|
Replies: 20
| visibility 1
|
All-TigerNet [10399]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11530
Joined: 6/29/01
|
Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 2:45 PM
|
|
the age of 40 or 50 past 2025? Because with what I envision in place by then I can't.
|
|
|
|
 |
Orange Blooded [3634]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 7351
Joined: 11/11/01
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 2:48 PM
|
|
Maybe, but it would likely require some radical changes which aren’t likely to be made.
I think a lot of people will check out if you have a few teams at the top de facto buying a semipro team while the rest are non-competitive.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6858]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 6499
Joined: 10/7/07
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 8:56 PM
|
|
And more concerning, so too might Dabo. You can tell he is frustrated and very displeased with the current state of cfb, and its only going to get worse.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8518]
TigerPulse: 49%
Posts: 11478
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 2:55 PM
|
|
Of course there will be fans. Good competitive games will always bring fans and as far as enjoyment, a game between 6-5 teams is just as good as 9-2 teams.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2860]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4308
Joined: 8/30/08
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 10:35 PM
|
|
I am a diehard CFB and Tiger fan, and I am not happy about the direction of the sport. I expect at the current rate fans will stop watching. There are many more like me.
Just hoping for a miracle and that the presidents step in to create rules that create somewhat of a level playing field.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22381]
TigerPulse: 99%
Posts: 31278
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Absolutely!***
Dec 13, 2021, 2:58 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6095]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13241
Joined: 11/10/00
|
less younger people care anyway about all sports
Dec 13, 2021, 3:00 PM
|
|
at least that is my anecdotal observation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6692]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 6139
Joined: 10/6/21
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:01 PM
|
|
Definitely.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3882]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 3322
Joined: 7/31/16
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:04 PM
|
|
the age of 40 or 50 past 2025? Because with what I envision in place by then I can't.
I honestly had more interest in the Dallas Cowboys this year than I did Clemson. I actually took my son to Washington this past weekend for the game against the Deadskins.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Standout [342]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 453
Joined: 1/10/21
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 10:00 PM
|
|
you sound like me. I used to be a huge Cowboys fan but since Parcels left no more. Live in Maryland and also call them deadskins. Huge college football fan up to this year. I don't like the transfer portal and hate NIL. Kids are getting a free education with room and board. College football is going to die with this. No more development program of talent. Gonna also hurt building a team concept. All teams need to be on equal fields, maybe give each football student $600 a month that way they have some money since they can't really work with classes and practice. Make players stay with original committed school for three years. Then if they want to transfer allow them to and allow them two more years in college to play.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1846]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 1547
Joined: 10/3/19
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:07 PM
|
|
No one has a crystal ball, but logical projections can be made. You could envision the CF product suffering over time, akin to college basketball. You'll end up with wholesale roster changes annually, dark money driving recruiting and young men that could care less which college they attend (purely transactional relationship). At least with the NFL, you get the absolute best players in the world, salary cap that economically levels the playing field across all 32 teams and regulated free agency. If you are marketable outside of your athletic efforts, good on ya. Do all the State Farm commercials you wish.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [24743]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14760
Joined: 10/12/08
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:08 PM
|
|
Those fans you name are the life blood of college FB. They buy the season tickets, contribute to the University, watch the games on TV, etc. If you lose them, you lose the money. Ticket sales alone do not pay the bills. You will lose some, but most will adjust as they have in the past. Most will accept that nothing ever remains the same in sports. It's always evolving. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for worse. Fans take the good with the bad. That's life.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2860]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4308
Joined: 8/30/08
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 10:39 PM
|
|
Disagree. I am a CFB junky and if I am willing to walk away due to the direction you better believe many others are as well.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [833]
TigerPulse: 92%
Posts: 1060
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:14 PM
|
|
You do know most NFL fans are that age?
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1650]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 1909
Joined: 5/11/03
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 3:29 PM
|
|
I can envision a class-action lawsuit or two and even some secession from the NCAA by then. More programs will look to break away and become independent once the product is tarnished and fans become disenfranchised. Their bottom line margins will be affected and they will be left with little to no choice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16416]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14902
Joined: 1/26/99
|
I am 53 now, and will be a Clemson fan as long as I live
Dec 13, 2021, 3:47 PM
|
|
I may not like some of the changes coming, and I may not be as much of a fan of the sport in general, but I will watch my team and whatever other teams are relevant to our progress.
I can't say I am a big fan of college baseball, college volleyball, or even college soccer, but I am a fan of Clemson's teams in those sports. I can't really say I am a fan of the NFL, but I pull for my Tampa Bay Bucs, buy gear, and watch them every chance I get.
But I hear you, there is no loyalty in the world anymore. I guess I am just an oldtimer, and loyalty means something to me, even if it is not reciprocated. Maybe what I am thinking is that there are very few fans currently under 40 who will be lifelong fans at 50 and beyond.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2750]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 5044
Joined: 10/18/06
|
That is an excellent question . . .
Dec 13, 2021, 3:57 PM
|
|
and while I don't know that I envision it tanking in the window you suggest (2025ish) I think the dynamic you speak of is real, and a certain subset of fans will fall away, but gradually, and probably farther out. And good . . . if the trajectory continues, then it OUGHT to wane. I was born and bred in SC, had lots of family connections to Clemson even before attending there, and grew up captivated on Saturday afternoons by all things Clemson football, and the passionate fandom and following continued into adulthood. These tradition and memories and connections are a rich element of my childhood and time spent with my own family now.
But like most such things, that enjoyment depends on the integrity of various elements that, to the extent they fall away, anyone who isn't absolutely worshipping it would be affected by. What if, say 15-20 years from now, Clemson still has all the trappings . . the Hill, the Paw, the orange uniforms, Tiger Rag, etc. but the sport and it's culture has rotted through even more. Would we enjoy that with the same level of comfort we had in, say 1985 or 1995 or 2005. Of course not.
If the culture of immediate self-fulfillment above all else, along with the progressive woke elements that are seeping into everything, has pervaded the sport even more (say, imagine that in 10 years, they institute a "Diversity" game designation . . . or the Homecoming theme is "Multiculturalism in Tigertown," or we have a "LGBT Appreciation" weekend, and/or imagine the portal business becomes an absolute revolving door such that there is virtually no core of four-year continuity by "student"-athletes on a roster . . . at what point will we pine more for the 6-5 or 8-4 season where at least there was a genuine tie to our institution and culture, as opposed to a manufactured, money-owned sporting culture that is semi-pro at best and NFL farm team at worst. The tea leaves are not unclear. It's just a matter of time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Conference [417]
TigerPulse: 54%
Posts: 814
Joined: 9/19/21
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 8:45 PM
|
|
I dont think they care about you at all. They chose billionaires and mega donors over you. The way they created NIL gives it to each individual state to regulate and pass the laws. They just introduced a lot more money in a sport they already have a 1.3 billion revenue.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8885]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9760
Joined: 4/27/13
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 9:09 PM
|
|
next thing that needs to be removed is the limit on the number of years that you can play
maybe even allow former NFL players, as long as they enroll
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rock Defender [53]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 35
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 10:06 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8885]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9760
Joined: 4/27/13
|
Re: Can you see college football retaining lifelong fans over
Dec 13, 2021, 10:32 PM
|
|
if you can increase the number of available players, you can cut the cost per unit
new players every year!
new players every week!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 20
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
