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Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 12:23 PM
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TCI is reporting Jimmy Belanger from FSU as new pitching coach per inside sources.
The board and fan consensus was for Pawlowski coming back to Clemson, including myself, but it looks like that’s not gonna happen.
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Belanger would be a great hire***
Jun 21, 2022, 12:29 PM
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Re: Belanger would be a great hire***
Jun 21, 2022, 12:31 PM
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Everything i've read says the same...fantastic hire.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 12:33 PM
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He’s a great coach!
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Well, at least it isn't Pepicelli or See. So, hopefully,
Jun 21, 2022, 12:34 PM
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pitching will be better.
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Re: Well, at least it isn't Pepicelli or See. So, hopefully,
Jun 21, 2022, 12:36 PM
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Pawlowski may have said No but we will never know. Wonder how he got him from FSU ? More money or do they have a friendship over the years.
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Re: Well, at least it isn't Pepicelli or See. So, hopefully,
Jun 21, 2022, 12:46 PM
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Pawlowski may have said No but we will never know. Wonder how he got him from FSU ? More money or do they have a friendship over the years.
The HC was fired so there is no guarantee that the new HC would retain him.
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Re: Well, at least it isn't Pepicelli or See. So, hopefully,
Jun 21, 2022, 6:04 PM
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Pawlowski hasn't been relevant since he left CofC in 2008 and he definitely was not relevant to this coaching position search in 2022. You think players and recruits would be fired up to play for the guy who was fired from Auburn and Western Kentucky? The world has moved on...
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He wasn’t fired from Western Kentucky.
Jun 21, 2022, 7:17 PM
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Western Kentucky gave him a contract extension in January through the 2025 season. It looks like he left for personal reasons.
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Belanger would be a very good hire IMO...
Jun 21, 2022, 12:44 PM
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and a definite upgrade compared to the previous staff.
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People like this.***
Jun 21, 2022, 12:46 PM
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 12:48 PM
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this is classic Tnet. The OP stated people aren't gonna like this hire but seems almost everyone likes the hire. Then next year if pitching is improved some old man who sits at his computer with his shirt tucked in and white new balance shoes on his feet will call out the haters (who did not exist) for not liking the hire.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 12:58 PM
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I had forgotten the FSU coach had been fired. Sounds like we were there at the right time with an offer.
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I have already predicted a recruiting need…
Jun 21, 2022, 1:00 PM
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For next year that our coaches have not addressed. I’m ok with you making predictions about our pitching coach, but please do not step on my toes when it comes to football recruiting needs.
Thank you.
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Re: I have already predicted a recruiting need…
Jun 21, 2022, 1:48 PM
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Tell'm FM. We have some experts on this board that know everything as you well know.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 9:30 PM
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Dang I had a coupon for 30% off of some white NB.
I guess that's not cool.
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Good point and actually in retrospect
Jun 21, 2022, 2:19 PM
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I could’ve worded the OP better.
I used the phrase “aren’t going to like” when actually my thinking was more along the lines of people will be “disappointed “, which I think is much more accurate.
I like the hire, I think it’s a great hire, but I am a little disappointed. I was at Clemson in the 80s and Pawlowski would’ve helped bring more of that Clemson tradition back and a little more of the connection to the Bill Wilhelm era.
I think everyone that loves Clemson baseball will see this as a great hire because his résumé is impressive. But I think, especially for some of us older guys, Pawlowski coming home was based more on nostalgia and a little bit selfish from a sentimental perspective.
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Re: Good point and actually in retrospect
Jun 21, 2022, 3:59 PM
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I could’ve worded the OP better.
I used the phrase “aren’t going to like” when actually my thinking was more along the lines of people will be “disappointed “, which I think is much more accurate.
I like the hire, I think it’s a great hire, but I am a little disappointed. I was at Clemson in the 80s and Pawlowski would’ve helped bring more of that Clemson tradition back and a little more of the connection to the Bill Wilhelm era.
I think everyone that loves Clemson baseball will see this as a great hire because his résumé is impressive. But I think, especially for some of us older guys, Pawlowski coming home was based more on nostalgia and a little bit selfish from a sentimental perspective.
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I am not seeing any disappointed fans in this thread so maybe you should try again or delete this thread and start over?
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Re: Good point and actually in retrospect
Jun 21, 2022, 4:57 PM
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When a read something you’ve typed I hear a nagging, know it all, 6-yr old girl voice with missing front teeth telling me what the teacher told them they shouldn’t do at school that day.
Weird.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 1:47 PM
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TCI is reporting Jimmy Belanger from FSU as new pitching coach per inside sources.
The board and fan consensus was for Pawlowski coming back to Clemson, including myself, but it looks like that’s not gonna happen.
Actually, I thought it was a pretty good hire, and definitely an improvement over See (MHO). And in answer to another post, I'm sure Belanger was available, since FSU head coach had just been fired. Furthermore, based on what I read, it seemed like Pawlowski left his previous job for personal reasons, & may not have been ready for a return to coaching (but I may have read/interpreted that wrong).
Most of what I've read about Bakich has impressed me that he is a good fit for Clemson. But then, I originally thought that Monte was going to be good hire. However, Monte never impressed me with his leadership, even in the early years when he was at least making the regionals--but, we lost all those, even when we were hosting! Seems like people should be giving Bakich the benefit of the doubt, but some TNet posters seem to want to criticize anything just to post something.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 1:50 PM
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FSU did not using the beeper deals on their pitchers did they?
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Bakich looks like a great hire.
Jun 21, 2022, 2:48 PM
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And if this is his choice for pitching coach it also looks like a great hire. His résumé is impressive.
Right after we fired Monte, FSU fired Mike Martin Jr.. It looked like a strategic move to outflank Clemson in the Link Jarrett sweepstakes. It was a shrewd move because there’s no way Jarrett would pick Clemson over Florida State even if we offered more money.
Based on things I have read, however, Graham Neff went to Jack and asked his opinion on replacing Monte and Jack said go get Bakich. If that is true, and there’s no reason to think it’s not since what I read looked like a quote from Neff, then Bakich was Neff’s target from the beginning, not Link Jarrett, which was the conventional narrative.
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Speaking of Pawlowski
Jun 21, 2022, 4:10 PM
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I did notice an article from earlier in the year where he signed a contract extension through the 2025 season. It is interesting that he would sign a contract extension then resign a few months later.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 2:01 PM
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If true, that is a GREAT hire.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 2:06 PM
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Great hire...don't know why the T-Netters were so obsessed with Pawloski as Pitching Coach in the first place.
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Well it’s a matter of perspective.
Jun 21, 2022, 2:23 PM
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How old are you? Did you graduate from Clemson? If so when?
If you were at Clemson and loved baseball during the Bill Wilhelm years then you would understand why some older guys would like to see Pawlowski back in Clemson.
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Re: Well it’s a matter of perspective.
Jun 21, 2022, 3:29 PM
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Calm down McMurphy. You got access to a computer in the hospital?
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What is your problem?
Jun 21, 2022, 3:56 PM
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No one is not calm.
I was asking him how old he was because age has everything to do with nostalgia and perspective, which is why me and others were hoping Pawlowski would get the job.
You, however, falsely assumed that the question was asked out of anger or disgust and in an accusatory way implying that they are young and stupid.
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I’m 68, graduated in 1976, …
Jun 21, 2022, 5:16 PM
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and probably watched more Clemson baseball from the scrubby hill in front of Fike than any student in the entire school while I was there. I have followed and supported the baseball team ever since. After quietly suffering and watching the debacle that was Clemson baseball the last 5 or so years (embarrassing lack of fundamentals, clueless head coach, etc.), I’ve long since left behind any sentimental thoughts about alma maters, etc. in our coaching searches ( maybe except for USC). I want the best coaches and quality people to represent us with proven results, regardless of emotion or alma mater.
I think this Bakich hire is a grand slam and I fully trust who he selects as a pitching coach until proven otherwise.
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I think Bakich is a great hire as well
Jun 21, 2022, 7:24 PM
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And I think Belanger looks like a great pitching coach. I have openly supported both of these things, assuming this is the move made for a pitching coach.
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Re: Well it’s a matter of perspective.
Jun 21, 2022, 5:58 PM
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You titled your post "People aren't going to like this"...Says who? The 3 people on T-Net that said they wanted Pawloski to get the job? No one who knows anything ever acknowledged Pawlowski as a real candidate for this job. This message board isn't the real world.
I'm fired up for Bakich, Schnabel, and Belanger to turn this program around!
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Clearly some people just like being ########!
Jun 21, 2022, 7:26 PM
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Are you a #### all the time?
Yes that is what I put in the OP and there are going to be people that don’t like it. That’s their prerogative. The fact that most of the people commenting like the higher doesn’t mean there won’t be plenty of people that do not. People like you are what makes this forum disappointing at times.
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Oh good, a professional making about a million dollars a year is making the decision
Jun 21, 2022, 2:36 PM
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And not Tigernet posters.
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I get the sarcasm but
Jun 21, 2022, 3:45 PM
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It’s a silly statement.
Using your logic, anyone not involved in the decision making process should sit down and shut up and not have an opinion.
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Re: I get the sarcasm but
Jun 21, 2022, 5:02 PM
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They can have an opinion, but it’s no different that taking investing advice from a Tnetter vs a 30 trader at a top investment firm. Leave the decision making to the people with the track record and salary to back their titles.
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That’s what I wrote.
Jun 21, 2022, 7:27 PM
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You wrote exactly what I wrote. So what’s your point?
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 3:06 PM
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A few days ago, someone from TNet had mentioned that they thought Belanger would be a good hire.
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Interesting. Do you remember who it was?
Jun 21, 2022, 4:04 PM
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That might be someone to keep an eye on in the future because they could be someone on the inside that stops by and drops subtle hints. Because it’s not like most college baseball fans know who the pitching coach is at Florida State. That would have to be an extremely hard-core college baseball fan. That seems like too much of a coincidence to not be someone that didn’t have a little bit of inside information.
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Wow! I actually remember that thread.
Jun 22, 2022, 11:00 AM
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I did not remember the OP but I remember that thread because of the comment made by Biggie About the Furman pitchers going to Notre Dame.
Looks like the guy that made the OP has been around for a while, but I don’t really recognize his username. Interesting.
Thanks!
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This is what a backfire post looks like.***
Jun 21, 2022, 4:05 PM
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In what way?
Jun 21, 2022, 4:17 PM
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You clearly did not interpret my intentions correctly.
And clearly didn’t read the thread and my other comments where I said I think it’s a great hire and I don’t have a problem with it and that I don’t really think people are going to be angry but some people might be disappointed because of nostalgia and sentimentality.
I don’t regret the post at all. And my opinion and my thoughts have not changed. I simply could’ve worded it a little differently. But nothing has changed as far as my thoughts and feelings are concerned and I’m the one that made the OP.
This thread is actually closer to a real conversation. This is how conversations evolve in real life. Online forums rarely mirror real life conversations.
Human emotions are complex. You can like something and be disappointing at the same time. I can like the hire but be a little disappointed that it wasn’t Pawlowski at the same time.
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Re: In what way?
Jun 21, 2022, 4:40 PM
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How does one determine intentions on a message board? We look at the words you wrote which should reflect your point. So far you have missed the mark twice...
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I haven’t missed the mark at all.
Jun 21, 2022, 7:15 PM
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I said some people aren’t gonna like this. And that is true. There are people that aren’t gonna like this hire.
Personally I hoped that Paw would get the job but I think Belanger is a great hire. Therefore, I’m mildly disappointed but I don’t dislike it.
The fact that most people commenting like the hire does not mean that there aren’t plenty of people that do not because there will be people that will not like that Pawlowski was not hired.
So no I have not missed the mark.
And people comment every day especially on this forum making assumptions and false interpretations. In fact most of the people I see commenting look like idiots because it’s clear they didn’t read the actual OP or if they did they have the reading comprehension skills of a child.
So you missed the mark twice.
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Re: I haven’t missed the mark at all.
Jun 21, 2022, 9:23 PM
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My tiger friend, just an observation. You would have been better off ignoring any comment re. your OP.
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I know and I tell myself that all the time.
Jun 22, 2022, 2:09 AM
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It’s a handful of usual suspects that I should ignore but against my better judgment often do not.
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Re: I know and I tell myself that all the time.
Jun 22, 2022, 7:45 AM
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Still looking for those people who don’t like the hire
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Not looking at all because they will make themselves known
Jun 22, 2022, 10:12 AM
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When Pawlowski doesn’t get the job. Because they have been on here for a week talking about want him to come back to Clemson.
Once again you’re showing your complete lack of reading comprehension. I clearly never stated everyone would not like the hire but certainly some people will not like it and will not be shy about it.
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 21, 2022, 4:33 PM
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I like it…
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Coaches, in general . . .
Jun 22, 2022, 2:28 AM
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draw from their past. People they have worked with in the past, that they had a connection with . . . that bond lasts. Same thing here.
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Yes. It looks like Belanger was on Bakich’s staff at Maryland
Jun 22, 2022, 3:35 AM
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I saw an article written when he got hired at Florida state and it didn’t go into a lot of detail with dates and times, but he was at Maryland a while back. He was at Maryland, somewhere else, then Florida State. So it looks like he was probably at Maryland with Bakich.
Based on what he did at Florida State comparing the numbers before he got there with the numbers during his tenure it was a vast improvement.
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Belanger would be a very good hire!***
Jun 22, 2022, 9:02 AM
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Re: Clemson baseball, people aren’t gonna like this
Jun 22, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Consensus. I think not
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Who doesn't like it?
Jun 22, 2022, 10:26 AM
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FSU ERA national rank this year... 27
Last year...7th
Clemson 75th this year and 128th last year.
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