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Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:07 PM
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We all know Trevor had the “IT” factor. He had all the intangibles. Great arm. He was truly the whole package. But what separates him from DJ? After the ND game last year DJ showed me he has everything all the tools that TL had. I don’t see why he’s being put into a different category as Trevor.
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Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:09 PM
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:11 PM
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This is probably the best answer this thread will see
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:20 PM
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The way the defense was playing, TL might have lost that game too. Ehhh, it is what it is. Covid oddity and nothing more. Heck DJ played better vs ND than TL did just a month later.
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:37 PM
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It's easy to assume he would have with all the defensive depletion that was in that game.
2 conclusions can easily be made just looking at both games stats, assuming the only factors in the 2 games that change is who plays...TL or DJ....
1. TL would have lost that game too if he had the same stats he did in the rematch and all other TD's/FG's stayed the same....2 passing TD's, 1 rushing TD.
2. DJU would have won the rematch if he played if he had the same stats he had in the first match...2 passing TD's, 1 rushing TD.
They both had 3 TD's attributed to them in each game they actually played, so technically, they were a wash....DJ outperformed Trevor in total passing yards and QBR, but as far as the score goes, they were identically responsible for the exact same amount of points against ND's defense, so there's really no strong argument to say one was more dominant than the other beyond passing yards and a record being broken.
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:18 PM
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An argument could be made that TLaw never faced a regular season team like that on the road. Possibly that TAM game but he split time with Bryant. IF we're just talking regular season.
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 11:28 PM
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Honestly KB saved that game.
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 17, 2021, 1:54 PM
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He lost a regular game bc he was thrown in the hottest pan of the regular season without the fall camp snaps as the starter, and bc he wasn't the starter that had started 6 games before Trevor contracted covid. DJ hadn't had any of the starter snaps with the first team during the season before he was thrown in the fire of our biggest game so far that season.
As close as that game was with ND, if DJ would have had a couple of games under his belt with an open date prior to the ND game, there isn't any doubt in my mind, DJ would have won that game by a couple of scores, and I don't think that many would disagree!!!
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Re: Because he lost a regular season game.***
Aug 18, 2021, 12:46 AM
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People forget too DJ was injured and didn’t run RPO.
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And Trevor wasn’t Deshaun. No worries.***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:09 PM
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And all the massage chicks know it.***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:02 PM
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Especially the ones who were comfortable with the glute and groin areas.***
Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:15 PM
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Two reasons: 1) Trevor won a National Championship. Trevor went #1 in NFL draft. Only Tiger to do so. A tough act to follow. 2) Most pre-season articles on Clemson have a fair share of FUD. And DJ has yet to make his own name. But no worries. He will.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:16 PM
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Come on people it is right there in your face-
TL- had the Fabio look- long flowing blonde hair- Hair that shampoo and conditioner companies have wet dreams over!
DJ- he is into the DR. Pepper thing and has black hair-- then you Have BIG DAVE--- DJ has no chance to every be a great QB.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:16 PM
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TL is a bit faster making the reads and maybe a bit more precise.... but that is comparing TL in year 3 vs DJ in year 1 in an offense tailored to TL.
I thought DJ looked better vs ND than TL looked in his outing vs TAM when he was splitting time with KB.
I think DJ has more development ceiling room but TL was NFL ready in year one and I think DJ will be there no doubt but he could be better.
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Aug 17, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:32 PM
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Because he has only played in a few games and has much to learn.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:36 PM
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Cause “experts”??? Kid has a canon of an arm, can run, and seems to have the intangibles. Only time will tell.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Why ,Because he is not Trevor, and Trevor was not DeShaun.I really do hate it when people try to compare quarterbacks because you can't. Each played against different opponents, each with different players in some cases, or perhaps a different coaching staff. There were also factors such as home and away ,weather, team injuries( both offense and defense and the opponent) just to name a few.
Each quarterback Clemson has had is/was special .Do you not include Tajh Boyd because he didn't win a "Natty", or wasn't the complete package ?I don't think so.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:57 PM
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You misunderstood my question. I know DJ is not Trevor and Trevor is not DW. The question is referring to the talent level, skills, and expectations of said QB. When Trevor came in his skill and talent was compared by all to be similar if not better than DWs. But DJs skill talent and expectations are not being equally compared. My question was why? Everything he’s shown and that I have seen tells me he is equally gifted and should have the same production and expectations as the other two QBs (DW TL). It’s not like when KB took over there was significant drop off in talent.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 12:49 PM
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If you look at their High School highlights, DJ looks like he'll be a great college QB. Trevor's HS highlights don't even look real. He looks like what you'd expect if Tom Brady was playing against little kids.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 1:09 PM
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Good assessment. I do think DJ has enough ceiling to get there. Agree with FutureDoc post above concerning the reads. One thing we didn't get to see in DJ's starts was creating plays running.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 2:14 PM
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I believe that bc the coaches didn't give him free reign to play his game, he was instructed to play the way they had told him, and I'm betting there was confusing with him on what to do if it didn't work the way his coach told him that it should work. Brand new starters start out playing as instructed to play....
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Experience right ?
Aug 17, 2021, 1:14 PM
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That’s the only major difference between the two players
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Our D last year lost us the Notre Dame Game and put us
Aug 17, 2021, 1:25 PM
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behind in the BC game. DJ has all of the skills needed plus the leadership. Just hope the secondary gets their act together and our DLine can disrupt. I believe both are possible, one more than the other.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 1:32 PM
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IMO, there probably isn't a big difference in the two QBs. DJ is a little bigger than Trevor, and some may see that as a Plus or a Minus for DJ, but I see it as a Plus. Without knowing either of their 40 times, I think that Trevor is probably faster than DJ, but I think that DJ will be tougher for defenders to get on the ground.
Trevor played his HS FB at a really good FB HS in Georgia where he was stamped as a NFL 1st round pick as a HS QB. DJ played his FB at a HS out west, and we never heard that much about him, but, I'm betting that if DJ would have come to the east coast, and played his FB at one of those Academy FB schools, he would have gotten pretty much the same hype that Trevor was getting from one of the top FB HS's in Georgia. Plus, with Trevor being a couple of years ahead, and being the HS super star QB that he was, most of the hype has been about our Trevor Lawrence, but I'm sure that after the season gets going, DJ Uiagalelei will be getting the hype that he is DUE.
I mean who really knows why the hype has been so different from one to the other, I surely don't have the answers, but I do believe that when DJ's time at Clemson is over, he will be right there with Boyd, DW4, and Trevor as some of the top Clemson QBs of all time, plus, if DJ wins a NC at Clemson, and has 3 solid seasons, DJ will himself be a Top 1 or 2 pick in the NFL draft. Plus, I would put my money on DJ being a WIN, WIN QB for our Clemson Tigers!!!!
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Oppositional fear that he might be better***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:11 PM
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Imo, folks should wait until the season is over...
Aug 17, 2021, 2:21 PM
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or nearly over before they speak out for or against on DJ. I can say right now that DJ is a grade A player but it's a long way from a 95 or 97% grade to 100%.
I've been watching college QBs for many, many decades. I've never seen a college QB with TL's ability. Plenty have won national championship but none have been the entire package that's Trevor. I also don't expect DL to reach that 100% mark but if we're spitting hairs DJ may end up coming very close, so close it won't matter to anyone unless they just looking for an argument.
4 months and we'll know.
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 2:40 PM
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I love Trevor, great college QB, but I honestly believe DW4 was a better college QB with the true "It" factor that he showed consistently in big games. Trevor knocked it out of the park in his first NC game, but felt like the LSU and OSU games were not up to his level. DW4 showed he could compete against any team in the national spotlight, even his first NC game where Alabama was stacked, but needed on onside kick to win the game.
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Trevor is fleet of foot. DJ not so much***
Aug 17, 2021, 3:42 PM
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 17, 2021, 10:21 PM
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But lets face it, who is saying this like this, they failed to see the two games that DJ started last season, nuff said!!!
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Re: Keep hearing DJ is great but he’s no Trevor Lawrence. Why?
Aug 18, 2021, 12:07 AM
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At some point this summer I saw a quote from Tony Elliot saying something to the point that DJ has the best ball skills of any QB he's coached.
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