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Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 7:47 AM
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I’m on instagram and other social media and I simply cannot believe the amount of moaning I’m hearing about Clemson and “their refs”. These idiots have clearly watched/listened to ESPN announcers on the one no-call on the roughing the QB and decided Clemson only is winning because of refs.
It’s infuriating considering the ridiculous amount of missed calls for Clemson. Holding against our defensive line on #### near every passing play. The “roughing” play itself would’ve been blown up before the QB got to the sideline if their o-line hadn’t held. No call on Adam Randall getting PIed in the end zone. The first drive of the game our guy got a facemask. If you go back and watch that play he got a facemask because he was literally being TACKLED by their o lineman and reached for whatever he could grab on the way down.
I’m not denying I could see that “missed” roughing call going either way. I thought the play was fine since he was trying to break up a pass success and screw up the delivery but he was a bit late to it. But to act like Clemson is getting all these calls in their direction is down right laughable.
Bunch of clowns
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I tolerate all that.
Oct 25, 2022, 7:49 AM
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I've done my share of whining about Bama getting all the calls in SEC matchups. "Protecting the brand, was my cry.
I didn't see us getting more than a fair share of the calls.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:00 AM
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Its just the narrative. The Syracuse QB was clearly flopping if you watch the side view of Trotter with his hands on him going out of bounds. The QB was just trying to draw the flag with an acting job. Looked like Lebron on the basketball court lol.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:14 AM
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All I will say is I would put the number of screams about the refs by TigerNet folk against any site in the nation. There is supposed to be a sack on every pass play or we were being held. Every catch is supposed to be made or there was PI. Just as in basketball, a call could be made on every play but it has never worked like that and never will because the game would cease to exist. From time to time every coach yells at the refs but they know there is nothing that can be done except plant a seed for the next call.
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Tell 'em u7c coot. No one knows losing better than you.
Oct 25, 2022, 8:49 AM
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irony ?
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:53 AM
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I dont disagree about Tigernet getting heated about refs. I myself can get pretty pissed off during games particularly watching holding calls missed this year. But I think my frustration is that it’s supposed “neutral” sources complaining about Clemson getting referee help. I’m not talking Syracuse boards/fans. Football instagram/Facebook pages that must not like Clemson I guess
Attributing the hard work of our players winning to the refs is annoying
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:20 AM
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Every team in college football has fans that feel their team gets screwed by the refs. What it boils down too really is just sour grapes from the losing team. Every team gets some bad call and some no-calls. The truth is, if a bad call or no-call can affect the outcome of a game then your team is not as good as you think they are. Take care of business on the field so the refs can't win or lose the game
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:49 AM
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I don’t disagree. But I should clarify these aren’t just Syracuse sour grapes. I’m talking about supposed neutral “football” pages bashing and complaining the refs. Just irritating to see that narrative pushed. See image below.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:58 AM
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Which neutral sites are you referencing? Facebook? There may be "neutral" Facebook pages but the comments contained in them certainly won't be neutral.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:01 AM
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Posts by Saturdaydownsouth for example. AllCFB page has reposted many too. I posted an example image in one of my comments above. I’ll link it to this one too.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:05 AM
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Is SDS really neutral? They cover SEC teams. The folks there can't be thinking too unfairly of Clemson. They have them in their top 4.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:09 AM
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AllCFB shared the same post as well. AllCFB is one of instagram’s top CFB pages, and supposedly neutral to conferences. You can clearly see my point. Large influencing pages are pushing the same narrative.
I think you’d be frustrated if you saw Georgias football players accomplishments being attributed to refs. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t like seeing the players work devalued like that
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:39 AM
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You have to consider what you're thinking of as neutral. For instance, let's say Georgia plays Kentucky in a close game and fans on Tigernet are making comments about the game. One could say that Clemson fans are neutral since we aren't fans of either team, but odds are most on here would be pulling for Kentucky to pull the upset and would be more likely to discuss calls that went against Kentucky in that game.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 10:14 AM
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To be honest, this is probably the truth of it. We were the media darlings early in our run but by now we have become one of the teams people want to see fall. So maybe neutral isn’t an accurate statement. Odd to me that I seem to notice the Clemson hate on social media much more than say Ohio state or bama though. Could be because I’m a Clemson fan and notice. I think the close games are feeding into the hate too. Many see us as overrated. No respect for syracuse/wake wins because of the name.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 12:06 PM
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I think you're right on with a little more talk about Clemson due to the close games and the lack of respect for our opponents. To be honest, we'd probably be saying the same if Ohio State or another highly ranked team were winning multiple close and often ugly looking games. We'd probably also be downplaying Ohio State wins over ranked teams if say Northwestern was in the place of Wake, Indiana were in place of Syracuse, and Michigan State were in place of NC State.
On the other hand, if it were FSU ranked at #10 instead of Wake, Miami in the Syracuse spot, and a ranked ND team instead of NC State then we'd probably be getting more credit for our ranked wins. It's not fair, but it's normal and we're all guilty of downplaying non-traditional powers even if we try not to.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 8:47 AM
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I just went into the office of the owner of the company I work for. He's a bama fan and he's in on Tuesday and we start the day with CFB talk.
Discussing the Cuse game...He brought up the no call on the Cuse QB and said it could have gone either way...then it transitioned to the officiating of the bama/UT game...he then started talking about the same officiating crew this past week missed an obvious targeting call (he forgot which teams were playing but he was following the officiating crew)...
I went back to work.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:35 AM
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It appears to me, if you watch closely, on the play at the sideline with the Syracuse QB that the players' feet clashed which caused the QB to fall. I think this is why a penalty was not called. There was not a big push.
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I think whining about the refs has become common
Oct 25, 2022, 9:38 AM
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in many fan bases.
I read numerous posts here after every game claiming that the refs are missing obvious holding on the opposing team.
Other calls are dissected down to tiniest detail (typically ones that go against us as part of the grand anti-Clemson conspiracy).
We remember the calls that hurt us, and tend to forget the ones that help us.
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Re: I think whining about the refs has become common
Oct 25, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Whining about refs and Gary Danielson. Every Saturday following the 3:30 game, SEC fans of one team or another are railing about how much Danielson likes the other team and hates theirs.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Is the non-call on the sideline hit on the Syracuse QB the only call people are complaining about? I don't think that play was the same as the hit on CK, but I can understand wanting that call if you're a Syracuse fan. However, if that's the only call they really have to complain about then it's pretty laughable to be complaining about the refs costing you a game.
I'd be more upset at my player for putting himself in the position of getting the late hit against CK to keep that drive alive and then at the other player for an even dumber and more obvious penalty later on the same drive. I'd then be upset at my offense for failing to put any points on the board at all during the 2nd half or my defense for giving up 266 rushing yards to the 2 Clemson running backs.
I could understand the chatter if there were multiple bad calls throughout the game against Syracuse, but when your only real compliant is not getting a flag for a late hit then you have larger reasons for not winning.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 9:50 AM
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To add to my point, we outgained Syracuse 450 to 291. It's not as if they outplayed us and just got robbed by bad calls which outweighed their efforts. We made mistake after mistake and they weren't able to capitalize enough off of those mistakes.
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Re: Can not believe all the ref talk…
Oct 25, 2022, 10:13 PM
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Just quit facebook and all their products. It will improve your quality of life in every conceivable way.
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