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Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 2:10 PM
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This team has yet to put together a 4 quarter game but remain undefeated …
In fact they carry the longest active win streak CFB….they believe they will and they know how to win…
They have the talent to play with anyone …if/when they put together a complete game it will be a scary thing for the opposition…
What if they don’t do that until the CFP..do you honestly believe Bama, OSU, Tenn, Michigan , UGA, TCU…etc of this team at full capability for 4 quarters??
They don’t and if forced every HC of the aforementioned teams would admit as much…
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 2:12 PM
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This team has yet to put together a 4 quarter game but remain undefeated …
In fact they carry the longest active win streak in CFB….they believe they will and they know how to win…
They have the talent to play with anyone …if/when they put together a complete game it will be a scary thing for the opposition…
What if they don’t do that until the CFP..do you honestly believe Bama, OSU, Tenn, Michigan , UGA, TCU…etc want any part of this team at full capability for 4 quarters??
They don’t and if forced every HC of the aforementioned teams would admit as much
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One of the best things Dabo does is get the team prepared
Oct 26, 2022, 2:18 PM
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to play to a STANDARD every week, instead of hyping up any particular opponent. That is a MOST refreshing change from the TB years where his teams would play well (most times) against better opponents, and then get ambushed by dregs. If I never hear "We were just a play or two away from winning" again, it will be too soon. Whatever GOOD qualities Tommy Bowden may have had, and there were many, being a good gameday coach was definitely not among them. Never saw a coach with a more "deer in the headlight" look on the sidelines when things got tight than TB. He literally appeared lost.
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 2:25 PM
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Bama, UGa, and OSU - yep I believe they could deal with that. Been to the CFP before and won it or competed quite well in it.
Michigan - No...never seen them do it yet (not in the CFP era and not recently), and I doubt they are ready to deal with a defense like that. The OSU game may demonstrate this for them.
Tenn - skeptical... not much evidence of it to form an opinion. they did hang 52 on Bama and they look pretty good. But they did get 49 hung on them in the same game. UGa game will be very telling.
TCU - doubtful...not much to go on and no CFP experience. ESPN power index has them at 15. Big 12 team. they haven't played a defense like ours, their D doesn't look all that impressive.
the question to me is...if our O is clicking...what does that look like...ground and pound ball control?
What does a "clicking Clemson offense" do? Mostly run?
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 4:40 PM
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I’m responding here…before the thread was hijacked into a nonsensical hypothetical….
I’m more interested in what the defense looks like if they put together 4 quarters….
How miserable is that for the opposition?
If our D is at its best / less will be required of the offense …
Our offense clicking for 4 quarters?
I imagine a nice mix of rpo success, running success, and about 250 yards of efficient passing from DJU…to the tune of about 35-45 points and 500 yards…which will be more than enough if our D is performing at full potential for 4 quarters…
As far as my question- I think any of those teams would not be an easy out - but I suspect their HCs would rather see a whole bunch of other teams versus a Dabo Swinney coached Clemson team firing on all cylinders…
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 4:57 PM
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Honestly, I think a truly "clicking" Clemson O this year would be one of the most beautifully balanced attacks you could want.
Everything clicking: DJ dropping them in short and long, plus some running; Ship and Mafah grinding it out plus Ship catching passes; TE's and WR's hauling it in all over the field. (They've done it all already, just not in the same game or in the same series.)
I'd love to see it, sooner rather than later!
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 3:58 PM
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Trouble is that let's say that OSU does not lose a game, jawja does not lose a game, clemson does not lose a game, TCU does not lose a game...Bama beats jawja in the SEC title...now 13/1 x 3 sec teams in the SEC, Mich only lost 1...who goes to the dance...style points and bias are now key...we may be odd manout!
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Unbeaten Clemson gets in over unbeaten TCU every time.
Oct 26, 2022, 4:06 PM
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In whatever scenario one wants to dream up, an unbeaten Clemson is in the CFP final Four.
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B12 is the deepest conference in the country
Oct 26, 2022, 4:36 PM
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They go undefeated, they are in.
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Not over undefeated Clemson. Maybe they both get in.
Oct 26, 2022, 8:24 PM
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But, not likely.
If it comes to a choice between unbeaten Clemson and unbeaten TCU, Clemson wins.
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Re: In your scenario, you have UGA undefeated but
Oct 26, 2022, 4:12 PM
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That what coots do.
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Re: In your scenario, you have UGA undefeated but
Oct 26, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Play with their ######...after all they are chickens!
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Re: In your scenario, you have UGA undefeated but
Oct 26, 2022, 4:24 PM
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In conf championship game, tenn loses to jawja so has one...so none of you prospective voters believe that any one loss team in SEC is better than an undefeated Clemsom or TCU...you know it's so now who do you leave out and why...that's what worries me about the institutions bias!
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 4:30 PM
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In that situation 1) OSU, 2) Clemson, 3) TCU, 4) Bama (1-loss conference champion, the other two are 1-loss non-champions). Bama and TCU could potentially swap places for seeding purposes, but the 3 undefeated conference champs would be in before a 1-losser.
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 4:43 PM
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So in that scenario, there would be a 1 loss UGA, 1 loss Tenn., and a 1 loss Mich. looking in from the outside, even though each of their losses came against top 5 teams?
Not so sure both the ACC AND the Big 12 would win out in that situation.
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 5:08 PM
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I don't see any scenario where an undefeated 13-0 Power 5 conference champion would take a back seat to a 1-loss anything, regardless of who the loss came against. To me, losing to a top 5 team late only reinforces that one isn't top 4 worthy heading into the semis.
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 5:36 PM
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I hope you are right or it never matters but I remain skeptical of those SEC addicted pickers!
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Re: Another perspective on Clemson football..
Oct 26, 2022, 7:01 PM
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Hopefully we won’t have to find out.
Things will probably sort themselves out anyway.
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Yea, but you have to realize it's extremely rare for
Oct 26, 2022, 8:27 PM
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any team to play good all 4 quarters in any game.
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Re: Yea, but you have to realize it's extremely rare for
Oct 27, 2022, 7:11 AM
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If you mean a perfect game for 4 quarters I agree…that’s rare….
Performing to your capability in all three phases for 4 quarters though …Clemson has done that in the “championship phase” of the season…
This year’s team seems to put together a couple quarters a game and not necessarily in a complimentary way…defense on point for two quarters a game…offense on point for two quarters a game…and they’re still winning….
They have so much more potential than what they’ve done…
Dabo knows that ….he knows what it takes to win a championship…,
If we begin to more closely approach 4 quarters at our potential (of complimentary play).,,.
It will be fun to watch for Clemson fans …not so much for the rest…
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