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Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 8:26 AM
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 8:47 AM
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Business is business, but to serve on a committee with Bob Bowlsby working hand in hand to expand the CFP and then to poach two of his teams is nothing but a back stabbing slime ball move. He's just an unethical piece of crap.
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A used car salesman.
Aug 26, 2021, 8:47 AM
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 8:50 AM
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Business is business and college football is big business!
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Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 8:52 AM
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He saw where the winds were blowing and was bold enough to make the first move. Acting rather than reacting. That's what real leadership does.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 8:59 AM
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ESPN had to be involved. Both sides needed to know what the payout would be. So ESPN had to give out a number. Is that tampering and influencing the structure of college football?
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 9:18 AM
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"Is that tampering and influencing the structure of college football?"
Tampering? Sorry but providing information about a possible future contract isn't tampering in any way, shape, or form. Also, no contract has been breached. OU and Texas chose not to renew, and that is wholly within their rights as stipulated in the existing contract.
Influencing the structure of college football? What does that even mean, and how is it illegal? Getting your fee fees hurt isn't a legal argument.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 9:36 AM
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What if ESPN initiated the idea by offering 10m per year more to each school in the SEC and to Oklahoma and Texas. I am not talking about breaking any laws. I am talking about ethics and realizing that there are problems and external interference with college athletics concerning tv networks shoe manufacturers etc.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 9:55 AM
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Sorry, but that's how big business works. As long as there were no illegal actions, which you've already conceded, then it's fair for business entities to actively seek out beneficial arrangements. Schools, conferences, TV Networks, and even shoe companies are all entitled to act in their own best interests as long as those actions are within the current legal and contractual boundaries.
For you to say that there are ethical issues with "problems and external interference with college athletics concerning tv networks shoe manufacturers etc.", I'm not convinced you have any valid point here. Ethically speaking things have never been better for the athletes now that the ball is rolling on fair compensation for their efforts. NIL is most likely just the first step here as the ethical pendulum continues to swing in favor of the athletes.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 3:15 PM
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Why not just chant SEC, SEC? That’s what you’re really arguing.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 4:21 PM
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OK.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 9:38 AM
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Maybe the problem is not that laws were broken but that there are no laws or rules in place to be broken.
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Re: Smartest man in the room
Aug 26, 2021, 9:59 AM
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Out of curiosity, what laws would you suggest?
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Agreement among the three conferences and such things as
Aug 26, 2021, 2:39 PM
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the CFP, and lesser bowl rotations for the Alliance and SEC. ESPN has a place in that discussion, but the three Alliance Conferences will not be breaking up to join the SEC.
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Re: Agreement among the three conferences and such things as
Aug 26, 2021, 4:21 PM
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You're putting a lot of faith into what amounts to nothing more than a gentleman's agreement. There's no concrete plan only vague platitudes. There's no contractual agreement binding any of the parties to anything at all.
It's naïve at best, arrogant at worst, to entertain the notion that any one of these schools or conferences won't jump at an opportunity they perceive to be in their own best interest even if it means breaking this gentleman's agreement.
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It amazes me how people act like certain things “had” to happen.
Aug 26, 2021, 8:59 AM
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None of this “had” to happen. None of this was inevitable.
There is value in amateurism at the college level. There is value in limiting transfers. There is value in smaller conferences. There was value in the college bowl game tradition. The idea that this is all “inevitable” or “progress” is contrived.
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Re: It amazes me how people act like certain things “had” to happen.
Aug 26, 2021, 9:23 AM
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That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Doesn't make it right or wrong.
The reality is however quaint all the valuable things you listed are, the real driver is and always has been money. None of the "values" you listed trump the almighty dollar.
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Clearly the university presidents agree with you and
Aug 26, 2021, 9:41 AM
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we will all get what we get as a result.
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If what you say is true, college football has lost its way.
Aug 26, 2021, 4:42 PM
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It's supposed to be about bright, motivated students who go to college to get an education, who also happen to play football because they enjoy it.
Thankfully, the ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 have banded together to stand up to the $EC and their lame attempt to control college football. It seems that there is still some shred of dignity and purity left in college football.
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Re: If what you say is true, college football has lost its way.
Aug 26, 2021, 5:23 PM
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Judge, you should read Justice Gorsuch's opinion of the Court to see how far from pure and dignified college athletics has always been.
His opinion starts on page 5 of the PDF:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-512_gfbh.pdf
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 8:56 AM
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Good business man.... Trying to interpret the future and make moves accordingly. Doing his best job for his conference. Would take him over Swafford every time! Wish there was a way to "cancel Swafford".....
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You know Swoffie's gone right?...or has news not reached FGF***
Aug 26, 2021, 11:19 AM
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Handsome?***
Aug 26, 2021, 9:23 AM
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 9:37 AM
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My guess is that OU and/or Texas was basically begging to bail on the B12 and he wasn't going to turn down a good deal. I am just waiting to see how Texas handles being "one of the teams" in a conference as you know, the SEC aint going to lift a finger about horns down. Normally the middle finger is pointed up in the SEC, but I guess they will make that exception for texas.
Texas bailing on a ship they sunk.
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Pawn…
Aug 26, 2021, 9:39 AM
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Who was used by ESPN so they could restructure bad contracts.
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 11:26 AM
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Don't care for him but he is doing what he is paid to do.
He is looking out for the SEC.
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Perspective.. you want him running your company
Aug 26, 2021, 12:24 PM
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You don't want him marrying your daughter.
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SKANKS!
Aug 26, 2021, 4:38 PM
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Re: Greg Skankey Your honest opinion
Aug 26, 2021, 4:59 PM
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Will save college football.
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