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Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 9:39 AM
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I saw where one of the Dawg fans was saying we'll breeze through the ACC schedule. If the conference has a dominant team, they are supposed to breeze through the season. For the same reason as Clemson, I expect Alabama to once again breeze through the mighty SUC schedule undefeated. That's just the way it is when one team is so much better than the rest.
So let's not make Clemson's schedule sound so easy when Alabama has the exact same situation.
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But, but, but--
May 24, 2021, 9:42 AM
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it's the SEC and you know that just means more! 
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Re: But, but, but--
May 24, 2021, 3:40 PM
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It’s a meat grinder!!!!
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You're saying they're the same, though?
May 24, 2021, 9:53 AM
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But they're not the same?
I mean, even if you could argue the rankings are completely illegitimate and both Alabama & Clemson were playing same-quality competition, they've got 6 bye-week opponents with an extra week to prepare?
I hear what you're saying on elite teams, but it's simply not accurate to suggest it's the same situation, either, & I think we take it for granted by nature because there hasn't been enough legitimate elite-level competition from other conferences like the PAC12.
Rule #1, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN EASY SCHEDULE, but UGA is our only ranked opponent. TAMU & LSU alone, I just don't see a legitimate comparison for either of those teams on our schedule regardless of how bad Alabama could end up beating them, know what I mean? Suggesting it doesn't matter as long as you come out with a "W" takes away everything that makes 60 minutes of football on any given Saturday so amazing!
Remember, we've been a dominant team when the ACC was competitive, but we didn't breeze through the season outright. That Louisville matchup with Lamar Jackson alone was legendary because it was so competitive, rather than in spite of it. The Notre Dame game last year was the most-watched game in ACC history & for good reason rather than it shouldn't have been just because we're elite, know what I mean?
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Re: You're saying they're the same, though?
May 24, 2021, 11:01 AM
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I didn't say the leagues were the same. The SUC is better overall that the ACC in football. There is no denying that fact. I'm simply saying that Alabama will most probably breeze through the SEC schedule just like Clemson will, because they are just so much better year in and year out that the other SEC teams. They may get upset by a team this year (same as Clemson), but that is unexpected.
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I disagree
May 24, 2021, 11:12 AM
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I think we are vastly better than our ACC opponents this year by comparison, but that's personal opinion, for sure.
Alabama may be elite, but playing against legitimate competition that has an extra week to prepare makes it exceptionally difficult to swallow the suggestion that it's the same.
Remember, we've been elite before but lost opportunities because we played competitive teams, rather than in spite of it. The same thing has happened to Alabama in spite of them being elite, too, albeit more often & with vastly more consequential outcomes.
I also don't think Alabama will breeze through their schedule outright; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a loss or two, particularly early such as against Ole Miss.
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Re: I disagree
May 24, 2021, 11:15 AM
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That's why you play the games... the rest is just talk.
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Re: I disagree
May 24, 2021, 11:23 AM
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I guess that's the point; we can win all the games and be left out and all we'd have left is "just talk." Saying it's the same challenge is just talk, too, it just seems misguided is all.
Alabama doesn't have that problem. Whether they should or not is personal but incidental regardless. Make no mistake, we'd have the same opportunities with their schedule, and the problem of any elite team controlling its own destiny is a fixable problem.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 10:18 AM
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"Exact same situation" ....... Not really if you look at the most recent 24/7 Team Talent Composition. The composite of the two conferences skews heavily to the SECs favor.
1 Georgia 990.52
2 Alabama 985.86
3 Clemson 915.57
4 LSU 873.66
5 Florida 871.05
6 Texas A&M 861.96
7 Auburn 844.98
8 Tennessee 842.87
9 Florida State 832.59
10 Miami 826.81
11 South Carolina 771.64
12 North Carolina 740.19
13 Mississippi State 737.19
14 Arkansas 719.15
15 Kentucky 717.38
16 Ole Miss 702.95
17 NC State 680.31
18 Georgia Tech 678.35
19 Virginia Tech 670.70
20 Pittsburgh 653.05
21 Missouri 619.03
22 Louisville 619.02
23 Duke 615.72
24 Vanderbilt 606.21
25 Boston College 602.69
26 Virginia 588.54
27 Syracuse 578.28
28 Wake Forest 577.30
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How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 10:36 AM
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worked out for UGA being on top?
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Re: How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 10:50 AM
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Haven't been able to get past Alabama and Saban unfortunately. UGA was one play away from overcoming in 2017 but blew a coverage to allow an OT 41-yd TD from Tua to DeVonta Smith.
The majority of opposing fanbases always jump on the "UGA does less with more" mantra, but the more football savvy among them realize UGA has been plays away from flipping that narrative upside down.
A relevant example of such for Tiger fans it the term "Clemsoning". That was a thing ..... until it wasn't.
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Re: How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 1:13 PM
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Still, isn’t being “plays away” doing less, with more? Losers lose.
That’s Tommy Bowden kind of talk. Embarrassing.
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Re: How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 1:47 PM
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"Clemsoning" was a thing until it wasn't. UGA will turn it around in the same way sooner rather than later.
It took a great team plus an outstanding QB in D. Watson and T Law for Clemson to break through. For UGA, JT Daniels may or may not be that guy, but all signs point to yes for Brock Vandagriff to be that breakthrough for the Dawgs.
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Re: How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 4:02 PM
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We got rid of Bowden.
Kirby’s gonna Kirby.
Enjoy.
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Re: How has that "24/7 Team Talent Composition"...
May 24, 2021, 2:29 PM
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That’s the conundrum with you dawg fans. So arrogant every single year until you’ve Kirbied. Maybe keep your slobbery mouths shut until you actually do something of significance? Dog food for thought.
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Something of significance
May 24, 2021, 4:11 PM
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"Something of significance" isn't enough for many of us, though.
Frankly the only thing that it seems will change people's minds of whether or not UGA is a legitimate, competitive threat is if they win a national title again. The highest-scoring Rose Bowl and single-play championship misses, for example, don't seem to be enough to count as "significant."
I just hope we don't lose to 'em. That's all. Make no mistake, they're not a pushover team just because they haven't won the national title trophy; we've lost to plenty of teams that didn't win one recently, too.
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Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 10:49 AM
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average teams at best over the last few years, Tennessee especially.
Clemson gave Alabama their worst beating in years at the 2019 CFP, 44-16.
Clemson has beaten Auburn four games in a row from 2011-2017. We have beaten SCAR six games in a row. Clemson is 2-2 against Bama in the CFP, with each team winning two CFP titles during those four years.
I see FSU and Miami making program improvements. Pitt, Va Tech, and UVA reside in states with a lot of D1 recruits.
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 10:59 AM
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"Clemson has beaten Auburn four games in a row from 2011-2017"
And UGA has beaten Clemson 6 out of the last 7 matchups and leads the series 42-18-4. So what? None of that matters for the upcoming season.
"We have beaten SCAR six games in a row."
I mean, shouldn't that be the expectation rather than something to brag about?
"Clemson gave Alabama their worst beating in years at the 2019 CFP, 44-16." and "Clemson is 2-2 against Bama in the CFP, with each team winning two CFP titles during those four years."
Congrats. Clemson has been one of a very few teams that have gotten one or two over on Saban over the last decade.
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 1:21 PM
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I like how Georgia always expects to beat South Carolina. At home. Your current win streak of 1 is quite impressive.
Georgia hasn’t beaten South Carolina six times in a row since before their last National Championship. That’s a LONG time.
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 1:43 PM
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And none of that will make a bit of difference in week one of the 2021 season now will it?
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 1:47 PM
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I like how Georgia always expects to beat South Carolina. At home. Your current win streak of 1 is quite impressive.
Georgia hasn’t beaten South Carolina six times in a row since before their last National Championship. That’s a LONG time.
We haven't lost 5 in a row to them ever. That's a pretty long time too.
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 2:20 PM
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Lol!!!
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Re: Auburn and Tennessee should not be in the top 15. Very
May 24, 2021, 1:59 PM
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average teams at best over the last few years, Tennessee especially.
Clemson has beaten Auburn four games in a row from 2011-2017.
I see FSU and Miami making program improvements. Pitt, Va Tech, and UVA reside in states with a lot of D1 recruits.
UGA has also beaten Aub 4 in a row, and 9 of 11 since 2011. And for the most part, we beat them more impressively than you did in the same years.
And can you expand on the improvements FSU and Miami are making? Save for Jimbo's flash-in-the-pan in 2013, both of those programs have been complete jokes, and I don't see any radical changes for either
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 10:53 AM
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You're free to make Clemson's schedule sound any way you want but it is demonstrably easier than Alabama's. I don't know why some of you guys seem to take that as a slight to Clemson.
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Bama definitely resides in the SEC division that is
May 24, 2021, 11:00 AM
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demonstrably tougher than the ACC.
And, Bama has a rival that is an actual rival, in Auburn. Clemson's "rival" actually hurts our strength of schedule every year. It is one of the reasons I wish we could get back to playing your Dawgs every year. Your guys had the better of us for a long time, until Saint Danniford came along and made it an actual rivalry. Unlike against USuk, winning against the Dawgs means Clemson has once again accomplished something worthwhile. But, someday USuk will beat us again, just as someday the GT Nerds will beat your Dawgs again. It is just the aggravating nature of rivalries.
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Re: Bama definitely resides in the SEC division that is
May 24, 2021, 11:03 AM
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I'd be in favor of UGA dropping the gnats and Clemson dropping the coots for an annual UGA vs. Clemson rivalry. Would be some great matchups.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 11:05 AM
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Again, I didn't say the leagues were the same. The SUC is better overall than the ACC in football. There is no denying that fact. I'm simply saying that Alabama will most probably breeze through the SEC schedule just like Clemson will, because they are just so much better year in and year out that the other SEC teams. They may get upset by a team this year (same as Clemson), but that is unexpected.
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Still doesn't seem the same
May 24, 2021, 11:19 AM
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Problem is a one-loss Alabama is vastly more likely to be out, though; we're more likely to have fewer one-loss or undefeated teams in the league that COULD push us out, especially in our division.
By contrast, we've seen exactly that happen against Alabama, and with more consequence than the playoff (including the Heisman).
We can choose to see it as an advantage or disadvantage to have a more favorable league outright, but ignoring elite opponents like Alabama missing the playoff in spite of being elite seems like an enormous outlier to me, know what I mean?
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 1:45 PM
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Alabama plays 4 teams who were ranked in the top 10 at some point last season, plus a 5th who was #1 the year before.
Clemson plays 1.
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FIFY...
May 24, 2021, 2:00 PM
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Clemson has 3 National Championships in the modern era of college football.
UGA has 0.
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Re: FIFY...
May 24, 2021, 2:08 PM
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But we have a dang healthy habit of smacking down Clemson!
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What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 2:14 PM
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 2:29 PM
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It looks exactly like a whole bunch of tears, gnashing of teeth, and choice words coming from orange-clad faithful exiting quite a few stadiums over the years.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 2:41 PM
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It’s hilarious how much time you spend on a Clemson board defending your loser program??. I’d almost think you were a Coot.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 3:05 PM
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Ya, it's almost as hilarious as the seemingly huge amount of deep-seeded rage and the hateful grudge you carry towards a program your team rarely plays any more. You obviously have some scars. So maybe UGA should apologize for that. 
Anyway, as I've said here numerous times, I'm perfectly happy to talk actual football: game plans, matchups, strengths/weaknesses, etc. But there's not much of that here. Unfortunately, trash talk can always be met with more trash talk.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 3:13 PM
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You can't chat about football here. It's and endless parade of "1980," "Ugay," "fake punts," "Dabo is the second coming," "Clemson players have the highest morals of anyone who has ever lived - including the one in Texas with the proclivity for hookers," "UGA fans are bad," "LSU fans are bad," "Coot fans are bad," "Kirby Smart cheats," "Nick Saban cheats," "the SEC cheats," "Dabo has never cheated - an anything in life - even as a kid," "that woman is lying about DW," "those two women are lying about DW," "those 25 women are lying about DW," "ESPN hates Clemson," "College football hates Clemson," "The Oprah Winfrey Network hates Clemson."
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 3:59 PM
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Cool, good reasons for you to log out and stay out. We don’t want you here anymore than you morons want us on your board. Bye.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Oh, we love to talk football. Just not so much with slobber-mouth jealous little boys who can’t get over the fact they don’t watch winning football or have any hardware to backup their baseless attempt to troll the complete opposite of their program. Ya see, I’m not on your boards looking for what I know would be 100 fold the crap I give you idiots because I have a life and a reason to watch college football. You, with your projections of “hurt feelings” and no real argument for your comments are what’s embarrassing. That’s why you get the responses you do. HTH.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 4:17 PM
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Don't hold that anger in, brother. Let it out!
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 24, 2021, 5:05 PM
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More projection. Couldn’t be bothered from the view up here. Sorry you can’t relate.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 25, 2021, 8:55 AM
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I don't even know what you're talking about at this point.
When it comes to UGA, you seem to have a lot of rage-fueled comments, rife with name calling. That doesn't hurt my feeling but it does suggest you've got some kind of issue with UGA fans which goes beyond friendly, spirited trash talk. I also don't understand the whole "stay off our boards" stuff. It comes off a bit crybaby-ish. Fans from other teams visiting a site is what makes it entertaining, unless of course all you want is someone to parrot exactly what you think.
So...when you see a post from me or RedDawg or anyone w/o "Tiger" in their profile, and you feel that anger start to well up inside you, take a breath and keep scrolling. In the end, we're just a couple of guys who root for another team. It really isn't any more nefarious than that.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 25, 2021, 12:02 PM
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Too many big words, I get it.
Engaging you and your pal is nothing more than a laugh, a chuckle or better yet, an “oh please,” puppy. You mistake not appreciating your homerism of your squad on a Clemson message board as anger, which tells me all I need to know about your limited ability to read between the lines. You see, you’re little brother or more like an annoying 2nd cousin to Clemson. No threat, just an irritation. It’s one thing to talk the game and another to actually be a big enough ###### to posture anonymously with slights and unquantifiable claims, which you both do frequently. It’s fine to join an opposing board and we have many that do here, but they do so with class or get stomped. I don’t expect anything less than redneck trash from a UGA fan and you are treated accordingly, but feel free to continue to play woe is me because I hut yo feeewings.
You get what you put out there so buckle your chinstrap and quit your whining or tuck tail back to mama.
You smooth brained touchy types are far too easy.
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Re: What does that trophy look like?***
May 25, 2021, 1:25 PM
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lol. See being nice wasn't so hard was it?
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Somehow I missed a national title for the Tigers?
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By "modern era" you mean since 1980? Because 1981 would include all 3 of ours but not UGA's.
I see your point, then again we were legitimately competitive before winning either of our last two titles, that's for sure; that first one against Alabama was a pretty good example in spite of the loss.
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Yes...
May 24, 2021, 4:38 PM
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It has been well documented that the modern era of college football began in 1981. This is coming from football experts, not me.
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Re: Yes...
May 24, 2021, 4:51 PM
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Well-documented, I guess I just didn't know is why I asked.
Thanks. I was alive for both so now I'm curious; can you tell me more about the change? Why would everything before our first title not count, and what changed in 1981? Bear Bryant retiring perhaps, something like that maybe? I don't remember the sport changing in 1981 like it has recently with modern offenses, but I'm still super curious.
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Not sure this helps?
May 24, 2021, 5:45 PM
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It's just a post from you saying the same thing but when we only had two titles I guess?
Wrong link, maybe? Thanks anyway.
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Sorry for the delay...
May 24, 2021, 9:08 PM
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I was working my drosophila melanogaster farm.
What was the question again?
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Re: Sorry for the delay...
May 25, 2021, 8:44 AM
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The question was regarding the "modern era" of college football starting immediately when we started winning championships...
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Re: FIFY...
May 24, 2021, 4:58 PM
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Clemson has won 19 more. Games than UGA in the last 6 years & UGA has lost 10 more games than Clemson the last 6 years, also in 3 National Championships against Alabama we are 2-1. UGA 0-1.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 1:56 PM
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For some time Dabo has fielded teams that compete with anyone.
History is that Dabo has a huge winning % over SEC schools and ACC schools.
No matter conference, the past years have revealed that Alabama, Clemson, and OHS have been the best teams. Blips like LSU, FS, OK, UGA, ND have appeared, but did not hang year after year.
Any who believe that Clemson has not been one of the best teams (no matter conference) raise your hand.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 4:25 PM
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Looking over this thread I see a trend.
Tiger fans are not worried, just look forward to the teams lining up. We are eager!
Some UGA fans, and some pretend Tiger fans, kinda strike me as afraid and whistling in the dark. The Tiger Football Tombstone Graveyard is a real thing, so they should be afraid.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 4:32 PM
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I'm extremely eager for this game against UGA!
Not being worried about it seems misguided, though? I mean, we can be both, and legitimately so; UGA is a sincere threat to our goals outright.
After all, Coach Swinney asks us to respect & prepare for teams like Charlotte and SC State; why wouldn't we do the same or more for a team as talented as UGA, particularly with the relative lack of opportunities on the schedule?
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 4:40 PM
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I get near being sick before every kick off.
Games like this against UGA are what fans hope for.
It is a great match up.
I am an expert fan of college football with more experience (as a fan) than most. I think we win by 14.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 4:44 PM
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I don't think fans on either side are afraid. The informed fans see the strengths and weaknesses of each team and know either team could win.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 4:55 PM
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Looking over this thread I see a trend.
Tiger fans are not worried, just look forward to the teams lining up. We are eager!
Some UGA fans, and some pretend Tiger fans, kinda strike me as afraid and whistling in the dark. The Tiger Football Tombstone Graveyard is a real thing, so they should be afraid.
Yet you are the one who ignored my offer of a friendly wager on your 14.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 5:06 PM
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The Dawgs might beat us but they will have to earn it, we are not an easy out, period!
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 5:17 PM
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I have not ignored. It is a long time to kick off. It is funny that you need 14. That says a lot.
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Re: Alabama Football Predictions
May 24, 2021, 5:50 PM
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I have not ignored. It is a long time to kick off. It is funny that you need 14. That says a lot.
The 14 is not my number. It's yours.
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