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Chevy Tahoe lulz
Sep 21, 2015, 2:29 PM
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So Greenr and Wife are without kids and off work on Friday. We bout to head to the outlets to do some Fall shopping for the kids when we realize they aren't open yet. Well, we have been discussing purchasing a newer vehicle with an accessible thrid row. The Pilot has a third row, but to be honest, it is inaccessible for a 4 year old space cadet (aka my daughter) unless you have 10-15 minutes to get in and out of the car. Greenr thinks to himself, there is a Chevy dealership near here, lets go look at cars. The Tahoe fits all our needs and cannot be THAT expensive. Greenr pulls up to Burns Chevrolet and takes a look at the first Tahoe. I did not pay attention to the trim level, etc...but the sticker price was a cool $68,000. MOTHERFUKKER THAT FUKKING CAR IS $68,000. HOW IN THE HAYULL DO YOU PEOPLE AFFORD THESE THINGS? I CANNOT IMAGINE HAVING A $70K VEHICLE THAT IS ALWAYS INTHE SHOP.
I could not locate one that had a 4 in the first digit of the price, so we drove off without talking to anyone. It looked to me that the cheapest Tahoe was $50k there. I looked up used ones and there was an affordable 2011 Tahoe, but it has 190k miles. Welp, guess the Pilot stays in my posession.
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^^^Buys new cars....lulz
Sep 21, 2015, 2:31 PM
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Even if I cure cancer and end up with Pawless Money, I'd still be letting some other sucker take the initial depreciation on my car purchases.
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lulz at thinking Greenr has ever bought a new car
Sep 21, 2015, 2:35 PM
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nope
and not just because the initial sticker shock
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Lot o points [155517]
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So what's the sticker on a new one got to go with anything?
Sep 21, 2015, 2:40 PM
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(I'm not arguing that MSRP on em is nuts, but keep in mind, credit is cheap right now....people aren't buying them because they can afford them, they're buying them because they can make the paymenmt on an 84 month loan on one)
I'd go for one like this.....I've seen similar year/condition, with lower miles for sub $30k....you just have to be looking and be ready to jump when you see one.
http://shoals.craigslist.org/ctd/5212489842.html
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need to sell mine first. Any idea of the best place to sell
Sep 21, 2015, 2:42 PM
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without getting physically raped ITB?
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Lot o points [155517]
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It ain't quite what it used to be, but Autotrader is still a
Sep 21, 2015, 2:43 PM
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good place to connect with serious buyers, without the serial killer factor that comes with Craigslist. (For the record, I still use CL to sell my cars....I just have the prospective buyer meet me in the parking lot of the local police station).
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Depends on what you've got, but if you're looking
Sep 21, 2015, 2:44 PM
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to unload it, Carmax does give fair pricing in my experience. I am a huge advocate of not using craigslist, too sketchy, and in my experience, most of the people do not intend to buy your vehicle.
But even still, that price on the Tahoe Obed linked seems insane to me.
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Yeah, I agree on that Tahoe. I've heard nothing but good
Sep 21, 2015, 2:45 PM
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about Carmax if you want to give your car away.
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Oculus Spirit [79377]
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I thought that too with my Jeep
Sep 21, 2015, 2:48 PM
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After 3 months, I ended up selling it for what they had offered me.
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LOL.....I just remembered your Jeep selling stories.....
Sep 21, 2015, 2:50 PM
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Paid a guy $50 for not showing up to buy your car.....lulz.
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Luckily, I never ended up sending it and he went away
Sep 21, 2015, 2:53 PM
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Last time I ever go through that B.S.
I'll trade and not deal with the hassle. Of course, judging from new truck pricing, I hope mine last forever.
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Gotta disagree with my boy LB1 here........
Sep 21, 2015, 2:48 PM
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CarMax isn't buying your car based on giving you a fair value and then planning on trading it for a little more.
They're buying it based on a worst case scenario assumption----that your car doesn't sell in 90 days and they have to auction it. With that in mind, they are giving you a price that is BELOW what it would go for at auction.....that's generally rock bottom.
There's a rule with Craigslist....if you post your car there, and it doesn't sell within 10 days, your price is too high. It's about the most accurate litmus test there is right now for car values.
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Maybe that is what they're doing, but in three instances
Sep 21, 2015, 2:52 PM
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I've seen vehicles end up being sold for at or around what Carmax had offered. There is a convenience factor with it, as well.
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Lot o points [155517]
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CarMax is like having a 3/10 fugly booty call on speed dial.
Sep 21, 2015, 2:54 PM
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You can go out to a bar and look for a 9/10....realistically you could probably expect to land a 6/10.
If you have a bad night though and go home with another 3/10, it doesn't mean that booty call 3/10 is now pretty.
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There's a certain value associated with being able to
Sep 21, 2015, 2:57 PM
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rudely kick the 3/10 out of your house though, and not have her stick around for the day.
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carmax will offer jackshit for your car, MUCH better off wit
Sep 21, 2015, 3:06 PM
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a pvt sale (craigslist, auto trader, ebay, whatever).
I've taken 4-5 cars to carmax over the years and lollered at their offer and told 'em fvckoff and left.
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Oculus Spirit [79377]
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well yeah, obviously you're going to get more with a private
Sep 21, 2015, 3:10 PM
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Sale. You also get the PITA associated with a private sale too.
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I say if you have a fleet of cars, private sale is okay.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:20 PM
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I say if you have a fair exterior, needing attention engine, good interior 2004 Malibu and need rid of it for the down payment on the next car, then take it to Carmax. Should I have asked Toyota to come up more than $100 from the Carmax offer? Probably. I doubt I was going to get much more than the $2100 for it.
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When I traded my Silva-raydo last year
Sep 21, 2015, 3:22 PM
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I went to Carmax, a Toyota dealer and a Chevy dealer. They Chevy dealer actually wanted to give me less than Carmax did. For that one at least, they were dead on with what it was worth.
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Oculus Spirit [75668]
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I imagine they were looking at that as
Sep 21, 2015, 3:32 PM
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a bit of a loss leader. Assuming it was a new model and something they could use to get people on the lot.
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Probably. It wouldnl;t have been around long.
Sep 21, 2015, 4:10 PM
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It was a clean truck with about 40K miles on it, and some options like a sunroof and rear dvd that were kind of unique.
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Did you have them telegraph the bill of sale?***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:04 PM
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I didnt understand how that worked...
Sep 21, 2015, 3:06 PM
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just used Pony Express; its a little slower but I didnt have to worry about fraud.
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Just oulaws and Mexican banditos.***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:26 PM
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^^^Enjoyed the Saturn "no haggle" buying experience***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:43 PM
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I've never owned a Saturn or any GM product
Sep 21, 2015, 3:59 PM
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I've only owned Fords and BMWs
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but "no haggle" pricing is good......***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:59 PM
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Unless you bought a Z8 in 2003.
Sep 21, 2015, 4:44 PM
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Original price: $128k. 2015 price: $350k.
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Re: Chevy Tahoe lulz
Sep 21, 2015, 2:37 PM
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Agree completely. Its almost impossible for find a crew cab new pickup for under $45k as well. Some of the #### pickups are in the mid $50k's. What the heck is this world coming to? So I checked out the smaller trucks like a Toyota Tacoma and heck, they are pushing $37k. I guess this ole boy will just drive my Ram till it desinigrates then buy a 5+ year old pickup for $25 one day. Sure I know you can get trucks cheaper but they are basically contractor trucks with a better radio. Arg!
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Cheap gas probably isn't helping***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:04 PM
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Oculus Spirit [80928]
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You can get a new Sierra/Silverado loaded for around 40K.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:28 PM
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Sticker will say $50k+, but they have lot fulls of them and want them gone.
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How did you like having Friday without the kids?
Sep 21, 2015, 2:39 PM
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What do you plan on naming the new babby when your wife shids it out in June?
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Was awesome and we will name it Jamal after his father
Sep 21, 2015, 2:43 PM
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cause if she gets pregnant, it aint mine.
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Oculus Spirit [75668]
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I had those same feels when I was car shopping.
Sep 21, 2015, 2:41 PM
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They are a status symbol for a reason.
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Check out the Grand Cherokees, same thing
Sep 21, 2015, 2:42 PM
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Gf has got to get a new ride, as her 5 year old, low mileage Jetta is falling apart by the hour.
The most affordable new style Grand Cherokee we've been able to find was a 2011, with 95k miles, 6 cylinder, 2WD, hardly any options for ~$19k. How about nope. Used Honda CRV? Not getting in anything with decent mileage for under $20k. It's hard to believe, but the Jeeps, Chevy's, and even Honda's are now in the same ballpark as BMW's and Mercedes.
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I'm thinking it would be cheaper to add bucket seats to
Sep 21, 2015, 2:44 PM
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Honda or just tie one kid to the roof.
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Oculus Spirit [79377]
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There's an awesome mid 80's dually Suburban for
Sep 21, 2015, 2:47 PM
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sale in Clemson right now. Needs a paint job, but is supposedly mechanically sound. You ought to be able to fit your whole crew in that. Only gets 1.7 mpg though.
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How do you think they afford Jadeveon Clowney billboards
Sep 21, 2015, 2:47 PM
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on I77?
That would pretty well seal the deal on NOT doing business with Burns Chevrolet. All that billboard says to me is "YOU MUST REALLY BE AS STUPID AS ME IF YOU'RE BUYING A VEHICLE FROM BURNS!".
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Oculus Spirit [75668]
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I ended up getting the Malibu there.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:09 PM
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Went to Clover, went to York, didn't like any of their used inventory. I really had to get something new as my old car was leaking oil and running hot, so I did I can afford X payment plan and I have nothing to put down. Anyway, the idiot car dealer runs my credit and comes out trying to sell me a Corvette. That is my only experience with them, but the billboards will assure I don't go back.
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Just get a Sienna and be done with it. Swiss Army Knife
Sep 21, 2015, 2:47 PM
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of vehicles. Comfortable and reliable.
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Nope, not getting a van, ever.
Sep 21, 2015, 2:48 PM
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that's what mrs fluff said
Sep 21, 2015, 4:47 PM
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and now she is loving her chrylser Town and country.
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Oculus Spirit [80928]
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I saw a mini-van a few years back
Sep 21, 2015, 5:26 PM
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that had "sport" as a sub model on the side of it.
I laughed. There has never, ever been a mini van that should be classified as a "sport".
The dude driving had that 1000 yard stair that 'Nam vets used to get.
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Or a Honda Odyssey.
Sep 21, 2015, 2:50 PM
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Say what you will about those mini vans, but it's a safe, comfortable, reliable way to travel with kids. I had an Isuzu Oasis, the sister of the Odyssey, for a while when Joonyer was young and I would be more than happy driving one of them right now.
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Also...
Sep 21, 2015, 3:06 PM
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We traded that van with 235k on it. In all that time, I had ONE repair bill for a minor oil leak. Everything else done to it was routine maintenance.
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My 13 year old Chrysler is the same way.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:09 PM
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Although it's required a bit more maintenance than my 18 year old FrankenSaturn.
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I agree, minivans are far superior to SUVs.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:07 PM
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Better gas mileage and you can fit more in them. Those side doors are the bomb.
Those of us with big penoirs know this while those with small penoirs continue to buy SUVs.
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except if you ever need to tow anything substantial
Sep 21, 2015, 3:09 PM
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Or ever need four wheel drive, or ever would like to see past the other minivan in front of you on the interstate, or would like respect from other drivers
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This is why I have a 4x4 truck AND a car.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:16 PM
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Except I haven't found the car yet to replace the car I had when I had a truck and a car.
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Did they make 4X4 Ranchero's or El Caminos?
Sep 21, 2015, 3:33 PM
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Really does seem like the best of both worlds.
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Pretty sure they did not.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:36 PM
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But Subaru Brat and later, the Subaru Baja.
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Or course, who needs a truck bed or anything like that.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:41 PM
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Just yesterday I saw a Prius with a kayak inside the car. It was a Perception, but I don't think as big as mine.
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The Mrs. has moved a pair of kayaks in her Honda Fit
Sep 21, 2015, 3:54 PM
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on more than one occasion.
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I looked at Yukons the other day while I was at the GMC lot
Sep 21, 2015, 3:08 PM
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$71K for a Yukon SLT.
I thoyght the same thing--who is buying this? It's not like its some superior car that will lats forever. If you get 5-7 years and 150K miles out of it, you hit the GM car lottery.
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from talking to you guys, my impression was get 100k out of
Sep 21, 2015, 3:14 PM
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it and bail out. So assuming that, I figured they would be at least semi-affordable. fuckk that noise.
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I'm not sure why anyone would buy something new in the first
Sep 21, 2015, 3:17 PM
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place. Unless you crap money.
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Our thought process was look at new, subtract 10-15k from
Sep 21, 2015, 3:19 PM
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sticker and go hunting for a used one. It was on a whim. 15k off a 50k vehicle is still SO MUCH MORE than I want to pay.
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That, and they won't come off that much.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:20 PM
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They tell you get f'ed. They're selling too many of them right now.
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We were at the VW dealership Saturday getting
Sep 21, 2015, 3:21 PM
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POS Jetta looked at...They had a little Tiguan there, telling me that thing cost $45k brand new...Looked it up, and it did. 3 years and $50k miles later, they offered it to us for the low low price of $18k. Imagine taking that hit.
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If that Jetta is a diesel, its value probably just went up
Sep 21, 2015, 3:26 PM
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Noone will want a new one after they have to put all the emissions crap on them to actually beat the emissions tests (that they said they were passing, but were really lying about). It'll get half the gas mileage.
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It's value actually will probably go down.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:30 PM
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For the greenie hippies (75% of the target market), driving one of those just because the biggest mark of shame since the Hummer H2.
The rest of us (who enjoy cars) won't want one when VW applies a recall to all of them that involves basically detuning the engine to power levels not seen since the Cadillac Cimarron diesel.
The only ones left that anyone will want are those serviced by Indy dealers, without the recall done. If you even drive by a VW dealer they'll slap an ECU "upgrade" on it so fast it won't be funny.
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Oculus Spirit [80928]
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I dunno. I know folks who buy them and commute
Sep 21, 2015, 4:14 PM
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long distances with them. I don;t think they care too much about how much NOx its putting out, as much as getting 45 MPG out of it.
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It's not a diesel, but I think it'd probably still be a POS
Sep 21, 2015, 3:32 PM
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if it were. If there is one manufacturer that I think has worse quality than GM, it's VW.
They are about to get raped by the government though. Emission regulation is out of control, they're probably ultimately causing more pollution. I have a new EPA mandated fuel vent that quite literally spits gasoline back into the water/ground.
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Oculus Spirit [80928]
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Does your boat have the fuel tank carbon canister or
Sep 21, 2015, 4:15 PM
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catalytic converters on it? I had herd they started doing that on some I/O's and inboards. I know they are doing the carbon fuel canister on every new boat now.
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Oculus Spirit [79377]
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Yep, has catalytic converters on it
Sep 21, 2015, 4:21 PM
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First year they started doing it, apparently. My dad has the same motor in his boat, but it's a 1999 carb version...Mine's slightly better on gas, but not as much as you'd think considering the 14 year difference. Of course, I guess I am turning two props, but I don't know how much of a difference that makes.
For every 6 gallons I try to put in it while it's in the water, probably a gallon goes directly into the environment because of that fill neck.
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Oculus Spirit [80928]
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The fuel injection on those is well worth the
Sep 21, 2015, 4:23 PM
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$500 or $1000 that it costs when you buy it.
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That was the first year they had it when he bought his
Sep 21, 2015, 4:30 PM
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Didn't want to risk it. It went well over a thousand hours with no issues until the block cracked last winter, so it did well. Now, after someone local rebuilt it who I won't name, it's got all sorts of little issues.
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I bought my Wrangler new
Sep 21, 2015, 3:35 PM
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because used ones aren't much cheaper - they don't lose value, and you can't hardly find a used one that is what you really want (so many options/aftermarket stuff).
My logic was that I might as well buy new to get the exact features I wanted, plus get all the warranties and such that comes with a new one.
You almost never see dealer ads for Jeep Wranglers - why is that?
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Don't need to. They sell regardless of marketing.***
Sep 21, 2015, 3:38 PM
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You could get a couple year old one for the mid 30's
Sep 21, 2015, 3:18 PM
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But since gas got cheap, the ones for sale have a ton of miles on them. I've had a 2007+ (new body style) Tahoe and Yukon and got them reasonable - used. They were Ok, but they were both plagued with trsnamission/driveline noises.
I'm still battling with GMC over my lemon law POS sierra. I wanted out of it completely, but they've countered. We'll see what happens.
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Pricing on them started getting crazy in the early 2000's
Sep 21, 2015, 3:26 PM
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and really took off with the intro of the last generation, in 2006 or so. My theory is that people think Escalades are status symbols, but they can't afford them. People also think that Escalades are just fancy Tahoes/Yukons, and they're right. Thus you've had the trickle-down status symbol effect.
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My family has had Suburban's since 1995.
Sep 21, 2015, 3:30 PM
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We're clearly high class citizens. My brother still drives the last one we have that is a 99 with 235k miles on it.
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Yep, my Dad too......on his 5th one or so now and got the
Sep 21, 2015, 3:33 PM
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first in the early 90's.
That's where my theory comes from.....I've seen the MSRP on his Suburbans go up massively as the public perception of these changed from utilitarian tow vehicles/kid haulers to bling bling.
His loaded 1999 one was out the door for less than $40k. Last one in 2011 was almost $70.
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The 95 was the last vehicle my dad ever bought new
Sep 21, 2015, 3:40 PM
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we had a 98 and 99 at the same time until the 98 died at some ungodly amount of miles. The 99 is still kicking. He loves the way the new ones look, but would never spend that kind of money on one. He's currently trying to find a truck for around 5k to replace the 94 dodge ram farm truck. He wants a 4 door though and doesn't understand that what he wants does not exist at the price he wants to pay. My 04 is the newest car any of us drive.
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I don't think I have ever seen a honky in an
Sep 21, 2015, 4:07 PM
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Escalade. I do recall an Jeopardy episode where dude tried to put spanish accents on the word, Trebek looked like he was in a real world SNL skit.
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you can get an X5 with 3rd row
Sep 21, 2015, 3:26 PM
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hth
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Sweet, I'm b!tching about a 50k car and you suggest a
Sep 22, 2015, 8:14 AM
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more expensive one. This entire conversation seems to have gone over your head
OR
You want to brag about having BMWs
COOL STORY BRO, NOBODY GIVES A.F.
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I'm suggesting you get something decent for your money
Sep 22, 2015, 8:35 AM
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if you want to spend $60+ on a jeep or a chevy more power to you. You can get an x5 for near that price range.
now go fry some donuts
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Re: I'm suggesting you get something decent for your money
Sep 22, 2015, 8:38 AM
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Maybe this gif is old, but this needs mo' points.***
Sep 22, 2015, 8:45 AM
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Do you even Carmax Bro?
Sep 21, 2015, 3:28 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79377]
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LOL at that 09. Somebody gonna get raped
Sep 21, 2015, 3:35 PM
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Don't think I could pay $40k for something with over 40k miles, either.
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