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Ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 10:06 AM
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Unfounded, hysterical, ignorant, and offensive.
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Re: Ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 4:45 PM
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Yep. Yes you are.
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Re: Ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 4:45 PM
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Yep. Yes you are.
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Triggering in 3....2....1......
May 23, 2021, 10:09 AM
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People will lose their d a m minds.....
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CU Guru [1476]
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Hitler’s Ideas...
May 23, 2021, 12:43 PM
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Now widely acceptable.
Show me Ze Papers!
If only he would have had a mark to identify Jews before he killed them... oh I know, a Vaccine Passport! Great Idea Hitler.
Lefty Libtards Unite with idiotic ideas.
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Re: Triggering in 3....2....1......
May 23, 2021, 2:38 PM
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Sadly, you are absolutely right. I blocked a few people on the Clemson parent facebook page this weekend who were hysterical, belligerent and outright offensive because Clemson is giving their (adult) kids a choice of submitting proof of vaccine or continuing weekly testing.
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INB4 “But muh freedoms!”***
May 23, 2021, 10:18 AM
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“Muh body...muh choice”
May 23, 2021, 12:07 PM
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There. Is that one better?
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The whole point is protecting innocent lives.
May 23, 2021, 1:43 PM
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Abortion is murder. Period. Dressing it up as “a woman’s right to choose” is insane when her decision affects (kills) someone besides herself.
Not really sure why you find that issue relevant here.
I don’t think the vaccine should be forced on anyone, but if someone chooses not to get it then it’s not unreasonable that some businesses, organizations, and institutions will have a different set of rules. We’re talking about a virus that has killed ~3.5 million people over the last year and a half. It’s your right not to get the vaccine, but that doesn’t mean there might not be consequences for that decision.
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Re: The whole point is protecting innocent lives.
May 29, 2021, 2:10 PM
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A new man made virus was released on the world. No surprise In a lot of deaths, but the total number was grossly inflated by practically everyone that passed was due to covid, whether they had it or not for money and control.
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#### microchips!!!!!***
May 23, 2021, 10:19 AM
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Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 12:54 PM
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The Trump supporters with the replies to this post!
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 1:34 PM
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You can also spot the stupid liberals with Trump derangement syndrome and that don’t follow the science! People are still wearing a mask outdoors when there has never ever been even a shred of evidence that a mask is required outside. Now the CDC says you don’t even need one indoors if you have a vaccine. But the reality is even without the vaccine the numbers would still be going down because almost everyone has now been exposed to the virus and we’re getting herd immunity. The numbers were plummeting when very few people were vaccinated. I’ve been saying this since the early days of Covid. It only affects people that are old with a weak immune system or that have serious health issues. The only reason people freaked out over Covid is because of Donald Trump because they had no other way of getting him out of office.
In the 80s when I was at Clemson I had plenty of liberal friends, but they had common sense. Liberals today Democrats progressives are totally ####### brainwashed! You people are idiots. You don’t live in reality.. democrats and those on the left now openly support censorship and fascist ideas!
Brett Weinstein and plenty of other progressives are in horror over what’s going on on the left in America and tons of liberals are now voting Republican or moving from the left. Look at California. A totally failed state. Why? Liberals. Democrats. Progressive policies. Look at Texas and Florida. Excelling! And people are leaving New York and California to go to Texas and Florida.
You are doing exactly what every liberal every progressive every Democrat that hates conservatives hates the right is doing, which is trying to mock people trying to cancel people without even engaging in a debate or a conversation. You’re doing it because you know you can’t win those conversations. The facts and reality and science are not on the side of the left. So all you have is mocking and canceling and attacking people. Because you can’t win the arguments because you have nothing but irrational emotions!
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Link to the numbers plummeting before the vaccine?***
May 23, 2021, 1:44 PM
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 1:59 PM
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With apologies, if this is how you argue, you're making yourself awful easy to mock. This isn't a "debate", this is a rant. I'm not even a leftist - I'm an aggressively militant Libertertarian who mocks both sides equally, you should hear what I say about liberal dogma sometime - but this is...like, wow, man. It's a lot. But I'll parse it for a sec.
1) "Back in the 80's when I was at Clemson"...so you start with an "old man yells at cloud" argument. Ouch. Not a good beginning.
2) In the same sentence you close with "...censorship and fascist ideas". Dude. Fascists are far right wingers. Mussolini was a Fascist. Socialists can go bad, sure, but they don't turn into Fascists, they turn into Communists. Whole other animal, complete other side of political spectrum.
3) "Look at California, a totally failed state." Actually California's kind of a victim of its own success. The problem with California is they've made so much money nobody can afford to live there, the cost of living is just insane right now. Silicon Valley represents the greatest concentration of wealth that has ever existed, at any point in human history, like...ever. Nobody's quite sure how to manage that beast, and it's creating its own problems a lot of folks people are indeed running from, but it isn't "liberal policy." I just checked Zillow; a one-bedroom shoebox in LA can run you $899,900. In foreclosure. Like, who can afford this? No wonder it's being foreclosed on and people are headed for the hills!
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/13257-Venice-Blvd-Los-Angeles-CA-90066/20455174_zpid/
4)"You are doing what every liberal and progressive democrat that hates conservatives and hates the right..." okay, that's a straight emotional argument. I see nothing rational about any part of that diatribe.
As far as rational discourse goes, I'd have to give this pretty much a zero, sorry.
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 2:07 PM
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Wow! If that’s your take away I’m sorry you’re not very intelligent. Everything you just said is patently false and 100% wrong.
I’m on my phone and I’m on the road so not able to respond to each of your points at the moment but I will later today. And show you just how wrong you are on every point.
But very briefly, you’re an idiot if you think California is in decline because of their success. California’s in decline because a democratic policies. My God you call yourself a libertarian and you think California isn’t decline because of their success? Jesus you don’t know anything about the housing market or economics if that’s your viewpoint. Homelessness in California is because of their policies. Housing prices are because of their policies. My God man. You call yourself a libertarian? You are ignorant on California.
California is an example of what happens when you have nothing but Democrats running your state. California is a victim of stupid progressive policies. My God even progressives I know understand this.
And yes I will make a rant when people are stupid and saying stupid things not based on anything but their emotions in mill science and no logic which is exactly why this Covid nonsense yes. Yes Covid is real. But everything that has been done in response to it is based on trump the rangement syndrome and power and control by politicians!
Oh by the way. Fascism is not a right wing ideology. That is just ####### stupid. You have been brainwashed by the same people pushing that narrative for decades. Fascism is authoritarianism. For right extremism is chaos. The right extremism is anarchy. Fascism is an authoritarian form of government just like communism. It is not a far right ideology. It is a far left ideology. Mussolini was a ####### socialist. Mussolini didn’t agree with the socialists because they weren’t radical enough and extreme for him so he created fascism. Fascism was born of socialism. My God! You call yourself a libertarian and you don’t even understand this basic fact?!
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 2:10 PM
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Holy @#@%. Mussolini is a socialist now?
I give up.
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 3:11 PM
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It's not worth it. These are the same people who think Hitler was a socialist because he was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Or that Jingping is a communist because he's the GS of the Communist Party of China.
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 3:51 PM
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LOL. Hitler was a fake socialist. It made the harsh medicine go down easier. What he really was, was a Nietzschean who thought he himself was the epitome of the Aryan ubermann. They were all about the ultimate Alpha predator, the ultimate individual. See "The Triumph of the Will", and all that emphasis on Wolf and Eagle symbology. They thought it was the Master Race's duty to purge the world of subhumans. You know, like Jews. And Slavs. And kill them off, and take their land.
Socialists are about the greater good, and are all about trying to turn the world into an idyllic worker's paradise.
The two do not mix. Somehow those who confuse the two extremes because they share one word in common never cease to amaze me. It's like hey: you do realize: the Nazis were in fact the ones who coined the term, "the Big Lie" to begin with, right?
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 4:19 PM
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Oh I couldn't agree more. I'm just saying it's not worth arguing with these people about these things. They're just going to stick their fingers in their ears until Q tells them what their next thought should be.
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You ever seen
May 23, 2021, 2:42 PM
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a really knotted up ball of twine/string that was so messed up you couldn’t even find one end of it to even begin to unravel/untangle it? Well, that’s what it’s like for the rest of us who try to read your rambling diatribes.
You might even have a legitimate point/thought from time to time, but it gets lost in a cloud of incoherence. I’m hoping your job doesn’t involve communicating with others...because you appear really really bad at it.
Honest advice...just slow down and try to have a point.
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 2:17 PM
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California . . success?? LMFAO !!!
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 3:02 PM
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California represents the 5th largest economy in the world. So yeah, success is a good way to describe it. It became so desirable to live in California that living costs skyrocketed and NIMBYs made it impossible to rezone or relax land use regulations. It's not nearly as simple as "the Democrats destroyed CA".
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Re: Easy to spot
May 23, 2021, 8:57 PM
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COO COO!
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 10:21 AM
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It's all a bunch of bs. You can still get covid vaccinated or not. If I recall the masks are to keep you from spreading the virus to others. Now magically if you are vaccinated you no longer have to protect everyone else by wearing a mask. People actually believe this #### sandwich they are being fed. Any person with half a brain can see what has been going on the whole time. Unfortunately all the pussified liberals have infiltrated everything. Eff these masks and eff all these idiots and their vaccines. Didn't need a mask then and don't need one now. Will never wear a stupid mask or get this ridiculous joke of a vaccine to protect you against a boogey man that doesn't exist. The whole world is officially stupid.
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So in your world, if you can get COVID whether you’ve had the vaccine or not
May 23, 2021, 1:46 PM
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then the vaccine is therefore not effective?
And you’re also saying that this is a virus that doesn’t actually exist?
And everyone else is stupid?
Am I understanding you correctly?
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Re: So in your world, if you can get COVID whether you’ve had the vaccine or not
May 23, 2021, 3:53 PM
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What I'm saying is and please follow along, If you can still get covid even after you are vaccinated then why is it OK not to wear a mask now? You can still have covid and spread it. So if masks were being worn to prevent the spread of covid then why do you not have to wear them now just because you have been vaccinated? You know why? Because you have been manipulated into taking a vaccine that does nothing. Covid numbers started going down when states started re opening. Not because of this fake ### vaccine that you liberal morons worship because you are TOLD it works. Show me the proof.
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Clemson College be like....
May 23, 2021, 10:22 AM
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110%er [8099]
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Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Colleges should have a more safe than sorry attitude. If you've been jabbed, this requirement shouldn't bother you.
Go Tigers AND Stay Well Clemson nation!
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 10:32 AM
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The point is no one should be forced to take this ridiculous vaccine. Wearing a stupid Mask or getting a vaccine is not why the numbers are dropping. It's because more states are opening and people are getting out and people that have covid already have a much better resistance for catching it again. Again the world is officially gone stupid. The human race has been list.
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 10:32 AM
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Lost
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Welcome to FlatEarth.net
May 23, 2021, 12:31 PM
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The level of willful ignorance on this site is astounding. More and more it’s a bunch of people denouncing virologists and immunologists, probably while they’re on break from their job shoveling chicken feed.
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Re: Welcome to FlatEarth.net
May 23, 2021, 1:42 PM
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Go watch some of the videos on YouTube by Brett Weinstein. Him and his wife are PhD‘s in biology. Both Progressive Democrats that also know the science and they question why young people should be getting vaccinated. They question why someone that’s already had Covid should be vaccinated. They question the long term affects of these vaccinations. They’re not conservatives. They’re not idiots. They’re scientists Doing white scientist are supposed to do, which is the same as journalist, which is to be skeptical! The definition of journalism and science is skepticism! Not rolling over like a submissive dog. There’s no science behind any of this! People on the left to become brainwashed!
It’s funny, until Bill Clinton and Obama came along people on the left hated government. People on the left were anti-establishment. People on the left questioned everything. Now people on the left are ignorant submissive dogs. Anything the government says they bow down and say yes Master, yes Mistress, thank you may I have another!
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 4:00 PM
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Please show me the data that proves your theory. Another brainwashed idiot. It's more like welcome to libtard central. The virus was in decline before this vaccine was even used. Glad I don't have to live life with the smooth brains some of you have.
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 4:12 PM
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Wow. We catch Variant X this fall, you may get a crash course in virology up close.
It almost feels kind of inevitable, some ways. It happened in India and it is Black Death times over there, right now.
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This mandate doesn’t force anyone to be vaccinated
May 23, 2021, 1:08 PM
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How can it possibly be reasoned that the rate of infection is dropping due to restrictions being lessened? Back in 2020 when operation warp speed was developing these EXACT SAME vaccines, I didn’t hear quite as many people questioning their legitimacy. Odd.
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Re: This mandate doesn’t force anyone to be vaccinated
May 23, 2021, 1:48 PM
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What America are you living in? People were questioning the lockdowns a year ago. South Carolina had a very short lockdown. It only lasted a couple of months at best and never was draconian. The numbers have never been out of control here. Texas and Florida opened up completely without even mass in many ways months ago. Their numbers were going down before the vaccine. The numbers were dropping like a rock before the vaccine became widespread. Because people were already exposed and we were gaining heard immunity. People have been fighting this every step of the way because it was never based in science. Destroying our economy destroying peoples lives all of this has been nothing but an exercise in control of the people by the government and absolutely to get rid of Trump! Because you couldn’t get rid of Trump with Russia or any of the other lies and ########. And there are plenty of progressives out there saying this exact same thing. Progressives brave enough to stand up and say this is all ######## and the media and Democrats are ####### liars!
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Ah, there it is...
May 23, 2021, 3:09 PM
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it was all a plan just to get of Trump...if we assume that’s even remotely true, what an impressive plan it was! The whole world was in on it! Good job world!!
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Re: Nobody is forcing you to go to a football game, attendance
May 23, 2021, 1:45 PM
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You know that is a stupid ####### answer. That’s like saying nobody forces you to use the Internet or Google or other forms of big tech when everyone knows that’s virtually a requirement today. People like you say you don’t have to do anything you can just stay at home and stay in your house. What you’re affectively doing is taking people out of society by forcing all of these things and it’s total ######## and not supported by a shred of science.
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Your other handle owes me a year of Tigernet, when are you
May 23, 2021, 1:49 PM
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paying up Diamond Knowledge?
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 10:34 AM
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Haven't you heard, this is no longer a Clemson Sports site. The Cult of Trump and his Office of Propaganda (Fox News) have taken over. No common sense spoken here.
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 11:09 AM
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That you Hillary?
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Re: Not sure why anyone would call this ridiculous
May 23, 2021, 1:36 PM
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See that’s always the attitude of the left. It’s to protect you it’s to help you. It’s for your benefit. ########! It’s about ####### control! Never mind that it’s fascist. Never mind that it’s actually anti-science. Because young healthy people have no issue with Covid. This is stupid! It’s called control! It’s fascist!
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Next they’ll require proof of a...
May 23, 2021, 10:29 AM
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Tetanus shot.
I’VE HAD IT!!!
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I doubt there is anything that you haven't "had".
May 23, 2021, 10:33 AM
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^^RA'd for personal attack***
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Re: More unscientific spineless
May 23, 2021, 10:36 AM
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Leaderless nonsense.
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Re: More unscientific spineless
May 23, 2021, 10:36 AM
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Leaderless nonsense.
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Re: More unscientific spineless
May 23, 2021, 10:36 AM
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Leaderless nonsense.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab. Good
May 23, 2021, 10:48 AM
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As it should be. The other day I had an older lady who wont vaccinate act weird and demand to know if I was. I would have told her off but she is a friend of my mom.
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You know why she was so concerned, don’t you?
May 23, 2021, 1:53 PM
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Because there is a belief out there that people who have been vaccinated can shed viral proteins and “infect” those who haven’t been vaccinated, causing them to have a multitude of health issues.
You can’t make this stuff up.
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Those under 25
May 23, 2021, 10:50 AM
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Are virtually unaffected by Covid
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people upset on the interwebs!! What an anomaly!!***
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 11:07 AM
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Class action lawsuits on the way! I have a rising junior, no way is he going to take the jab.
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Bring it...
May 23, 2021, 11:19 AM
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Don’t sing it.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 1:33 PM
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Then send that person to cootville. Don't need the trouble maker at Clemson.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 1:51 PM
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Troublemaker? You mean someone logically following the science and questioning authority which is what America is all about is a troublemaker? #### you and the #### donkey you rode in on! I’m a Clemson graduate and I’m grossly offended by this ########! This is fascism!
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 3:27 PM
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“I think it’s a time in our culture where people love to pretend they’re offended.” ~ Matt Groening
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 2:10 PM
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Good luck. Clemson has been requiring vaccines for decades. This is no different just because somehow a pandemic became so politicized.
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What if TigerNet required an "R" ?
May 23, 2021, 11:20 AM
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We would be labeled at pay to play website.
May 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
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I doubt we could stand such scrutiny.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 11:27 AM
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Great policy, good timing.
Young people feel impervious to the virus. Fine, but they don't live in a bubble. They live and attend class and socialize with a cross-section of the public represented by all generations, those with co-mobidities, and those who refuse to get the vaccine. Young people get the vaccine to protect the rest of us - and, also, themselves.
Look, we've required immunizations of students for years: Measles, mumps, diphtheria, pertussis, meningitis, Hep B, tetanus, smallpox and polio (old school) and even chickenpox. What's different about this virus?
What you'd be more productive with in your paranoia is considering what protocols will be in place this coming August - December should there be another wave of virus. What will the protocols in the athletic department be if ONE student-athlete tests positive for the virus; if TEN students in the general population test positive; if other colleges/universities begin to have positive tests? Would we see restrictions on attendance at games and in-person classes? And consider CU students involved in student-teaching (local districts rules for faculty) and cooperative education with local and far-flung businesses.
Then there are revenue streams that might be reduced or eliminated in a 4th or 5th wave - support from foundations, governmental support via scholarships, direct grants from businesses - - -- don't think that their expectations weren't a part of the discussions leading to this policy.
We all want to think about big problems from a parochial perspective - how it impacts us. But step back and look at the forest instead of a single tree. You might find it instructive.
And, not everything is political.
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Have you considered the female students
May 23, 2021, 12:18 PM
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who may want to give birth someday?
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 12:54 PM
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There are 603,000 Americans dead, people.
It's like: lordy. What's it gonna take for people to go: you know, this just might be kind of serious, and stop listening to Tucker Carlson bloviate at them for one second? (Especially because his boss, Rupert Murdoch, was one of the first human beings on Planet Earth to get the vax, literally...way back on December 18, 2020.)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-murdoch/murdoch-receives-covid-19-vaccine-as-fox-news-host-casts-suspicion-on-campaign-idUSKBN28S2J7
Even those who are pushing this crap actually know better, and that's the really frustrating part, especially because those who are casting doubt are just doing so for ratings because they know this COVID-as-culture war B.S. sells. Watch what they do not what they actually say, if there's any doubt.
It's a bug. It. Does. Not. Care.
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Between this guy and Trump getting vaccinated...should
May 23, 2021, 1:26 PM
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remove all doubt right?
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I don’t need it.
May 23, 2021, 1:29 PM
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And it’s actually not even a vaccine like the ones most of us have had in the past.
This one is a manufactured upload to our DNA.
No thanks. I’ll take my chances on this virus.
(No I did not get this from Fox News. Sorry- I know that’s your “go-to” against anyone with whom you disagree)
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Re: I don’t need it.
May 23, 2021, 1:34 PM
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Then give your source...
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Re: I don’t need it.
May 23, 2021, 1:36 PM
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He won't, because he knows we'll kick the crap out of it in about two seconds flat.
He'd rather stick to his QAnon crap...and in his heart of hearts, even he knows it's bullsh!t.
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Re: Actual science.***
May 23, 2021, 2:12 PM
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Actual science tends to be sourced and peer reviewed, so where is yours?
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Vaccines such as this one, using mRNA, do not get into the DNA.
May 23, 2021, 2:05 PM
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It can’t alter your genes.
Your science knowledge is on par with your basketball knowledge.
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And your “vaccine” is on par with Brown-L.
May 23, 2021, 2:22 PM
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Look- if some of you who got the injection are now having regrets as more information is known, that is completely understandable.
But you don’t have to attack people who waited and are now choosing not to get the injection.
Decency. C’mon man!!!
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Re: And your “vaccine” is on par with Brown-L.
May 23, 2021, 2:31 PM
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I don't have any problems with vaccine hesitancy, honestly. I was leery of the thing myself. I'm not crazy about jabbing myself with something that's relatively new; we don't know the long-term effects yet. But every week that passes we're seeing a greater field of data, too, and we just aren't see negative stuff popping yet.
Whereas I can tell you about long COVID personally. It's BAD. It put me out of work for three months, and I'm still not 100%...and I'm not sure I ever really will be. Or if you don't trust my word, ask Xavier Thomas or Justin Foster, who also got righteously messed up by that.
There's unknown but dwindling risks attached to the vax, and worldwise, tens of millions have now been vaxed and we aren't yet seeing side effects beyond the known ones. Against that, you have to weigh the very real risks of COVID and long COVID...and the very real risk that it may spin off a more lethal variant like the B117 variant that's even killing people in their 30's and 40's now. One of those cranks loose here Stateside, it may be too late, you know?
My own concern is we're going to relax, think this thing is over...and then get clobbered this winter by a variant like that, and it's going to be the unvaxed folks dropping like flies like they are in India right now once we're wide open and totally exposed. And by then it'll be just too late. Persistent rumors are, the death counts in India could be 15 or 20 times worse than the Modi government are admitting; they could have a million or a million and a half dead already.
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The continued idiotic misinformation
May 23, 2021, 2:36 PM
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about the supposed dangers of the vaccine is probably the most overall embarrassing thing for America in my life time.
The few politicians who decided to start to politicize and popularize the fringe anti-vax community a few years ago should be held responsible once things like measles and polio start to come back.
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Re: The continued idiotic misinformation
May 23, 2021, 3:30 PM
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The list of embarrassing things about America in my lifetime is unfortunately large and only likely to get larger. I'm not sure if anti-vax has eclipsed Bush Jr's administration preying on a vulnerable nation and lying us into an illegal war that's still going on nearly 2 decades later, but it's pretty close.
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You know what else is idiotic?
May 23, 2021, 4:37 PM
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The huge number of people bragging about getting the injection and then saying something like, “Oh I’m fine...I was a little tired the second day but I’m good!”
As if the only possible danger was feeling sick right after the shot. How oblivious can so many people possibly be?
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 1:59 PM
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Very few people have died from Covid that were not over 70 or obese with other health issues. If Covid hit 50 years ago very few people would’ve died. People are dying for the same reason as heart disease and cancer. Diet. Lifestyle choices. Cove it is not even remotely a pandemic like smallpox or other viruses. Covid is a condemnation of our diet and lifestyle over the last 50 years with processed foods and a high carb diet pushed by the government and a food pyramid that is upside down.
Very very few healthy people die from Covid. Very few young people die from Covid. This is not a deadly virus. Not unless you have other factors. No one should be forced to get this vaccine just like no one is forced to get any other vaccine.
As far as the number of deaths, those are grossly over reported. We know for a fact verified fact that you could be dying of cancer and if you die and have Covid they will record your death as Covid not cancer! That is a fact! The number of deaths from Covid have been grossly over reported. Even the CDC says less than 10% of the people that die from Covid die from only Covid. Another CDC report says that 80% of the people that have died from Covid we’re also overweight and with or near diabetes.
Rather than fear mongering rather than using Covid for control the government should wake up and start talking about not eating carbohydrates. Not eating processed foods. Living a healthier diet and lifestyle. Which oh by the way would also dramatically decreased heart disease and cancer and medical cost in America. But that will never happen because our politicians today are owned by big corporations. By big food corporations. By big tech corporations.
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Nearly 3.5 million people have died from COVID.
May 23, 2021, 2:14 PM
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Even if HALF of these deaths were incorrectly attributed to COVID - a very bold assertion - you’re still dealing with millions of people dead from this virus. And that is not insignificant.
How many deaths out of these nearly 3.5 million do you think were accurate? And do you find that significant?
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Haven’t you heard?
May 23, 2021, 2:01 PM
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The virus isn’t real. It is a complete hoax, made up by a conglomerate of government and big business types from around the world, all in an effort to control the world’s population into submission using fake science and a vaccine that implants a microchip for tracking purposes as well as makes the recipient infertile. Population control at its finest, all because they felt threatened by Trump and his supporters.
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What does “jab” stand for?***
May 23, 2021, 12:16 PM
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With the recent ruling that employers can be sued over
May 23, 2021, 12:33 PM
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jab complications, these schools will be next !!!!!
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 12:43 PM
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My thoughts are all over the place on this. I do not mind giving vaccinated students certain freedoms to not wear their masks. That is currently where we are with stores. Those folks have taken the risk and should be rewarded. I do not like the vaccinated students being dropped from Mandatory Covid testing. We all know that vaccinated individuals can catch Covid. I am very concerned that we are encouraging our youth to take a vaccine under EUA. I was reading last night that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (mRNA) are being linked to heart problems in younger people.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 2:46 PM
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Google heart problems and mRNA vaccines. The news broke yesterday. The CDC is investigating for a possible link to heart problems in young people. This is not fake news unless you think the CDC has been infiltrated.
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Isn’t this a little Dangerous for Clemson legally?
May 23, 2021, 1:37 PM
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If these kids have bad side effects from a vaccine, couldn’t it hurt the School we love by requiring a vaccine still considered in the test phase.
It opens the door for multiple lawsuits when you get involved in the medical privacy of the students by requiring a vaccine without any long term tests.
I’m scared for Clemson, this isn’t a wise choice in my opinion long term.
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Re: Isn’t this a little Dangerous for Clemson legally?
May 23, 2021, 2:15 PM
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No. Clemson requires all kinds of vaccines just to attend, requiring COVID vaccination is not going to present an issue especially since they offer an alternative if someone isn't comfortable taking it (continuing to mask, social distance, and test routinely).
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Clemson isn’t requiring anyone get the vaccine
May 23, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Only proof of vaccine to avoid covid protocol...wearing a mask, weekly testing, quarantine. Sounds like students have a choice.
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Re: Isn’t this a little Dangerous for Clemson legally?
May 24, 2021, 9:15 AM
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It is actually legally dangerous for the University. I know in the working world, OSHA recently released a new ruling that stated that if employers required the vaccine, then they would be responsible for any nasty side effects that an employee experienced post vaccine. Thus, many employers are not requiring the vaccine, because they do not want to be held liable.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 3:02 PM
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Just going to make a few quick comments as a physician to clarify some of the misinformation on this thread. Not political. Simply based on scientific information and based on living on the front lines of this mess since March, 2020. Also on the front line with other physicians last fall trying to get our kids back in school, including visits to the state house. So hold the fear mongering comments, please.
1. COVID19 does affect young adults and kids. They can get very sick and they can end up in the hospital, both from the virus itself and from MISC (Multisystem Inflammatory Disorder associated with COVID19).
2. The virus definitely is harder on those with preexisting conditions but has proven fatal for many healthy middle aged adults.
3. Our schools did well this past year regarding COVID spread BECAUSE of the precautions that were put in place (masks, social distance etc). Most children who got COVID got it from a sick, adult household contact where there were no precautions in place. But studies have shown that children above 10, without precautions in place, spread the virus as easily as adults.
4. The vaccine is effective. Incredibly effective, in fact.
5. Over 240 million doses of vaccine have been given in the US. Over 1.6 billion doses worldwide. There is a safety monitoring system in place. The vaccine thus far has been shown to be extremely safe. There were pregnancies which occurred during and after the trials and no reason to suspect any impact of the vaccine on fertility.
6. the pause in the J&J vaccine should actually make people feel more comfortable. There was a question about safety. The vaccine distribution was halted while it was investigated. That's exactly the way the system should work.
7. The number of viral illnesses that have been truly controlled worldwide without a vaccine = zero.
So Clemson is not requiring anyone to get the vaccine. They are simply continuing to utilize the other strategies that have been shown to be effective for those who choose not to receive the vaccine.
Again, not political. Just reality from a front line view in South Carolina. Go Tigers!
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 23, 2021, 3:35 PM
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Thank you for your contribution, sir.
I cannot imagine how frustrating dealing with this morass must be for you on a near-daily basis. Whatever your private political affiliations, this is a bug...and then for whatever inexplicable reason, Trump decided to politicize it, so here we are, and the Red Team has decided it's their patriotic duty to fight the facts about the virus tooth and nail (even as the people feeding their viewers misinformation themselves vax up), so go figure. And you can show them that even old Rupert and Trump themselves are vaxxing up - and I guarantee you Tucker Carlson himself is vaxxed even if he won't admit it publicly because the man is no fool - and even then it does not matter.
Politics has always been dirty, but I've never seen it being used quite against the greater public interest quite the way it's being done right now. Nevermind COVID, when did we catch such a collective case of the stupids? This is a simple matter of public health, why are the basic facts in so much dispute here?
Grr. Teeth-grinding frustration. Truly. Let's just all take the jab, grab a beer, party for the first time in fifteen months, and watch some #$%^ing football this fall without fear of the Black Death Redux, why are we making this so bloody hard on ourselves here?
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That’s all good stuff. Thank you.
May 23, 2021, 3:55 PM
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It has been way over politicized. All sides...and plenty of it.
One would think we as human beings could rally around defeating an indiscriminate killer disease, but that has proven to be more difficult than the disease itself.
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Lame and cootish blame Jack***
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 24, 2021, 9:06 AM
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Going to lay a few things out right quick for all of you:
1.) I have had the ole kung flu, it was a week and a half of so of not being able to taste or smell, a little stuffy like a sinus infection. Nothing serious at all, would take it over the flu any day.
2.) I am 24 and in decent health, as is nearly every college age kid.
3.) What Clemson is attempting to do, is to subscribe to the massive pressure from the left to enact absolute and total control over an individual and remove their ability to self-govern their health.
4.) The vaccine is not FDA approved, it has been granted a temporary emergency use from the FDA. It has not been through proper testing and long-term effects related to the vaccine (which manipulates your RNA) have not been determined.
5.) It is quite silly for a healthy young person to be required to get a shot when their immune system is approximately 99% successful at completely and totally fighting off the virus by itself.
6.) There will always be outliers (a la Xavier Thomas and Justin Foster) who have more complications from a virus (this is common in many other illnesses as well, not unique to Covid), but these are the minority and not the mass majority.
7.) Despite what MSM attempts to pump into your brain 24/7 covid has been political from the day it entered the US. It has been weaponized to incite fear and panic, and allow the government to take control of the individuals citizens life like we have never seen before. Civil liberties have been stripped and the individual has been forced to subscribe to the force of the government on the grounds of "being a good neighbor".
8.) For those who care to argue point 7, let me ask you a simple question. If wearing a mask is to help out your fellow American, how many times a week to you stop to help someone who is stranded on the interstate? That is surely just as important as wearing a superficial piece of cloth on your face to protect others?
9.) If you still support lockdowns, masks, social distancing, or any restrictions related to Covid you are 100% my enemy. You are just one cog in the great machine that has worked tirelessly to destroy the economy and the soul of America in the past year.
10.) Before any of you old farts have the urge to argue, I advise you to scroll past. It utterly pains me that the older generation has turned so far to the left wing. Our forefathers would be rolling in their graves at the current state of our once great country.
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Heisman Winner [140480]
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Not everyone is cut out to be the first to go over the top...
May 24, 2021, 9:20 AM
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And there is nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 29, 2021, 2:57 PM
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Our forefathers would be astonished at your ignorance. Do you stop at red lights? Your parents had to vaccinate you for you to go to kindergarten, assuming you did get an education. We’re they libtards or fascists? By the way, you are not my enemy. I just feel sorry for you.
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Orange Blooded [2780]
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Re: Clemson to require proof of jab.
May 29, 2021, 2:57 PM
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Our forefathers would be astonished at your ignorance. Do you stop at red lights? Your parents had to vaccinate you for you to go to kindergarten, assuming you did get an education. We’re they libtards or fascists? By the way, you are not my enemy. I just feel sorry for you.
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Oculus Spirit [82042]
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I hate when people make poasts like this
May 24, 2021, 9:33 AM
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just to get fake internet points.
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Oculus Spirit [82042]
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