|
Replies: 35
| visibility 1
|
Hall of Famer [22228]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7085
Joined: 8/31/03
|
Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:02 PM
|
|
Just desperate for football season to start. (Tee that tater up! Just spot the ball and let's play!)
FSU opens this week against Duquesne. 1AA team. Should be a blowout (but Jax State last year should have been a blowout).
Duquesne is not as good as GT. FSU is not as good as Clemson. So, I'm just asking myself this question: Which game should have a larger margin of victory, FSU/Duquesne or Clemson/GT?
Hard to predict on blowouts. It depends on when the coach decides to call the hosses off. I'm thinking (expecting) both games to be in the 50-10 range, if not worse.
Most Nole fans I talk to are cautiously optimistic about us this year. General feeling seems to be, "If we don't win by 30+ then we're in trouble."
I'm thinking that Clemson will also win by 30+. What is the feeling of folks on this board about Clemson/GT. Complete the following sentence, "If we don't win by ______, we're in trouble."
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Medallion [64519]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88961
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Clemson should win comfortably...
Aug 23, 2022, 2:05 PM
|
|
but I don't focus much on the margin of victory since Dabo tends to start clearing the bench pretty early in games of this nature.
What I really want to see is significantly improved play by the QB, the WR's, and the OL. If we get that, the rest will take care of itself.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6878]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6107
Joined: 5/22/16
|
Re: Clemson should win comfortably...
Aug 23, 2022, 2:35 PM
|
|
I'm with you. I'm looking for a decisive win but prefer that we sand bag a little, keep the tricks till they are needed later in the season.
I also like to see the backups get plenty of opportunities. That keeps them and their moms happy plus gives them those important in game experiences.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13027]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14038
Joined: 11/2/15
|
Re: Clemson should win comfortably...
Aug 23, 2022, 8:36 PM
|
|
We tricked ‘em all last year by sand bagging the whole season.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10782]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6140
Joined: 1/28/04
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:07 PM
|
|
be careful with that tater reference.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [19594]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16895
Joined: 9/5/02
|
I truly believe
Aug 23, 2022, 2:10 PM
|
|
FSU will win by 31. 45 - 14.
Clemson will win by 21. 31 - 10.
So you win.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [9089]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5285
Joined: 9/3/03
|
3 TDs minimum should be the margin
Aug 23, 2022, 2:10 PM
|
|
If things go as planned, Dabo will put as many guys in as possible to give as much playing time as possible, so that might reduce the margin you'd see if the 1st string stayed in longer.
I'd be happy with a larger margin, but I'd also be happy with a W of any kind where we get as many guys possible as much experience as possible so we can be as deep as possible. If possible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10488]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7757
Joined: 12/5/15
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:14 PM
|
|
Honestly, Dabo just isn’t a run up the score guy, meaning, he’ll play lots of subs with a 3-4 TD lead. Clemson only gets giant blowouts if the subs dominate like the starters….and that is pretty rare. A 3 TD win with lots of subs would be good. Anything thing more would be very good. A 10 pt or less win with very little subbing would be bad. A loss would be extremely bad.
Duquesne?? If you can learn anything about your team by playing against Duquesne, then I suspect your team is in trouble.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7951]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 10416
Joined: 11/28/03
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 3:03 PM
|
|
Or when we play Bama in the natty and break their will to compete. Either option works
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22228]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7085
Joined: 8/31/03
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 3:19 PM
[ in reply to Re: Not trying to start an argument. ] |
|
The only thing we can learn about the team on the field would be bad. If we don't win by 30+ that is bad. If we win 70-0 that won't tell us anything good as far as how good we are.
But, the good things we can learn are mainly for the coaches and the sidelines. It's like a dress rehearsal.
1. Can we get the plays in (offense and defense) smoothly and on time?
2. Can the coaches communicate with each other with minimum confusion, and no chaos, on the sidelines.
3. Can we get substitutions in and out of the game without having to call timeouts or having guys rush onto the field as the ball is snapped? This would be part of the communication. Can the coaches communicate with each other and then with the players in a timely manner?
4. Do the coaches get the right players on the field for the play being run? Does the playcaller (Norvell) know which guys are on the field and call the plays that those guys execute best?
Those are things that might not show up on the scoreboard, but the coaches will certainly notice. I suspect there will be as much of a post game analysis on Sunday morning with coaches grading themselves as there will be grading the players. "How well were we prepared for the game and how can we improve?"
Should be similar situation for Dabo and staff vs. GT.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [93616]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 95392
Joined: 12/25/09
|
You've been around here long enough to know that...
Aug 23, 2022, 2:25 PM
|
|
Dabo is going to manufacture adversity by whatever means necessary. He wants his boys to turn into hard men who don't quit while the clock is running. He want them to 'KNOW,' that they can take the game from the other team.
FSU has much to prove, a once proud lot who demanded respect from all who track college football. Clemson has nothing to prove but each player has lots to prove. Without Dabo's on field philosophy preventing it the score would reflect a blowout.
FSU will win by a blowout and play deep into the bench. Clemson will appear to squeak by until GT's defense wears down about the early or mid third quarter and Clemson backups will do much damage but not as much as FSU's bench will do to Duquesne late in the game.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [25891]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 20598
Joined: 7/31/07
|
Re: You've been around here long enough to know that...
Aug 23, 2022, 2:31 PM
|
|
I thought Duquesne was a women' school so I will have to go with FSU .
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [56819]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 39634
Joined: 11/12/04
|
Re: You've been around here long enough to know that...
Aug 23, 2022, 2:50 PM
|
|
so was FSU.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22228]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7085
Joined: 8/31/03
|
Re: You've been around here long enough to know that...
Aug 23, 2022, 3:22 PM
[ in reply to You've been around here long enough to know that... ] |
|
Interesting word you used - adversity.
Norvell talks after every practice. 9 out of 10 days he used the word "adversity" at least once. "We try to put our guys into uncomfortable situations. We want them to experience adversity so we can see how they respond and they can learn how to respond. Football doesn't always go as expected. How do you respond when it doesn't? How do you deal with adversity?"
|
|
|
|
|
|
Head Coach [765]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 79
Joined: 8/20/00
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:45 PM
|
|
We're all hoping that Clemson's offense comes out crisp and puts things away early, but that's a wait and see. Hard to fathom FSU not winning in a blowout. Clemson also has an extra incentive to play more players early. 2 games in 5 days.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8520]
TigerPulse: 49%
Posts: 11484
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:45 PM
|
|
Any win is a good win.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6858]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 6499
Joined: 10/7/07
|
If FSU doesnt win by 60 they should just quit football***
Aug 23, 2022, 2:51 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10569]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7143
Joined: 11/11/02
|
They did
Aug 24, 2022, 10:00 AM
|
|
about 4 years ago
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6157]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5084
Joined: 8/30/17
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 2:54 PM
|
|
Until I see it two games in a row, this Clemson team is not a team that can score 50 points. Way too many wasted possessions, emphasis on the ground game which shortens the game, and still 3 big time hopefuls at WR being nursed along with injuries plus one already out for the year. 30 points is the ceiling against Tech unless the defense scores. Surely FSU is capable of blowing out lesser teams by now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3044]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3684
Joined: 11/15/09
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 4:20 PM
|
|
Let me put it this way. GA Tech would beat Duquesne worse than they beat Cumberland.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [15730]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17365
Joined: 2/1/99
|
FSU is way better vs their opponent than we are,
Aug 23, 2022, 3:13 PM
|
|
the game is in Atlanta, and FSU is hungry to prove some things. I’m not saying that they will “prove” it against this cupcake but I have no doubt that they will score as much as they can as long as it helps them develop a comfort level that the team is running on all cylinders.
Not only do I think we have a much better opponent (although I do expect us to win), but Dabo will focus more on depth if we are fortunate enough to get a good lead.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [36207]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 21509
Joined: 10/27/03
|
I Hate These Kind of Games Because They Are Truly No Win
Aug 23, 2022, 3:15 PM
|
|
If you win too big, it's bullying
If you lose you are dead
If you don't win big enough, you are suspect
and
You can get just as injured playing Eastaboga as Alabama
|
|
|
|
|
|
MVP [524]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 157
Joined: 11/23/17
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 4:47 PM
|
|
If the FSU margin of victory isn't greater, the Noles are going to suck again. Sorry, but you asked, lol! Actually, I'm hoping you guys are great again. The Clemson vs FSU rivalry can be special and the ACC needs that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1019]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 985
Joined: 9/27/20
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 5:00 PM
|
|
Bret...I'm just hoping y'all beat Lsu by 30 or more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18566]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14860
Joined: 12/11/04
|
FSU 57-6. Clemson 38-13.***
Aug 23, 2022, 5:02 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5572]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4059
Joined: 10/3/03
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 8:10 PM
|
|
I have no idea how our offense is going to perform, nobody does. As for the 'Noles, I know less about them than GT and know even less than that about Duquesne.
I think if either of us win by less than 3-4 touchdowns it'll be a downer for the fans. GT isn't good, so if we struggle like we did last year people are going to lose their minds. FSU needs to win convincingly and look like they're improving, if they can do that it's mission accomplished. If Clemson can't win by 3+ touchdowns we're in trouble.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6468]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10117
Joined: 11/2/03
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 23, 2022, 8:33 PM
|
|
Honestly. I hope they beat y'all. Then FSU will hire Deion Sanders and quickly return to a powerhouse.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18785]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12817
Joined: 11/30/95
|
Duquesne?
Aug 23, 2022, 8:39 PM
|
|
Never heard of her.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [65037]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33173
Joined: 12/3/03
|
Clemson SHOULD win comfortably. But, if there is one team
Aug 23, 2022, 8:44 PM
|
|
in Clemson history that causes strange things to sometimes happen when we play them, it is Georgia Tech. The good thing about this game is that, even though it is a "home" game for them, it AIN'T in Bobby Dodd.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [9323]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13044
Joined: 8/14/00
|
I hate when my wife starts off a sentence like that…***
Aug 23, 2022, 9:01 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [27180]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16026
Joined: 10/13/08
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 24, 2022, 9:52 AM
|
|
That doesn't apply here because if you actually followed Clemson, then you'd know Dabo doesn't run up the score on opponents. Dabo wants to play as many people as he can once we have an "acceptable" cushion.
It's more important for us to get meaningful reps and film for backups than it is to "win by XX points".
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-American [550]
TigerPulse: 99%
Posts: 426
Joined: 7/15/17
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 24, 2022, 10:06 AM
|
|
Totally with ridgeland!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18810]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5033
Joined: 7/15/13
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 24, 2022, 12:16 PM
|
|
You came on here respectfully. Thanks for that. I would assume that FSU will run up score if they can because your fanbase needs a positive vibe. A "we are back" moment. Dabo does tend to clear the benches early and get playing time. So I will predict that you will win 52-7 and we will be 37-10.
Am excited as well and hope you have a great season. We need you back to relevance. Florida is getting tougher for you guys with Miami and Florida maybe on an upswing. Time will tell.
Message was edited by: Clemsonohiotiger®
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [9648]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11403
Joined: 9/10/99
|
We barely escaped GT (AT home) last year with a win. If the
Aug 24, 2022, 12:24 PM
|
|
O is not much improved over last year - we're going to have exactly the same season where every game is a nail-biter.
So - we need to be up 3 TDs at halftime for me to think - "Hey, we MIGHT be back this year..."
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1754]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1621
Joined: 12/11/07
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 24, 2022, 12:26 PM
|
|
I didn't know Duquesne had a football team. I used to always pick them in March Madness just because of their unique name.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18810]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5033
Joined: 7/15/13
|
Re: Not trying to start an argument.
Aug 24, 2022, 4:44 PM
|
|
I knew they were a decent team in FCS. So you made me look this up. Began football in 1891 and two New Years day bowl wins, albeit almost a century ago.
Major bowl games
The Dukes had some success before NCAA college football's alignment into divisions. Duquesne won the 1934 Festival of Palms Bowl and 1937 Orange Bowl. The Dukes turned down invitations from the Cotton Bowl, Sun Bowl, and Olympic Bowl in 1939.
Season Date Head coach Bowl Opponent Result
1933 January 1, 1934 Elmer Layden Festival of Palms Bowl Miami (FL) W 33–7
1936 January 1, 1937 Clipper Smith Orange Bowl Mississippi State W 13–12
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 35
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
