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Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 6:09 AM
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I was just curious after the "schools turning our kids into commies" thread with the Marx discussion in it. So, lets look at the definition of communism:
"Communism is a political and economic ideology that positions itself in opposition to liberal democracy and capitalism, advocating instead for a classless system in which the means of production are owned communally and private property is nonexistent".
So, my answer is that I've never met an American that is willing to give up their personal property and let the government run everything. Sounds disastrous and I think the USSR pretty much proved that. The interweb says there are some of them around somewhere. So, have any of y'all ever met one of those commies?
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I met one girl that sais she was a communist
Mar 17, 2022, 6:35 AM
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turned out she came from a super-wealthy family, had been through rehab about a dozen times, and had no clue what communism really was, she thought it meant that you did not have to pay rent and food was free.
other than that, nope.
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It would make it easier if they wore a tshirt or something
Mar 17, 2022, 6:41 AM
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to identify themselves ...
Dems are great at spotting Nazis though ... not sure how they do it.
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Funny you mention that
Mar 17, 2022, 7:03 AM
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But Neo Nazis are pretty easy to spot, they are open openly white supremacists, fashion themselves after Hilter youth posters, and have a special kind of smugness to them.
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Re: It would make it easier if they wore a tshirt or something
Mar 17, 2022, 7:56 AM
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Well, with Nazis it's simple. They identify themselves.
Fascists, on the other hand - which is the last step before you get to the extreme right, which is Nazism - are a little trickier.
They're tribal, believe in "us" or "them." You see vilification of specific groups of people - gays, minorities, etc. You see a proposal of extreme solutions, often militaristic. You see them swimming in fake news and propaganda even as they accuse the opposition of lying about everything. You tend to see cultlike devotion and blind loyalty to a single strongman leader who likes to talk tough. And they get along with no one. They don't want peace or compromise - those are dirty words to them - and their only relationship with people of other parties or viewpoint is to fight them.
I dunno, clem, you know anybody like that?
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever met one?
Mar 17, 2022, 7:31 AM
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Dang, I don't want to hit that link. Can you tell me how many of them commies there currently are in the USA? Any in the government? Have you ever met one?
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Well, there's this.........
Mar 17, 2022, 7:54 AM
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.... https://www.richlandlibrary.com/catalog/detail/616977In his memoir, Barack Obama omits the full name of his mentor, simply calling him "Frank." Now, the truth is out: Never has a figure as deeply troubling and controversial as Frank Marshall Davis had such an impact on the development of an American president.Although other radical influences on Obama-from Jeremiah Wright to Bill Ayers-have been scrutinized, the public knows little about Davis, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA, cited by the Associated Press as an "important influence" on Obama, one whom he "looked to" not merely for "advice on living" but as a "father" figure.While the Left has willingly dismissed Davis (with good reason), here are the indisputable, eye-opening facts: Frank Marshall Davis was a pro-Soviet, pro-Red China communist. His Communist Party USA card number, revealed in FBI files, was CP number 47544. He was a prototype of the loyal Soviet patriot, so radical that the FBI placed him on the federal government's Security Index. In the early 1950s, Davis opposed U.S. attempts to slow Stalin and Mao. He favored Red Army takeovers of Central and Eastern Europe, and communist control in Korea and Vietnam. Dutifully serving the cause, he edited and wrote for communist newspapers in both Chicago and Honolulu, courting contributors who were Soviet agents. In the 1970s, amid this dangerous political theater, Frank Marshall Davis came into Barack Obama's life.Aided by access to explosive declassified FBI files, Soviet archives, and Davis's original newspaper columns, Paul Kengor explores how Obama sought out Davis and how Davis found in Obama an impressionable young man, one susceptible to Davis's worldview that opposed American policy and traditional values while praising communist regimes. Kengor sees remnants of this worldview in Obama's early life and even, ultimately, his presidency.Kengor charts with definitive accuracy the progression of Davis's communist ideas from Chicago to Hawaii. He explores how certain elements of the Obama administration's agenda reflect Davis's columns advocating wealth redistribution, government stimulus for "public works projects," taxpayer-funding of universal health care, and nationalizing General Motors. Davis's writings excoriated the "tentacles of big business," blasted Wall Street and "greedy" millionaires, lambasted GOP tax cuts that "spare the rich," attacked "excess profits" and oil companies, and perceived the Catholic Church as an obstacle to his vision for the state-all the while echoing Davis's often repeated mantra for transformational and fundamental "change."And yet, The Communist is not unsympathetic to Davis, revealing him as something of a victim, an African American who suffered devastating racial persecution in the Jim Crow era, steering this justly angered young man on a misguided political track. That Davis supported violent and heartless communist regimes over his own country is impossible to defend. That he was a source of inspiration to President Barack Obama is impossible to ignore.Is Obama working to fulfill the dreams of Frank Marshall Davis? That question has been impossible to answer, since Davis's writings and relationship with Obama have either been deliberately obscured or dismissed as irrelevant. With Kengor's The Communist, Americans can finally weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.
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Re: Well, there's this.........
Mar 17, 2022, 8:01 AM
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Wow, you met that guy? How many more like him are out there?
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You asked, "Any in the government?"
Mar 17, 2022, 8:06 AM
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Since Obama is still running the Dem party, I thought this was an appropriate answer.
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Re: You asked, "Any in the government?"
Mar 17, 2022, 8:07 AM
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Obama is still running the Dem Party? Wut?
(scratches head.)
Did someone just wake up from a coma?
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You asked, "Did someone just wake up from a coma?"
Mar 17, 2022, 8:13 AM
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That would be YOU if you think Joe Biden is actually in charge?
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Re: Well, there's this.........
Mar 17, 2022, 8:05 AM
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Well, lessee here...written by Paul Kengor, PhD...a professor at (drum roll) Grove City College, a private Christian college in Pennsylvania. Awesomesauce. His other works include Dupes: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives For a Century, and Takedown: From Communists to Progressives, How the Left Has Sabotaged Family and Marriage...
Uh...okay, Boomer. Go back to Fox News, where I'm sure this guy was guest contributor. Especially since I already know you haven't read that book, since I suspect nobody has waded through it.
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Re: Well, there's this.........
Mar 17, 2022, 8:10 AM
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Ok, quoz....shoot the messenger
Now tell me what YOU know from "reliable sources" about the mentorship of Obama by Frank Marshall Davis (Communist).
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Y'know...we actually had 8 years of Obama in office.
Mar 17, 2022, 8:57 AM
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Is it safe to assume we're now a communist country after everything that dyed-in-the-wool Marxist most certainly accomplished?
Also, being the only "source" about a piece of information doesn't automatically make one a "reliable source".
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Re: Y'know...we actually had 8 years of Obama in office.
Mar 17, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Is your goal here to simply attack Kengor as quoz did or do you have specific arguments against the research & findings of his work?
Again, I'll ask you the same question back (that @quoz never answered)...
... Can you provide any verifiable information on the mentorship of Obama by Frank Marshall Davis (Communist) from any person YOU consider to be a "reliable source"?
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I've never even heard of the guy until your post about him
Mar 17, 2022, 10:14 AM
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this morning. That would indicate to most rational people that he's not of particular importance relative to Obama or anybody else. And then, of course, you have a smaller segment of people who take the only available piece of literature on this subject and canonize it as truth, while simultaneously making the determination that the reason nobody else has ever bothered to write about this person is because it's a massive media coverup conspiracy.
A "goal of attacking Kengor" is pretty amusing, since neither quozzel (presumably) or I have heard of this person before you posted his manifesto. Take around 8 seconds to look at his background, and that should give you some context clues as to why he wrote what he did.
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Re: I've never even heard of the guy until your post about him
Mar 17, 2022, 10:20 AM
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But, all that personal venom aside,....
....what is your disagreement with what he wrote?
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It reads like an op-ed piece with illogical leaps and
Mar 17, 2022, 10:29 AM
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tenuous connections, and that's being pretty generous. "Obama instituted universal healthcare because of this hardcore communist Fred guy nobody's ever heard of who was totally a huge influence on Obama". Or maybe it was because 43 other countries across the world have some form of universal healthcare, none of which are communist.
This is a guy trying to sell a book. I'm guessing he didn't succeed in doing so since most people have never heard of him. Did you read his book? Or did you also just discover him via Google this morning?
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Provide one "source" OF YOUR LIKING please
Mar 17, 2022, 10:50 AM
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...that independently examines the relationship and influence of Frank Marshall Davis on Barack Obama, rather than attacking this one.
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I don't think you're tracking here. Let's try this again:
Mar 17, 2022, 11:08 AM
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I. Do. Not. Have. Another. Source.
I've never heard of Frank Marshall Davis or the Kengor guy who wrote about Frank Marshall Davis before this morning. My brain tells me that the reason I've never heard about either of them is because they're both inconsequential. There was more digging for and around Presidential candidate Obama than any other candidate in the history of this country, and that's why we know all about Saul Alinsky and Jeremiah Wright (this one was particularly amusing for the crowd that screamed about Obama being a Muslim, but also spent 20 years in blacktivist Christian Wright's church). Ironically, much of the digging was pushed and funded by Obama's successor in the Oval Office.
And in all that effort by all those outlets and all those tens of thousands of paid people...nobody ever came up with Frank Marshall Davis, at least that I saw. Isn't that...odd?
So, do I have another source about this person I just learned existed this morning, some 5 years after Obama left office? I do not, nor will I be taking the time to look for other content regarding this person. If that means you "win" the discussion, then congratulations on the victory.
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Re: I don't think you're tracking here. Let's try this again:
Mar 17, 2022, 11:21 AM
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Plus, let's face it, does it really matter?
Sure, I suppose Obama might have been a Secret Commie, just as His Trumpiness claimed without evidence (that should be a permanent footnote attached to everything Donald ever said, since he like, never provides any evidence for anything that comes out of his mouth, other than sputtering "lots and lots of people say") that Obama was actually a Secret Muslim who wasn't born in America.
I mean, like, decide already. Was The Obammer a Secret Commie bent on turning the Red, White, and Blue pink, or was he a Secret Muslim dedicated to the overthrow of the Infidel in the name of Allah? Because those two alleged motives kind of, you know, are not really compatible.
That said, the reason it doesn't matter is because Obama's been out of office for five years now, and he ain't coming back. If he was a Secret Commie, or a Secret Muslim Radical, whatever foul scheme he intended, somehow in eight years he never pulled it off.
You MAGA guys don't just fight the last war, you're doing freaking seances over long-dead horses that never had any legs to begin with.
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I'm not a "MAGA guy", whatever you mean by that
Mar 17, 2022, 11:28 AM
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And I'm not trying to "win" a discussion.
The OP was about "commie" talk and I simply made relevant replies to the ensuing thread.
Sorry if I fluffed your feathers.
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Re: I'm not a "MAGA guy", whatever you mean by that
Mar 17, 2022, 11:55 AM
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Claiming Obama was a Commie is pretty MAGA, my man.
Obama wasn't particularly far to the left...which actually really frustrated a lot of genuine leftists and progressives. For instance, his most-defining "accomplishment" is without question ObamaCare. He had the votes to institute single-payer, instead he floated that out as a compromise, which the GOP has tried to dismantle ever since. (And if the GOP succeeds, God himself help us, because we're going to get a national health care system as millions of angry voters who are left without insurance or medical care slam the voting booths.) And once that kind of thing is given...you can never, ever take it away.
Dude tried to lead mostly from the middle, though he did steadily increase the scale of both big government and executive orders, which I did not agree with. You just never heard that from Fox.
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Re: Well, there's this.........
Mar 17, 2022, 10:28 AM
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I don't know anything about him, other than his public bio.
It...uhm, paints a certain and fairly obvious picture. Especially that he writes really bad books. I know this, because he starts with the greatest of all sins: using the ":" after the first word of his title. I mean, have you ever seen anything that wasn't a giant steaming turd have ":" after the first word in the title? Let's go through some of the worst-reviewed movies ever on Rottentomatoes, it's a red-flag the flick is in the running for a Razzie.
Terminator: Dark Fate. Yeesh. Ballistic: Ecks Vs. Sever. Don't even. Jaws: The Revenge. Make it stop!
I could go on, but I won't, because this is just that awful to think about. So his title tendencies alone set off those Run Away!!! reflexes in anybody who knows how to recognize a turkey even before it has a chance to gobble at you. Leaving aside the obvious fact the dude's an obvious hyper-conservative from a Christian college nobody's ever heard of.
Hey. I didn't make these rules.
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Here's one with "." from WAPO
Mar 17, 2022, 11:03 AM
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... but it's just a responsive comeback to other people's work.
Do you have any examples of fact-finding investigative journalism about the relationship & influence of Frank Marshall Davis on President Barack Obama that you could share?
If not, doesn't it seem odd... if so, please share.
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I met one once
Mar 17, 2022, 7:49 AM
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He was a teen at the time and hadn't started working a real job for a living yet. And he had an iPhone.
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Commies are like snipe, they are hard to find.
Mar 17, 2022, 8:01 AM
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Pretty much the same for all culture war issues. Right wing snowflakes dance around in circles in irrational fear of overblown emotional issues.
(Standby for links to some BS links ….5-4-3-2-1)
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:17 AM
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Yeah, I did not say IDIOT progressive socialist. Did Maxine say she wanted to take that dudes house away also and have you ever met her?
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:24 AM
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No, she just wanted to take their business.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:29 AM
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Hence the word IDIOT I added to her description!
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever met one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:24 AM
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Now here's where the debate between public versus private is actually legit. Put Waters aside, she's a goofy moron. But stuff that's an easily exploitable common resource like that, that doesn't really rely upon innovation but just simple and well-known process - maybe should be "nationalized" - I don't personally like that word "socialize" - because there's a compelling argument it really belongs to all of us. It's an American natural resource.
We all know private industry does it better with most things, and where private industry is superior, it should absolutely be done privately...but oil production may not be one of those things. And done correctly you can use a nationalized oil industry as the basis for massive revenue generation. Norway did. They formed a central oil conglomerate, Statoil, and used it as the investment base for their sovereign wealth fund...which now is worth $1.1 trillion dollars! (keep in mind the world's only worth maybe $440 trillion total!)...all for a nation of less than five million people. That's some serious cheddar, and that booming sovereign wealth fund is why Norway can build amazing stuff like this, which is really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCT-FurFVLQ
How are they doing it, again? Their sovereign wealth fund. Which is a really, really interesting idea, and one we should maybe be talking about here.
Keep in mind I'm no advocate of sweeping, all-across-the-US-type changes, but we should start test-running some limited sovereign wealth funds of our own and see how they do. It's definitely an idea worth exploring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZf9XJ8-tgc
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever met one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:27 AM
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So you're cool with communism. It's okay. You can say it.
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It's like you don't read what people write.***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:42 AM
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Re: It's like you don't read what people write.***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:46 AM
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It's like you didn't read what he wrote
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:28 AM
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Same thing from my Maxine reply applies to Bernie except substitute "IDIOT progressive socialist" with "democratic socialist". The OP concerns commies.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:29 AM
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Yeah, ok
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:33 AM
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Well, that was the point of the whole thread. I hear the word "commie" from a lot of folks(even from my mother-in-law, ugh) and even from some "news" outlets and yet 99.9999% of Americans STRONGLY oppose "communism".
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:37 AM
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We're going to have to figure out a new model of ownership at some point.
Sorry, we are.
The reason's pretty simple: 3D printing is coming, so 95% of manufacturing jobs are going away.
Automated vertical farming is coming. That means 95% of farming job are going away.
Shopping's all going to be done via the Metaverse, in virtual stores. That means 95% of brick-and-mortar retail's totally going away. E-bay and especially Amazon have already taken a huge chunk.
Robots are coming that can replace most humans for mundane tasks.
At that point, low-end labor will be more or less worthless. What becomes of those people then? Do we just let them starve to death because they're useless mouths to feed? The only thing worth anything at that point will be raw materials...and of course, the technical information for the manufacturing schematics. And data.
We almost have to move to socialism then. I agree, it's impractical now because nobody can afford socialism...unless you've got a $1.1 trillion sovereign wealth fund like Norway has. But it almost becomes a necessity, when that future I mentioned arrived. Or a whole lot of folks are just going to up and starve to death.
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Soylent Green of/by/for the masses? What happened to algae?***
Mar 17, 2022, 9:40 AM
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“My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:37 AM
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:43 AM
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I just learned the new term for communist is now 'Idiot Progressive Socialist'.
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:48 AM
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Yep, 19B is right, your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Again, 99.9999% of Americans STRONGLY oppose communism.
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:52 AM
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When there are people that think nationalizing whole industries is not communist, then it is clear that many people do not understand communism.
You sure it's not 99.99999?
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 8:56 AM
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Not advocating, but is Norway a Communist country? And I guess it could be that percentage, you could be correct.
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 9:00 AM
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I don't know. Did they nationalize an industry and take away people's ownership rights?
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 9:07 AM
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Well, according to Quozzel mid page, they did. You know what, they rank 2nd in the world's strongest democracies and we are currently 36th ..
https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking
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Re: “My commie dictionary says it isn’t communism!”***
Mar 17, 2022, 9:16 AM
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He didn't say they took people's property. I don't know what their industry looked like before. Maybe it wasn't actually an ownership grab by government.
If UW says it, it must be true.
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It's communist af. Funded exclusively by the public
Mar 17, 2022, 9:32 AM
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and 100% controlled by the government. P6fuller, is this the organization you voluntarily worked for?
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It is. The military is owned and controlled by the gov.
Mar 17, 2022, 10:19 AM
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Therefore, communist.
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Gosh...
Mar 17, 2022, 10:25 AM
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It's amazing all those communist armies that kings and queens all over the world used to employ before communism was ever invented.
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So, you're saying mental illness didn't exist until the word
Mar 17, 2022, 12:44 PM
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was invented?
Everyone was just a crazy dingbat until the word "mental illness" was invented, then it became real?
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:39 AM
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Quozzel - but I've never met him.
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This is like some weird, ingrained reaction you have to even
Mar 17, 2022, 9:12 AM
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discussing alternative strategies for managing critical natural resources, other than the current model where government and citizenry beg extraordinarily wealthy executives of a handful of companies to increase production. It doesn't matter that successful alternatives have been implemented elsewhere in the world, we're just going straight to
I would have expected that from several other posters, but always thought you were capable and interested in rational discussion. I reckon we've found your hot button.
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Re: This is like some weird, ingrained reaction you have to even
Mar 17, 2022, 9:19 AM
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Yeah - Government taking property of people and/or business is one of my 'hot button' issues. That is a rational stance for all true liberals.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 9:49 AM
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LOL. I'm hardly a "Communist". My contempt for the extreme right is exceeded only by my contempt for the extreme left.
What I'm not is just blindly opposed to innovation where we've seen it work.
Successful governance is always a push-pull between private and public interests, and the world is always innovating. We were the institutors of modern democracy but that hardly means we perfected it. Other countries are trying interesting new stuff all the time and we should always keep peering about and seeing what's working and what isn't.
Then we should try the best of those ideas themselves. Not as sweeping, huge-spending "build back better" type bills that completely redistribute wealth, but as test cases at the state or even local levels. Let's see what works, crash-test it and fine-tune it ourselves.
Just grunting "ain't gonna try that, ever" is ridiculous and is guaranteed to get us left behind...because the world always moves on around the immovable folks who won't change with progress, which happens whether it has permission to or not.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 10:17 AM
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I know you're not. It was a little tongue in cheek. But when you start talking about nationalizing industries and taking away people's ownership rights, for communal purposes, let's call it what it is. You may think it's a good idea, but that is what communist countries do. Label it what you will - whatever you call it, it's not a direction I want to go.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 10:38 AM
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Oh, I wouldn't just yank. That's my point. Dems tend to run afoul of that "law of unintended consequences" thing all the time because they institute some grand, sweeping, well-meaning, Big Government plan...only to see it blow up in their faces (and everyone's faces) because they didn't test it out over time and at a smaller scale to see what the "gotchas" were.
I'm all in favor of trying new stuff. But at a smaller scale, again, at a local or state level first...and let's kick back and see what happens before we get all in a rush to implement it everywhere. That's my big issue with Build Back Better. So much money just thrown out the window, into what amounts to pure pork and a lot of liberal fever dreams that were never good ideas to begin with, let's just throw them against the wall all at once and see what happens?
What happens is pretty predictable. Let's break up those good intentions into parcels, and test-drive them at small scales first. Most of 'em will turn out to be the bad ideas they always were.
Just saying, though, what Norway has accomplished - at a scale of five million people, which would be a small state in the USA - is interesting.
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Re: LOL, Quoz is capitalist AF
Mar 17, 2022, 2:48 PM
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Well, he did make an argument, in this thread, that we are pretty much going to have to become socialists to survive. Doesn't seem capitalist AF to me.
Although I do disagree with his argument about the future and that AI will cause almost total employee obsolescence, I believe it is a sound point to consider.
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You've met one
Mar 17, 2022, 9:29 AM
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Look in the mirror.
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Re: You've met one
Mar 17, 2022, 9:31 AM
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I expected that one, but I was surprised it took so long. Way to go NC, you never disappoint!
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 9:32 AM
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If they went to most colleges in the US they met more than one communist.
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Re: Any of you folks using the word "commie" ever meet one?
Mar 17, 2022, 9:36 AM
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So, what your saying is you've got the USA at 99.9% against communism. Oh, and I went to Clemson for 4.5 years and never met one. Even had a Civil professor from Taiwan with a thick accent. He may have been the most against communism on the campus as he said one time in class, "I suppose if I return to Taiwan, I be shot".
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Haven't met one but I've seen a few on the telly...
Mar 17, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Trudeau in Canada and Johnson in the UK don't seem to mind 'appropriating' individual's assets in the name of the state.
Is that communism?
Is freezing $315B in Russian assets communism at work?
Of course not. It's just Bankstas making bank. The long arm of the IMF/World Bank and their self-appointed legalise...
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yes, anyone who believes in the Green New Deal.***
Mar 17, 2022, 11:12 AM
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I met Nikita Koloff once
Mar 17, 2022, 1:34 PM
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and the Russian dude from Rocky 4 went to Clemson. Does that count?
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