GIVE AN AWARD
Use your CatCoins™ to grant this post a special award and grant the author bonus CatCoins™!


YOUR BALANCE
monetization_on
BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.
General Boards - Politics & Religion
add New Topic
Replies: 68  

BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.

emoji_events [7]
Nov 20, 2021, 6:07 PM
Reply

They burn down cities, loot, riot, assault people, murder people, take over police stations, etc and yet they are never touched by the government who (supposedly) exists to protect the public. Why?

Easy. They are tools of the government/establishment. They go out and intimidate where the government legally can't. They threaten jurors. They threaten protestors. They are meant to intimidate the average hard-working person into just shutting up and taking whatever the establishment wants to force down our throats. Their purpose is to silence us.

The Pelosis, McCains, McConnels, Bidens, etc of the world know that they can't overtly do these things or it would wake up the normal citizen. So instead, they use their proxies, and they let them get away with just about anything.

A perfect example of this was the antifa thugs harassing people at an anti-forced medical experiment protest. Is there anything more establishment than supporting the authoritarian government's efforts to force people to do something against their will? They assaulted people in broad daylight and nothing was done to them.

There are many more examples of course. They have been escalating this tactic for the last 3-5 years.

We need to fight this.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 20, 2021, 6:58 PM
Reply

brown shirts

military_donation.jpg flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 20, 2021, 8:25 PM
Reply

The inversion of truth and ignorance of history on display in this thread is...appalling.

I don't know whether to be enraged or just sad by what I see posted anymore. Some people...are just rushing headlong into this epic cataclysm and I only wonder what the body count is going to be at the end, and how many Americans are going to die because of it...and if there even is going to be an America we recognize at the end of it.

I guess if you want to destroy the lessons of history, you first obliterate history. Well done, Tom.

flag link


Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 20, 2021, 9:25 PM
Reply

Why are you sad? It has been a known fact that the Dems has used groups like BLM and Antifa as pawns in their agenda!

flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 20, 2021, 9:54 PM
Reply

Well, let's start with the obvious glaring errors....

He lists John McCain and Mitch McConnell - whose name he can't even spell right - as part of the "Dem establishment". He also claims they're somehow coordinating in a structured way with Anarcho-Communists. (Right-wing brains just can't comprehend that Antifa is anarchists...by definition an island of misfit toys, each with his own manifesto, each a Special and Unique Snowflake, and they spun off the Baader-Meinhof Gang - the Red Army Faction - and the Red Brigades of the '70's and '80's.)

Brownshirts were Nazis, who became the SA that propelled Hitler to power. They were far-right-wingers, far more like the Proud Boys than Antifa or BLM...who are Anarcho-Communists (Antifa) and outright Communists (the "official" BLM "organization" founders, not the movement itself, by definition a "movement" has no real leaders, just icons, it's a social response.)

Communists cannot be Brownshirts. They're, well, Communists. Far-left wingers. America has fought wars with both Commie Rats and Fascist Pigs...and the brownshirts were a hyper-extreme version of Fascist Pig.

I could go on, but Tom's sh!t is word salad, idiocy leavened with distortion mixed with malice and outright lies. It makes my head freaking hurt listening to the crazy vicious crap that pours out of his keyboard...and it frightens me how many people don't even challenge him anymore because so many are echoing this crazy crap every day without even realizing this actually makes them real-deal Fascists, echoing Fascist ideology and the Fascist distortion of truth, decency, and actual fact.

That makes me real mad. And real sad. Sorry.

flag link


Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:18 AM
Reply

Yeah you keep saying they’re all anarchists and operating independently. Yet time and again it’s been shown where they organized and coordinated.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 9:16 AM
Reply

They're an autonomous collective, a product of the modern Internet. They're literally like a digital herd of cats, all sort of working within this really loose framework, and so to eradicate them it's like hunting crabgrass, and you've gotta lop off each individual weed.

With a typical organization - like a right-wing militia even the old Red Army Faction/Red Brigades they spun off of - is going to be organized into chapters or cells, Antifa doesn't usually do that, and when they do, it's like a superhero (or supervillain) team-up, a short run for a specific purpose, and then everybody just peels off the black and voila, they're civvies again. Some do it once, or once in a blue moon...for others it seems to be a lifestyle.

Like, a lot of them aren't Blok - the guys and girls in black - a lot of them are just internet and digital media nerds, who track groups and individuals they don't like. When one of them sees one of these folks they're tracking or has some "direct action" thing they wanna do, they put out a cattle call for all interested Antifascists...and hey, it's basically a digital Fight Club. If they're interested and available, they show up ready to brawl and misbehave. If they're not, they don't. They're not supposed to use their own names - they all use code-names like "Violet" or "Grendel" or whatnot - or tell anyone else who they are, so they can't rat one another out if arrested.

It means nobody has any idea how many of them there really are, and you never have any idea how many of them you're going to be dealing with. And it makes tracking them down and dealing with them absolutely exhausting and unrewarding for law enforcement...so they don't like to do it, because even when you find one it's so freaking hard to tell what they're actually guilty of.

It also makes them fairly ineffective as far as long-term coordinated actions. They can show up and break sh!t, start fights, do marches, make everybody's life he!!, harass the crap out of you. But because of the fact that they are so disorganized and such a rando grab-bag of weirdos, it also means they're not capable of much beyond that either.

To do more than what they do now, and escalate into actual "terrorist threats" instead of the irritating nuisance plague they are now, they'd have to organize into cells again like the Baader-Meinhof Gang did...and if you start seeing that, those, law enforcement can take down a lot more easily. And they may, entities like this tend to metastasize when the real extremists and dangerous ones start getting together. But we haven't seen it yet from them either.

flag link


Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 4:02 AM
Reply

Accuses someone of word salad , acts like there’s a difference between the gov & big corps running USA for their own benefit & everyone just owning up to being communist, same people. Are you stupid or just a terrible person , I’m confused?

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 9:51 AM
Reply

"Same people".

Wow, man. I'll just sort of...shake my head here and walk away slowly. Actually most big corporations are sort of the ultimate and purest practitioners of lead-pipe capitalism. I'd love to see you walk up to, say, Jamie Dimon sometime and tell him "he needs to own up to being a Communist", just to watch the response.

If you guys take over again, I'm moving to freaking Canada. At least it'll be warm there in a few years once America catches fire and explodes.

flag link


Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:40 PM
Reply

You sound like the Arquettes or Alyssa Milano. All talk no action.

2022 orange level member flag link

Maybe you should focus less on spelling and more on


Nov 21, 2021, 8:26 AM
Reply

comprehension. I don't care to know how to spell these a$$holes names correctly. Also, I never said "Dem Establishment" or said that it was limited to Democrats.

The establishment, which is most Republicans and Democrats, was the subject.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Re: Maybe you should focus less on spelling and more on


Nov 21, 2021, 8:54 AM
Reply

Apologies. I did indeed misspeak. "The establishment" in your mind is universally Communist - not merely "Dem" or "Liberal" - you've stated this repeatedly and this includes everybody who doesn't want to burn the entire government and all our institutions.

And these institutions include: the Universities, the press, big corporations, the government bureaucracy ("the Deep State") and all its attendant institutions, Big Tech, Big Pharma, the medical establishment, the military brass and anybody who ever went to West Point, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA...I'm missing more than a few because the list of "corrupt institutions that must be burned down" that you've raved against is impossibly long in your mind, but that's about the long and short of it. And this "Commie Establishment" does indeed include McCain and McConnell in your head.

And you're gonna go right in and take those massive power blocs down, are you? And all these "elites" are just going to sit passively on their hands forever while you raise the rabble against them? Where are you going to organize this rebellion? Parler? (Wait, isn't that...Big Tech?)

You survive on "the establishment's" tolerance, my man. All you have to do to change that tolerance is scare them enough.

flag link


Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 4:56 PM
Reply

You are just like Catahoula®. In any post with which you do not agree, you dig into one minor part of it and decide it's chit when your BS nit-picky point does not make the larger point not true.

I think he knows there's not a cabal that meets in a secret location that rotates around remote parts of the globe to decide winners and losers.

The dems figured out how to create this environment of division and hate for self promotion, and they are using it to their advantage.

flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 3:45 AM
Reply

You got any thing other than hyperbole?

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link

Re: BLM/Antifa are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 20, 2021, 8:50 PM
Reply

BLM and “just an idea” are the second stringers. Legacy media are the ones doing the heavy lifting.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 7:10 AM
Reply

I'm with Q ...uozzell. Btw, I don't recall any instances of "Antifa" openly attacking the government and trying to stop the certification of an election, such as the tards did on 1/6. Don't get me wrong, the far left wing nuts suck, but much more danger coming from the far right these days.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 7:16 AM
Reply

They burned a police station in Minnesota.

flag link

Are you that out of touch, or just trolling?


Nov 21, 2021, 11:09 AM
Reply

Antifa/BLM have committed many acts of violence and destruction. Even the MSM has been forced to cover some of them. Or do you believe the "mostly peaceful protest" while the building is burning in the background?

None of the protestors on 1/6 attacked the government. The only violence that day was carried out by FBI instigators who broke some windows, and Capital Police who murdered and unarmed woman.

2022 white level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link

Re: Are you that out of touch, or just trolling?

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 11:24 AM
Reply

WOW, just WOOOOOW!! And you ask me if I'm out of touch? Yep, those "FBI instigators" are getting convicted on about a weekly basis now and we have like 600 more convictions coming. Also, what part of my "far left wingnuts"(the burners and the looters) comment did you not understand?

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Are you that out of touch, or just trolling?


Nov 21, 2021, 12:44 PM
Reply

I know. There is just nothing whatsoever to even say to that.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 11:51 AM
Reply

Tried to set a federal courthouse on fire in Oregon with agents still inside. Shot a MAGA parade guy in the head just for existing. While not all the damage was from Antifa, it was over $2 billion. But hey…a few hours on 1/6.

Very few people on 1/6 were actually engaged in violence. Most were dopes who followed others inside after limited resistance and were trespassing.

OTOH over 60 secret service agents were injured outside the WH the first weekend of George Floyd protests.


Message was edited by: T3Tiger®


2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:01 PM
Reply

The few hours on January 6 will always be a much larger event for obvious reasons.

flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:05 PM
Reply

If you choose to see it that way. Those people couldn’t have taken over anything if they wanted to. Once some even got inside the Senate chamber, they just sat there….like the dog that caught the car. Nobody is arguing they were right, but the idea of a “threat” has been greatly exaggerated by the media.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 12:18 PM
Reply

200 years from now they will still be talking about the attack on our Capitol instigated by Trump's lies. It will be taught in all schools is the point. It was a way bigger world event. If it wouldn't have been our Capitol though and not brought on by President Trump than it wouldn't have been as big of a deal. Then you add all of the wild footage and it's just a much bigger deal. The Capitol attack impacted all patriotic Americans. BLM matters protests were more financially costly though. The Capitol is more of a huge historical event. It was shown all over the world.

flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:27 PM
Reply

Kinda like foreign media thinking Rittenhouse shot 3 black guys. The foreign media pretty much feeds off of our own dishonest media.

Trump was found not guilty of causing it and the FBI has said they’ve found no evidence of coordination.

Like I said it was a bunch of dopes, most of whom just went there to protest. They got sucked in in the moment by the bad actions of a few, some of whom we are learning were feds.

I’m not excusing or condoning it. I’ve said repeatedly the offenders should be punished. However I can also see through the media and Dem spin as to what actually occurred that day.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:33 PM
Reply

Well, I actually asked you if you were cool with Nazis insulting people of other races and backgrounds on the street while wearing their Nazi symbols right out in the open, and you seemed to think this was his right. You responded with about six Whataboutisms that had absolutely zero to do with what I asked and never answered the question.

Do you not feel this is maybe the classic definition of "disturbing the peace", and might in fact be better-settled by law enforcement defusing this situation, and not a Twitter mob soliciting someone to come "knock this guy the eff out"?

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:40 PM
Reply

Uhh I answered you below in the correct subthread after you posted this. You are mental. And no that isn’t disturbing the peace any more than yelling ACAB and F 12. It’s called freedom of speech.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:47 PM
Reply

So you do not feel that wearing a Nazi armband and insulting black people to their face does not create a situation where there is a "risk of assault"?

We obviously disagree, so let's experiment. Put on a Nazi armband and do what this guy did, see how it goes for you...since you're a man of action and all.

I'll get the popcorn.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:55 PM
Reply

Why would I do that when I said I disagree with it and I know that unstable nutjobs like you and Rosenbaum exist out there? You’re a disinformation specialist man. I’ve come to clearly see it now. You’re about as biased as they come and definitely no independent.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:14 PM
Reply

How am I a "disinformation specialist" for suggesting that law enforcement needs to take Nazi Armband Guy off the freaking street for what is, as you pointed out, a misdemeanor offense and cite him for disturbing the peace before a Twitter mob shows up and starts doing felony assaults to shut him up?

Keeping the peace is the biggest part of law enforcement's job. The obvious problem here is that Seattle's Twitter mob went to Antifa before anybody called the cops...and a felony assault occurred, which the cops weren't interested in either. They just stood him up and sent him on his way once it was obvious he wasn't dead...utterly disinterested in finding whoever beat him down.

That isn't good.

This Fight Club crap whenever a social issue arises - where we see extremist vigilante elements from either side showing up to solve things themselves with fists or bear mace or AR-15's or the freaking hoods of their cars - isn't good.

I would opine saying so makes me sort of the definition of an independent, because I think both extremes are stupid. And immensely destructive.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Reply

No dude don’t even try. You came out with a very biased post insinuating that this guy got what he deserved. After you were called out and rebutted, you try to play the “well both sides are bad” game again. So predictable.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:24 PM
Reply

"Don't even try"? I specifically pointed out that this was not the way to deal with things...and in fact held it up as an example of the kind of violence Antifa instigates and how they do it.

Please cite one place where I even insinuated otherwise. Go on, I'm waiting.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 12:44 PM
Reply

Trump was the cause of it in all reality though. We aren't going to trust our lying eyes and ears? We all know he was the cause of it in the end. He got all of those rubes all fired up believing in nutty conspiracy theories. He could have nipped that in the bud weeks before. His speech that January 6th was bad enough. but the weeks leading up to it created the chaos. In the end we have this due to Trump. Here is what Trump will be known for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnHIJkZZAs

flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:14 PM
Reply

Did it sound like I was in any way excusing or liking Antifa? I'm just saying, they're a civil-nuisance plague, a cyberspace movement, not really a functional terrorist cell...though I could definitely see them forming such again like their forerunners did. There's this whole action/reaction thing and I think you could well see actual terrorist cells like the Baader-Meinhof gang or more extreme versions of the Weathermen forming here again.

Here's a real simplified example of what Antifa mostly is...complete with strangely uplifting music from Rupert Murdoch's own New York Post.

Keep in mind I do not agree at all with the methods used here. Hey, there's a guy we don't like, somebody come beat him down? Not how justice and the law is supposed to work, like at all...law enforcement, take care of this guy yourselves, don't make a Twitter mob do it for you, because that unleashes exactly the crazy we're seeing lately.

https://nypost.com/2017/09/18/jerk-in-nazi-armband-starts-fights-ends-up-knocked-out/


flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
Reply

“law enforcement, take care of this guy yourselves, don't make a Twitter mob do it for you, because that unleashes exactly the crazy we're seeing lately.”

So his crime that he was supposed to be taken care of by law enforcement for was wearing an armband? Obviously I don’t agree with him but does he not have that right in this country? Are you advocating for more Twitter mob/vigilante action like the 3 scumbags in Kenosha? You don’t get to resort to stuff like that just because you don’t like or disagree with people. Move to Canada like you said instead.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 12:26 PM
Reply

So we can have peace on the streets with guys in Nazi armbands actively insulting black people and passers-by on the street?

You're cool with that?

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:34 PM
Reply

Lefties insult and sometimes attack people all the time just for voting for and supporting Trump. You seem to be one-sided as usual. No surprise. I take it from your reply that you couldn’t actually come up with a crime that the cops should have taken him down for. I will respect the right of people to be idiots in this free country, no matter what side they’re on…until they actually break laws.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:39 PM
Reply

I did answer the question. Since you're ignoring my answer here's very specifically how Washington State would see this man's conduct. I would direct you to Statute 9A.84.030, and review the "What's Prohibited" in that statute. The first sentence clearly states: "using abusive language and intentionally creates a risk of assault."

https://www.findlaw.com/state/washington-law/disorderly-conduct-laws-in-washington.html


flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:49 PM
Reply

It’s no more applicable than the examples I gave. It’s designed to keep people from disrupting events, you know like threatening people at restaurants and overturning tables. It’s also a misdemeanor. That’s what you’re saying people should be knocked out for if they cops don’t give them a citation…and that’s likely what it would be too.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:52 PM
Reply

I specifically and emphatically said I did not agree with it. In italics, no less.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/re-trumptards-are-the-brownshirts-for-the-establishment-29858445#29858445


flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 12:25 PM
Reply

It amazes me how some of you folks magnify what happened with the Floyd riots and in the same breath downplay 1/6 like it was nothing. On one hand, you had a large group of folk that was reacting to watching a fellow citizens life get snuffed out by a cop on national TV. On the other, a president was able to convince a large group of Americans that an election had been stolen with such intensity that they were incited to try to "stop the steal". Personally, I never felt danger until our Capital was attacked. Why, because our system of government had never come under an attack like that and the reason is insidious and undermines every transfer of power from henceforth. We've survived many public riots(see the late 1960's) in the past and even survived a civil war, but I give our system of government about a 50/50 chance of surviving 2024. Yep T3, which was more dangerous again?

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:51 PM
Reply

So you’re thinking that people who were 99% unarmed were going to take over the greatest military power in the world. Got it. Hope you make it through 2024.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 12:54 PM
Reply

Jeez, what part of "undermines every transfer of power from henceforth" do you not understand? Do you know what brought down the Roman Empire?

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:02 PM
Reply

Yes and it wasn’t anything like 1/6. It’s the predictable rise and fall of most empires. The Brits and French saw it. We are seeing it too.

See economic troubles, overspending, rise of other powers, political corruption, loss of trust:

https://www.history.com/news/8-reasons-why-rome-fell


2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:09 PM
Reply

Nice, and quick, research. The ones Ive read list like 15 main reasons, including the 8 above.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:11 PM
Reply

Lol research. It’s called posting facts. While you’re at it look up the French Revolution. That’s what a real insurrection looks like.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:20 PM
Reply

LOL, and like Unfinished said above, the history books on the US will not look back kindly on 1/6. I'm sure in X number of years when some historians are writing the "8 or 15 reasons the US empire fell", they will point to 2020 when the tradition of our peaceful transfer of power ceased to exist.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:25 PM
Reply

“they will point to 2020 when the tradition of our peaceful transfer of power ceased to exist.”

I guess maybe you were out of the country in 2000. Or maybe you missed Hillary’s repeated comments that Trump was an “illegitimate President.” Or maybe those just don’t suit your purpose.

I haven’t seen one person on here say the criminals on 1/6 were in the right. I imagine in X years, Dems will likewise still be overly dramatic for political reasons while simultaneously minimizing violence that fits their agenda.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:38 PM
Reply

Jeez, you are desperately grasping at straws now. I don't remember any attacks on the Capital in 2000 or 2016 and the opponents CONCEDED the elections, maintaining the PEACEFUL transfer of power. What they said after CONCEDING, they did so as private citizens and as we would say, have every right to under the 1rst. Btw, I disliked both Hillary and Gore and am not a lefty and agree that Dems are overly dramatic.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:54 PM
Reply

It’s not desperately grasping at anything. It’s exactly where all this bs started. Gore didn’t concede (the second time) until early December. His whole recount effort was based on weak arguments….hanging chads, intent of the voter, etc. It took SCOTUS to finally shut his lunacy down.

People on Jan. 6 were a direct result of years of him, abuses by Obama (DOJ and IRS), and rhetoric from Hillary…not to mention over 300 lawsuits to change election laws just prior to Nov. 2020. That is people being angry about the abuse of a system…not fear of Jews taking over. The drama queens see what they want.

When you start criticizing Dems half as much as you do Republicans (same as Quozzel) I might believe you.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 2:28 PM
Reply

LOL, just LOOOOL. Wow man, trying to equate 2000 and 2020 is insane. It was a few hundred votes in ONE state. Florida's methods were to blame. BTW, I think Q has been pretty harsh on Biden and I don't waste my time BC it's plainly evident. The reason I jump into these are that sooooo many in this country can't see that they had been lied to by a narcissistic fascist and I'm scared for the future.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 2:39 PM
Reply

You saying “LOL” repeatedly doesn’t make you funny.

Your bias shows again, even in this post. 2020 was exactly the same thing 2000. It was a few states that were the key to victory and narrow votes with perceived issues. Trump pushed it too far once he got past the safe harbor date. I’ve said that repeatedly. It was still the exact same thing.

You blame Florida.

You think Quozzel fairly criticizes Biden. The fact that you seem to worship him speaks volumes when most think he’s an unstable Wikipedia guy with TL/DR posts.

Biden has in fact exhibited far more fascist policies and tendencies than Trump did. That’s just facts. You’re “quiet about Biden because it’s not worth your time.” Yeah right.

I think what you’re actually scared of is people are waking up in this country to what is going on and doing something about it. People are speaking out and voting these clowns out. 2022 and 2024 can’t get here soon enough for me.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 3:13 PM
Reply

No, me saying LOL is not trying to be funny, it's me laughing at your post and how far off base you are to me, not to everyone I'm sure, just me. I'll do it again, LOL, cause 2000 was waaaaaaay closer than 2020, which is why Florida became the sole focus. As to your "narrow votes with perceived issues", I guess that would depend on what you define as narrow(anything over a few thousand is generally pointless) and who is doing the perceiving and have they been influenced by a lunatic.

I have agreed with your previous posts on Trump taking it too far.

I tend to agree with Q. The fact that you say "most think he’s an unstable Wikipedia guy with TL/DR post", tells me more about y'all than him, although he can be a little longwinded, LOL.

If you think vaccine mandates are Biden's "fascist policies", then see the Q post about balancing public good with individual rights although at this point I'm not really for the mandates. Let the dumbazzes die if they want is MHO. Trump was fascist in that he wanted to be President for life and attacks ALL perceived enemy's even if they are truly conservative.

I'm “quiet about Biden because it’s not worth my time” is the same reason I don't comment on Clemson football, everyone else covers it pretty well, I have nothing to add. I'm not so much scared of 2022, other than more crazies like MTG, Gosar , etc. being voted in. If true conservatives, that were willing to stand up to the dictator Trump, were voted in I'd be trilled.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 4:23 PM
Reply

I do get diarrhea of the word processor, alas. Guilty. <img border=">

Can't help myself. I write fast and my head has a lotta stuff in it, and it all tends to come pouring out when I write.

But unstable? That's just mean. I'm actually A Very Stable Genius and very seldom if hardly ever murder people who insult me. At least if I'm properly caffeinated. Mind, you catch me on a bad morning, before I've had my coffee....

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:22 PM
Reply

What 1/6 really reminded me of was the Beer Hall Putsch. (Then again, I'm 3/4's German, and my great-grandparents and grandmother fled Germany in the '30's...for being part of a potato-pickers guild. The Nazis didn't much hold with organized labor or even people just trying to get a fair wage for picking potatoes.)

I'll give you three guesses what year this picture was from. The answer and situation will alarm most non-Trump supporters more than a bit.



flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 1:26 PM
Reply

I think it was 33 and yes it's a failed coup attempt prior to far right wing nutjob Nazi's finally taking over.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:36 PM
Reply

It was actually 1923, but yeah, that's the long and short of it. Looks spookily familiar, though.

Hitler was actually elected Chancellor in 1933. Adolf did more than two years in jail after that failed coup...refined the Big Lie, wrote Mein Kampf, learned to put a better glossy finish on his brand, and built a parallel government - complete with a functional bureaucracy - intended to replace the German one.

He got himself elected by the skin of his teeth with around 33% of the vote...and the weak and ailing German President, Paul von Hindenberg, caved and reluctantly named Hitler Chancellor.

This time, Hitler knew exactly where the levers of power were because he'd pre-built them in advance. He switched over to the alternate government the "National Socialists" had implemented prior to the 1933 election (they were no such thing as "Socialists", by the way, it was just another lie to make the harsh medicine go down easier with the masses, whom Hitler regarded as cattle to be led by ubermann types like himself.) The levers of power switched over in turn...and it was right off to the races.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:43 PM
Reply

Yep, typo. I meant 23, but it's amazing to me that some people don't comprehend the danger of the BIG lie and 1/6. I'm afraid history will repeat.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:54 PM
Reply

Me too. Especially because I'm not sure Joe isn't asleep at the switch or has enough lead left in his pencil to stand up to Trump if he tries this crap again and the option is blood in the streets.

If it gets to that point, though, frankly, it doesn't much matter who "wins", it's going to be amazingly ugly either way.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 12:56 PM
Reply

50/50 eh? Wow, hyperbole much? I suggest changing the channel my friend. The corporate media in this Country are a far larger threat to stability than a few hundred unarmed morons. They’ve taught you well.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:06 PM
Reply

LOL, The corporate media has nothing to do with my opinions and history has taught me well. The overwhelming reason we were, as Reagan said, "the shining city on a hill" is that for all these years we have had PEACEFUL transfers of power ... until 2020. History now will likely repeat itself ... again.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 1:56 PM
Reply

I always assumed the overwhelming reason we were “the shining city on a hill” was because of our foundational belief in the individual’s liberty and freedom. That, and our intentional constraints on your aforementioned (State) power. I’m not trying to be confrontational here, but if you truly believe the actions of a few hundred morons was an actual “threat to our democracy”, then you’re obviously fully invested in the corporate media’s disparate narrative.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 2:11 PM
Reply

Democracy is a balancing act that tries to thread the needle between individual liberty and public responsibility.

You lean too far towards "the greater good comes ahead of the needs of the individual", and you're leaning Communist.

You lean too far towards the glorification of the individual and our right to do whatever we $%#% well please without regard to who we're hurting, you're leaning Fascist.

Democracy occurs between the center-left and center-right lanes of the political spectrum...and what we saw there was assuredly an attempted Fascist insurrection. Was it a "softer" one? Yeah, but folks still died and violence was still done...and it could have been a whole lot worse. It was a huge warning sign.

Disagreeing with each other over the fine points of policy is fine...that's what elections are for. But what we saw there was a red-flag that our system of democracy itself is under sustained attack...and that attack was launched by the right, whether it wants to admit it or not.

I don't like our two-party system. Increasingly it's leading to obliteration politics, the amplification of the extreme voices on either side, and the vilification of the other side. You want that stuff to amp down, break up the power the parties now wield and give the voters a lot more actual choices on the menu...and make our politicians start selling what they offer we the voters again instead of them just letting them do their best to obliterate the Red Team or the Blue Team and make us terrified of them.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.

[1]
Nov 21, 2021, 2:16 PM
Reply

I agree with the dislike of the two party system. I’ve always been told “it has to exist.” OTOH, it does prevent crazy changes from happening in government due to checks and balances. On the other though, it creates a bunch of people who vote team over conscience. What would be nice is to do away with or drastically change Congressional leadership and the whipping of votes and promising of committees and pork. Then you might actually have people jumping sides on issues and votes.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 2:28 PM
Reply

Maybe at one point, without computer tabulation, without advanced communications equipment, the party system was a necessarily simplification. Now it's so much in the way it's stupid, a bunch of college kids who know how to Big Board a website could do better. "Hey, who's in favor of this issue, arguments for, arguments against...hey, here they are." (And you line 'em up on the Big Board, everybody studies them, debates occur, and then everybody recesses, caucuses, and then comes back and votes on it. You could preside over that. I could preside over that.)

We aren't communicating anymore by snail-mail letters that are delivered over the course of weeks and months by horse and cart.

We can know what our voters' needs and wants and desires are with almost pinpoint accuracy now, we're still stuck using a system from 1784 that's been gunked up and overgrown with bureaucracy and red tape and special interests to insanity now...and we haven't modernized it.

If we just sat down and did America 2.0 with another constitutional convention the way the Founders did, especially with the idea that the traditional two-party system was going bye-bye and just brought our viewpoints and a fresh perspective to the table, I think we'd come up with something everybody likes a lot better, something a lot more suited to 2021 that preserves the spirit of what they accomplished the first Constitutional Convention. There's not one durn thing the Founders did we can't now, especially since we have their example to build upon.

This two-party thing is stupid and utterly antiquated...and it's killing us right now. Nothing in life is that simple, that black or white...or that red and blue.

flag link


Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 2:13 PM
Reply

No, I truly believe the actions of ONE man, the POTUS, was an actual “threat to our democracy”. Why, just like Germany from 23 to 33, that few hundred morons that were fooled by his BS, might become a few hundred thousand next time. And lets be real here, several million were fooled such that 50,000 of them took the time to show up on 1/6, but only a small percentage of the morons were ready to do battle. If conditions in this country worsen, which is likely the case, it's all to easy to see this expanding next time. Oh, and I just don't see that candidates will so easily concede in the future. Hope Im wrong!

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 2:25 PM
Reply

What does this mean?

“If conditions in this country worsen, which is likely the case, it's all to easy to see this expanding next time.”

What specific conditions and who is causing them or who is in leadership?

Is it okay for conditions to continue to worsen as long as people (very narrow majority which likely no longer exists) keep voting these people in? At what point does that change?

Should one side that has that very narrow majority continue to govern as if the have an overwhelming mandate because they “know what’s best” for Americans?

I believe even our peaceful electoral process can bring this country down because we largely have low-information types with their hand out voting. I’m not optimistic about the future of the country either but it isn’t because of some uprising.

2022 orange level member flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 5:06 PM
Reply

Show us one piece of evidence that shows anyone on Jan 6th planned to "go stop the vote certification." What bullchit! They had no weapons whatsoever. You are just repeating what your phone told you to think.

Is there an email, a video (or audio) of a planning meeting, texts that say the people there intended to stop the vote in a violent takeover of the capital?

The vast majority of video from inside the capital shows a bunch of people walking around like tourists. According to you, they should have had weapons and been screaming in rage looking for people to kill.

Tell us why, specifically, you believe these people were trying to stop the election certification? Several leftists plants start the rampage and the capital police mysteriously step-aside and let people through - this does not equate to an attempt to takeover the capital and stop the vote.

flag link

Re: Trumptards are the brownshirts for the establishment.


Nov 21, 2021, 5:52 PM
Reply

JFC, head in sand much? I won't bother with most of that crap, I'll just ask a long rhetorical question. Was it not Trump and his folks that asked for their supporters to come to DC on 1/6 for a rally that "just happened" to end when congress started the certification process and was this rally not called "STOP THE STEAL"??? Please explain that and then I'll look for the video's of Mo Brooks saying "today's the day we kick ### and take names" or Rudy saying "let's have trial by COMBAT" or Trump telling them to "fight like helll" with the crowd responding "yeah, storm the Capital". ####, even Steve Bannon knew and stated on 1/5 that "all #### was going to brake lose". Maybe you can explain the "hang Mike Pence" chants and the zip tie handcuffs also if you think everything was sooooo innocent that day and everybody was there for a grand showing of peace on earth, good will towards men. Jeez people, they would have torn Nancy to shreds if they had gotten their hands on her. Not that I'm a fan of that cuunt, but ####.

2022 orange level member flag link

Replies: 68  

TIGER TICKETS

FB GAME: Season Tickets
FOR SALE: *PSA* DO NOT WHATEVER DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM “Phillop Jones” his real name is Dwayne Potts and he ...

Buy or Sell CU Tickets and More in Tiger Tickets!

General Boards - Politics & Religion
add New Topic
991 people have read this post