Re: Clemson basketball coaches winning %

I don't get administrative support as being a negative here. I see this on here a lot, but I don't see it having played out that way in reality.

First off the Admin gave Brad a chance at the big leagues with the original hire. When it looked early on like he was a winner, they quickly bumped his salary up significantly (he started pretty much where Dabo did in terms of dollars) and ramped up the buyout amount (a both way deal). The Admin then stuck with him through a down spell, then when we turned the corner, upped both salary and buyout again.

The Admin invested $65 Million in upgrading Littlejohn and the team's practice and locker room facilities, which Brad asked for and helped deliver, then made sure Brad had a chance to capitalize on that.

Today, while Brad's salary may rank mid-way in the ACC, it's still very significant, and a highly attractive amount for many in the profession. Simply paying Brad more here makes zero sense considering what he delivers, but why wouldn't anyone expect the Admin to step up in salary for someone who was consistently winning? Brad's earlier tenure is proof that they will.

Another highly attractive aspect of our Admin for a coach today looking for this opportunity is the loyalty they've shown Brad over the years. I mean, look at the record, look at the success we have in other programs, look at how many programs in this profession cycle through coaches after just a few down years, and then tell me that giving a coach a 12-year leash isn't incredibly supportive.

Brad Brownell has been given everything a Power 5 program can give a coach and a program to help them achieve and thrive, including resources, pay, and certainly time. If Brad had parlayed that into better finishes, he would have been thusly rewarded for doing so. He hasn't, and here we are.

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Feb 14, 2022, 12:56 PM

Yeah, that was because you had ranked teams playing on from the get-go on Friday (2nd Night after the Shyatt Invitational 8/9 game). Now the decent teams don't take the court until the 3rd night - a Thursday, half of all the fan-bases have left if they even bothered. No who wants to see Florida State and Virginia Tech on a Thursday night? Worse, when seeds 1-4 play, they are playing teams that might be on their 3rd night.

So now, we actively mark the "lesser seeds" and bury them on Tuesdays/Wednesday/Thursday. The regional rivalries are gone. No body cared about "seeds" back then because alumni bases were keen on getting that rubber match win or spoiling a season. Now? when was the last time we cared about a 6/14 Miami/VT game?

I went as a kid in the 80s/90s. Took my father to the "last" ACC tourney in Greensboro. I remember getting the day off school on Friday, driving from Raleigh to Greenboro and then drive back/forth. In 2015 I had to basically take the whole week off from work to go. I mean, very few folks are going to take a week off of work to see the non-top 8 teams play. Maybe the only ones to have fun with are ther NC State folks (they are obnoxious but the most fun at the tourney)

Take 1996. That was a weak year but a very good tourney. We knocked off UNC (as a 6th seed) on Friday.GT, Maryland, Wake fought it out Saturday with a Wake (Tim Duncan) vs Gt (Stephon Marbury). Sure UNC/Duke/NCState could care less but still. Great Tourney. Everyone was 3 games from a championship. Now? 3 games will get you to Friday night if not a top team.

If they did away with all the byes, then it would be more fun. You would see the top teams facing the bottom seeds, a few upsets. Take 2019 (last normal tourney). Top seed UVA would have faced the bottom seed VT.A top/bottom matchup that matters. How about current standings. Last NC State vs Duke. No one want to see NC State vs GT right now...

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