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CU Medallion [56765]
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FBI?
May 15, 2022, 6:32 PM
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or New York State Police?
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Re: FBI?
May 15, 2022, 8:15 PM
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county sheriff too
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All this history and you think they didn't know?
May 15, 2022, 10:24 PM
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Come on. They knew. I know the article doesn't spell it out. Use a bit of common sense.
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Re: All this history and you think they didn't know?
May 16, 2022, 2:30 AM
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The FBI is comprised of incompetent, lazy, idiots. They are only the political police for the Democrat party now, aka Gestapo. They can only “solve” crimes if they have phone, email, etc. handing them the answer on a silver platter, or if they stage the event themselves.
Top. Men.
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These people are always hiding in plain sight***
May 15, 2022, 7:23 PM
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Re: Looks like the shooter was on the FBI's radar. What a
May 15, 2022, 9:11 PM
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And?
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Re: Does FBI 'set up' potential white terrorists? Yep
May 15, 2022, 9:54 PM
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Not suggesting that the FBI had set up this Buffalo shooter, or that the FBI had an agenda to 'let him do the shooting' instead of positioning themselves to intercede when they knew this guy was trouble.
At least I'm not suggesting a FBI set-up in this case.
HOWEVER, the FBI and their willingness to engage in corrupt behavior goes far beyond James Comey and the DJT / Russia Hoax, and also to far lower levels than that of highly placed political candidates.
Ever heard of Jerry Varnell (an Oklahoma wanna be bomber of a bank); this is from 2017.
Young man Jerry Varnell was (still is) a schizophrenic guy who lived at home with his parents. He had not job, had no car and could not drive (e.g., schizophrenic), had no money, pretty much zilch on everything. Yet he somehow came up with a bomb, a car, and a plan to blow up a bank.
The FBI had an 'informant' who was spending a lot of one-on-one time with schizophrenic J.Varnell in advance of the bombing attempt.
Magically, the FBI was able to 'intervene' and save the bank. Yay!
But the family and supporters assert (with logical arguments) that the FBI used their 'informant' as an influencer to excite a highly incompetent person, supplied J.Varnell with an automobile and the bomb, and pointed J.Varnell in the right direction to do the bombing.
Link is below. But there are far too many gullible Americans who want to believe that the FBI is clean ... had purged themselves of J.Edgar Hoover types, and that the FBI is a non-partisan law enforcement arm of the Fed. Gov't ... instead of a political strongarm organization when ordered to contrive cases to support a political outcome. OK, here's the link from ultra-left CBS news.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-fbi-knew-oklahoma-bomb-plot-suspect-is-schizophrenic/
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Re: Does FBI 'set up' potential white terrorists? Yep
May 15, 2022, 10:01 PM
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Re: Does FBI 'set up' potential white terrorists? Yep
May 16, 2022, 5:21 PM
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The Jerry Varnell case clearly wasn't just FBI incompetence. After all (after the FBI contrived and did the set up for the 'wanna-be-bomber'), then they 'saved the day' by stopping J.Varnell with the bomb on him before the bank was blown up.
Nah, this is a set up (actually, a competent [albeit evil] set-up).
The FBI also has a twin talent of incompetence, so the taxpayers get a two for one deal with the FBI.
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The FBI is notorious for setting up dopes for terror charges
May 15, 2022, 10:12 PM
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then claiming victory on "foiling" a plot. I dare say it is common, and judges are starting to see through the bs. Look at the trouble the State is having in prosecuting the Whitmer kidnapping defendants. So, I at least understand where Tom is coming from, but he is incredibly off here.
Firstly, the idea that a bored and angry young kid could become radicalized online, on his own, is not a particularly far-fetched or complicated idea. Do we really think 4chan is filled with a bunch of grown men? No. It's teenagers and young adults in a persistent state of arrested development. These people don't need the FBI to radicalize.
Second, even for as incompetent as the FBI is, radicalized a shooter is incredibly dangerous because the move from planning to execution can be near instantaneous. It's not like a "terror plot" that has a definitive date, and the perps are using duds provided by the FBI. I would like to think the Feds have learned from their gunwalking fiasco in Fast and Furious. But even if they haven't, this has no hallmarks of an FBI-driven plot.
Finally, the much easier theory to believe is Tom is slightly off his rocker at the moment, and is having trouble believing the fact patterns here for whatever the reason.
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Re: The FBI is notorious for setting up dopes for terror charges
May 16, 2022, 5:28 PM
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Excellent points.
Not asserting that the FBI set up or 'radicalized' the Buffalo shooter.
The point I was intending to make is to look deeper into every case involving the FBI along the lines of that old adage:
I'll trust you 100% as the baseline until you lie to me once.
But if you lie once, then that trust goes to 0%. I'll then scrutinize everything that you do or say.
The FBI has proven again and again that they are self-serving and politically driven. The entire FBI needs to be replaced with another Federal law enforcement agency, and then the FBI should be dismantled.
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Exactly. They have a proven history of doing this sort of
May 15, 2022, 10:27 PM
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thing, as was recently demonstrated with the Michigan governor kidnapping scam.
This dude was troubled, he was ripe for the picking, and the FBI took advantage. Why? I dunno. Who knows what their motives are. Ukraine is turning into a nothingburger so maybe that's it, but I have no clue.
Like I said before, I don't know the FBI caused this to happen, but I give it about a 70% chance.
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six months.***
May 15, 2022, 10:28 PM
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Re: Looks like the shooter was on the FBI's radar. What a
May 16, 2022, 12:03 AM
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I think this guy was just a crazy, confused, radicalized pu$$y with mental health issues.
However, the FBI doesn't get the benefit of doubt as they have radicalized people in the past. Just look at the Gretchen Whitmer attempted kidnapping. The FBI curated the entire plan, got some crazy's to get on board, and then swoooed in at the last second to save the day. It was reported as such and blamed on Trump right before the election. The FBI now works for the swamp and Democrats. It's obvious, and if you don't realize this, you are either a partisan or clueless.
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Yep. Maybe the FBI’s plan was for him to shoot up a church or something
May 16, 2022, 7:42 AM
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And the kid just happened to go to this store the day before and decide he was going to change the plan.
If that is the case, the FBI would never admit it. They’d just pretend like they never heard of him.
We know that isn’t true because he threatened to shoot up the high school.
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What the article actually says is that
May 27, 2022, 11:13 AM
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a RETIRED (non-active) former FBI member MAY (not confirmed) had advanced notice (30 MINUTES) of the shooting because he was allegedly (not confirmed) a part of the group the shooter invited to view his manifesto/details before it occurred, and that the nature of this relationship is still unknown (if it even exists).
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LOL, right.***
May 27, 2022, 3:22 PM
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