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Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma.


Aug 26, 2021, 9:49 AM
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She says this was written by one of the ER docs there. It’s long but I thought it was worth the time. FWIW

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So, I hit my breaking point today. I haven’t posted on Facebook for years, but I really need to say something. I can’t sleep until I do.

There was a protest outside of my hospital today, with hundreds of people angry at the idea that hospitals might mandate the vaccine for employees, and angry that we are requiring N95’s for those employees who have chosen not to vaccinate (comically, on the invite, the organizers were protesting about the use of N195’s, which if they existed would invent an entirely new NIOSH standard for respirators). There was one lady in scrubs holding a sign with a swastika. There were kids holding misspelled signs their parents had made for them. A lot of people were advocating for Ivermectin, which is not an approved, effective, or safe COVID-19 treatment. Everyone was screaming about the “experimental” vaccine that was fully FDA approved today.

While this was happening, we were having the worst day I’ve seen in the ER in my career. Our hospital is full. All the hospitals are full. We are full with hundreds of nonvaccinated patients who didn’t listen to the experts, who gleefully discounted scientists and researchers and doctors, and who now have COVID-19, and are shocked – SHOCKED – to find out that it is way worse than they were told it was going to be. All these patients have overwhelmed every last resource that we can scrabble together. They are spilling out of the hospital into every hallway, chair, and stretcher that we can find. Our patient volumes have been almost double what they normally are for weeks. The state of South Carolina reported 55% more COVID+ cases today than any other day in the pandemic so far, eclipsing the worst day of the surge in January.

Here’s the thing. I understand that some people like to BASE jump off buildings, drive without a seatbelt, or ride motorcycles without a helmet. Not my cup of tea, but at least when you hit the ground, you’re only taking yourself with you. This isn’t the same. Maybe you survive your bout with COVID-19, maybe you don’t. You probably will. But your parents might get it, or your neighbors, or your kids. And one of those people won’t be so lucky.

And even if none of those people that you personally infected die from coronavirus, some of them might need to be hospitalized, or go to the ER, or go to urgent care. Our hospitals are not built to handle 200% of the normal number of ER visits and hospitalizations. We don’t have the rooms for it, we don’t have the staff for it, and so the entire country’s medical system is shutting down.

And you rationalize this as an argument about personal responsibility and freedom to choose. Except it’s not, because you’re not harming just yourself and other antivaxxers. You’re killing the kids who can’t yet get vaccinated, and the person rupturing their appendicitis during their wait for an ER bed, and the asthmatic who can’t get a breathing treatment because the respiratory therapist is busy intubating a steady stream of unvaccinated COVID+ patients.

So maybe tomorrow you’ll have chest pain, and you’ll worry that maybe this is a heart attack, maybe it’s the big one, the one that takes you away from your family forever. And so, you dutifully head over to your local ER, but you realize that there are 60 people ahead of you in line in the waiting room, the wait is 10+ hours long, and there’s one poor beleaguered nurse out front trying desperately to triage all the patients flooding in.

Or maybe you’re one of those people who doesn’t believe in all this COVID nonsense, but all of a sudden you’ve got a cough and a fever, and every bone in your body feels like it’s breaking from the inside out, and now every single breath is a struggle, and the doctors tell you that you need oxygen and that you’re getting worse, and that you’re about to be quarantined in a hospital room unable to see your family for weeks, and you really might die in this hospital alone, and all of a sudden you realize that your actions have consequences, and you wish you could tell everyone to “take this seriously” now that you know how bad it is. I’ve seen a lot of those people over this last year. They are angry – really angry – that this is not the illness they were told about, that they have been lied to, because COVID couldn’t possibly be that bad. But it is that bad.

If you are on the fence about getting the vaccine and were waiting for it to come out of EUA status, I understand your fears. Now that the vaccine has been fully approved, please go get vaccinated tomorrow. Don’t wait until next week or next month. We don’t have time for you to wait. A lot of unbelievably intelligent, caring, and empathetic people at the FDA have dedicated their lives’ work to medication and patient safety, and they do not approve medications lightly.

If you remain proudly and willfully unvaccinated today despite the FDA approval of the vaccine, I don’t have any more emotional bandwidth to spare for you, not after today. I don’t want to hear your conspiracy theories, your anti-science, or your Facebook research. I don’t want to hear about your vitamin cocktail or your horse dewormer mystery cures. I’m just sick of it. I’m sick of the gaslighting, the selfishness, and the demonizing of the people who work tirelessly to keep you safe. I’m sick of the death and the collateral damage from something that is almost entirely preventable at this point. I’m sick of my pregnant wife having to get all three kids off to school without me because I’m logged in to yet another 6 AM disaster surge-planning call.

So, to each and every one of you people who showed up outside of my hospital today to protest the vaccine, I want you to know that you ruined my day and the day of everyone else in the ER who is working so #### hard to keep you safe. Chant all you want that “the doctors don’t know what they’re talking about”. When you need those same doctors to give you oxygen and medications because you're dying of coronavirus, you know where to find us. We’re right next door to where you parked for your protest.

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Hey everyone, quick edit to take advantage of the attention this has garnered. If you or someone you know is looking to get a vaccine and is not sure where to go, head to vaccines dot gov. I tried to hyperlink it here, but for some reason it was preventing people from sharing the original post. Stay safe, we're all in this together.

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That's strong.***


Aug 26, 2021, 10:05 AM
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Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma.


Aug 26, 2021, 10:11 AM
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ER doctors are such drama queens

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THEY NEED TO DO THERE JOB AND BE HAPPY


Aug 26, 2021, 10:14 AM
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TO TREAT MY UNVACCINATED ARRSE!!

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Re: THEY NEED TO DO THERE JOB AND BE HAPPY


Aug 26, 2021, 10:19 AM
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I have some empathy for them, but they work 10 8-hour shifts a month and spend the rest of the time cruising around with their SUP boards strapped to their Ford Raptors. At least their incomes aren’t affected by the pandemic. They should try being a subspecialty surgeon and having their cases cancelled because there are no floor beds to admit your patients for one or two nights. Most of us are on eat-what-you kill production based contracts, imagine the frustration when you can’t work because knuckleheads won’t get the shot and end up in the hospital.

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Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma.


Aug 26, 2021, 10:11 AM
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I've seen several version of this shared across the interwebs. Common tactic for both sides to create something sprinkled with just enough truth to make it believable and those who want to believe it's legit will. C.S. Lewis has false quotes attributed to him all the time...just make up something that sounds reasonable and slap an "authority" figure on it and it takes on a life of its own.

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Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma.


Aug 26, 2021, 10:13 AM
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Just a follow up...I have an actual friend who is an ER doc. We became friends as we both battled our school boards over trying to implement mask mandates. He has been on the front lines since the beginning and doesn't prescribe to the same way of thinking as this "doctor." He doesn't want his kids in masks. Wonder if his opinion matters as much?

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I'm sure that's 100% true and not made up at all.***


Aug 26, 2021, 10:15 AM
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You need to believe that I am sure


Aug 26, 2021, 10:19 AM
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Sorry it makes you uncomfortable, but tis true as the day is long.

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Re: You need to believe that I am sure


Aug 26, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Nobody has claimed that all doctors are intelligent. Your friend proves the point.

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Re: You need to believe that I am sure


Aug 26, 2021, 10:23 AM
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I see...and here is where we are. Only perspective is the allowed one. Great science there!!

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"Only perspective allowed"


Aug 26, 2021, 10:25 AM
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means all my indocterined false news should count in a conversation based on science and facts.

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I like your funny words magic man


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Aug 26, 2021, 10:26 AM
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So I know this Nurse Practitioner who does patient flow for


Aug 26, 2021, 10:22 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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Prisma at Memorial, they have constant visibility to all beds not just at memorial, but in the upstate. She only works part time and last time she worked was last Friday. The Greer hospital had 54 patients waiting in the ER. She used to work med/surge there and knows that place only has beds/rooms for about 21 patients (pre-COVID). It's not just a problem here in the Upstate, they're turning away patients tryin to come from out of state because those hospitals are full up in NC and Georgia too. There are kids catching this new variant this time around. It's not just the grown-ups. I hope your kid doesn't catch this because of the stupidity of people walking around like nothing's happening.


And when I say I know her, I mean biblically.

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Is it fair to say


Aug 26, 2021, 10:24 AM
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you put your viral load in her covid pocket?

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What? Ew groce no


Aug 26, 2021, 10:25 AM
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I put put my sweat meat in her ham wallet.

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Masks or not, is your friend claiming that hospital/ER


Aug 26, 2021, 10:28 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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overloads aren't happening? That's pretty much the crux here. This isn't about whether masks prevent transmission, in adults, kids, or otherwise. It's about vaccines keeping people from requiring hospitalization, as the current glut of patients are 90%, give or take, unfuckingvaccinated.

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Wow, so do I. Actually, he's a geriatric doctor, treats old


Aug 26, 2021, 10:54 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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people at his practice and makes rounds in nursing homes. But now he's a covid ICU doctor. Amazing huh? He is now because the hospital that owns his practice transferred him to hospital duty, so he can treat mostly unvaccinated people who hate masks. He has six kids, they all wear masks. They attend a private school, and as such they are required to wear masks at school, and he's fine with that.

As for the schools, Lexington 1 is having a virtual school training day, because the writing is on the wall.

Lexington District 1 - No mask requirement, 27,000 students. Following the law. 342 infected students, 2,567 quarantined.
https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/c37ecc8f-2023-419f-a0cc-1bfbe0c88f3c/page/EBDhB

Richland District 1 - 22,000 students. Broke the law, mandated masks. 40 positive students, 225 quarantined.
https://www.canva.com/design/DAEl9Q_u2K8/SNqvzVgqCU7UZnknSgxkCg/view?utm_content=DAEl9Q_u2K8&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=sharebutton

Richland District 2 - Also 27,000 students. Broke the law, mandated masks. 22 infected students, 85 quarantined.
https://www.richland2.org/Departments/Communications-Strategic-Partnerships/COVID-19-Plan/COVID-19-Dashboard


Charleston County School District - 50,000 students. Broke the law, mandated masks. 38 cases
https://www.ccsdschools.com/COVID-notification

And all these quarantined students, and infected students, live in homes, with parents, who WORK, and pay taxes. Yes, when your child is quarantined, you have to stay home. When you're sick, you have to stay home. So there's an economic impact that's on the horizon as well. Our housekeeper missed a week, actually almost two because she had children quarantined, and the daycare shut down for her youngest. There are parents of 2,500 kids in Lexington District One having to find child care, with sick kids, sick themselves, or can't find childcare for a quarantined child. Lot of work being missed.

If your stated goal is to keep kids in school, keep parents working, keep the economy humming? Well, might have a problem with that.

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Look, I think we all know how the "facts" work around here


Aug 26, 2021, 11:00 AM
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Clearly those numbers are FAKE NEWS. Who's in charge of the schools? The Principal. And how did they become a principal? By going to college. And colleges are historically LIBERAL so clearly there's a bias in the numbers here.

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^^^ LOOK AT ME!!! I HAVE A HOUSEKEEPER!!! ^^^


Aug 26, 2021, 11:05 AM [ in reply to Wow, so do I. Actually, he's a geriatric doctor, treats old ]
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pigs please

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


She's somewhat hawt. Less so after having #3.


Aug 26, 2021, 11:10 AM
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originally a solid 8, now barely holding a seven.

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"Don't believe everything you read on the internet."


Aug 26, 2021, 10:14 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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- Abraham Lincoln

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It was posted by Zac Kahler who works for Prisma....


Aug 26, 2021, 10:17 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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in Greenville. He's a good friend of a good friend. Real life person and real comments.

https://www.facebook.com/zac.kahler


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Aug 26, 2021, 10:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Received this story from a friend that works at Prisma. ]
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The original post is from the account of an actual ER doc at Prisma, so…I guess it’s possible that he copied some of it. There was a protest at Prisma several days ago which is when he made the post.

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Zack (ER Doc) posted it on facebook. Friend of guys


Aug 26, 2021, 10:26 AM
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that I know and play golf with.

The guys that I know have their kids in school and sports without masks. But the parents have all been vaccinated.

My buddies aren't nearly as dramatic as this guy, but they do say it sucks being on call right now because they're for sure getting called in to intubate and such. Also, it is a huge problem for the routine appendicitis ER visits.

The biggest thing is just encouraging the vaccine, but facebook rants like this make most people NOT in a hurry to get the vaccine.

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poor little snow flakes? Come on....


Aug 26, 2021, 10:33 AM
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at this point, are we supposed to be sensitive to people refusing to be vaccinated?

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Not at all.


Aug 26, 2021, 10:36 AM
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But posts like that on facebook aren't helpful. You're not reaching your audience.

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At this point I'm not sure anything can reach them


Aug 26, 2021, 10:41 AM
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which means actively calling them idiots while they are struggling to breath should be allowed.

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I like your funny words magic man


Re: At this point I'm not sure anything can reach them


Aug 26, 2021, 10:46 AM
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maybe 3 months ago you would have had a point***


Aug 26, 2021, 10:42 AM [ in reply to Not at all. ]
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Ah America, where the more experts present facts


Aug 26, 2021, 10:39 AM [ in reply to Zack (ER Doc) posted it on facebook. Friend of guys ]
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and science, the more mouth breathers think it infringes on muh freedumbs

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I like your funny words magic man


This rant had facts in it that I completely agree with, but


Aug 26, 2021, 10:41 AM
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the way it was written is not going to get the intended results from the audience that needs to hear it.

The rant is gonna get praise from those who agree with him.

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If a person looks at a post by somebody on the front lines


Aug 26, 2021, 10:45 AM
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of this and thinks, yeah I agree, but because it sounds condescending I'm going to

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They weren't getting the vax anyways and get whatever is coming to them. I'm not a front line worker and I'm already out of empathy for these idiots.


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I like your funny words magic man


That is a great post, but we all know non-vaxers are gonna


Aug 26, 2021, 1:24 PM
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"fake news" it all day long.

I cannot wait for the time when you go to the ER and the first question they ask is "show me your vaccine card" - and when you cannot prove you had it, go to the back of the fuckingline. Really, just wait in your car - we will text you when a bed for the unvaccinated opens up.

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