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Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of
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Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of


Apr 20, 2021, 5:10 PM

Murder 2nd, and 3d degree in the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis Minnesota....


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Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of


Apr 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

Let the riots ensue.

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Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of


Apr 20, 2021, 5:16 PM

I think that the results is to burn it down, right?

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Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of


Apr 20, 2021, 5:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of ]

No.

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classy


Apr 20, 2021, 5:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of ]

but not surprising

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 5:18 PM

I believe that he is guilty of Manslaughter bc, in no way do I believe he meant to cause Floyd to die!!!

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what does that have to do with the comment he made


Apr 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

about rioting?

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 5:56 PM [ in reply to Re: classy ]

Let me put my knee with all my weight on your neck for over 9 minutes and see what happens. Your crazy if u think he didn't know what he was doing!

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 6:17 PM

Not only the neck pressure, but watch how Chauvin was pressing his left foot into the pavement. He was vicious in his actions.

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 5:56 PM [ in reply to Re: classy ]

Let me put my knee with all my weight on your neck for over 9 minutes and see what happens. Your crazy if u think he didn't know what he was doing!

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do you even understand what he was charged with?


Apr 20, 2021, 5:57 PM [ in reply to Re: classy ]

There was NEVER a charge of intentional murder.

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 6:23 PM [ in reply to Re: classy ]

He didn't have to mean to cause the death to be convicted of the 2nd degree murder.

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 9:52 PM [ in reply to Re: classy ]

I tried to hold my breathe on this comment made by you, but you really think that derek chauvin unintentionally put his knee on Floyd's neck for 9 minutes and didnt mean for him to die.. pure ignorance and its quiet disgusting.

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Re: classy


Apr 21, 2021, 1:35 PM

That is ridiculous! He committed excessive force and possibly some degree of assault, but there is more than enough reasonable doubt that he should’ve been found innocent of all the charges in this trial. George Floyd was the one that would not get in the police car. George Floyd is the one that requested he be laid on the ground. George Floyd is the one that destroyed his heart with decades of drug addiction. George Floyd is the one that had enough fentanyl in his system to kill a moose. George Floyd is dead because of George Floyd. My take is not popular, but it is accurate! There is more than enough reasonable doubt for all the vertex to have an innocent. There is no evidence that this was done intentionally or unintentionally. If he was racist and wanted to kill him he would’ve thrown him on the ground and put his knee on his neck from jump street. He tried to put them in the patrol car and Floyd resisted. You people need to get your bias out of your minds and start basing things on facts!

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Re: classy


Apr 21, 2021, 2:34 PM

Why are you so angry? Here are the facts of charges

Second-degree unintentional murder means causing death without intent by committing a felony.
Second-degree manslaughter is causing death by unreasonable risk.
Third-degree murder means causing death by an “eminently dangerous” act, showing a “depraved mind.”

The felony for 2nd degree was the 3rd degree murder charge.

Your take is inaccurate. The defense proved beyond any reasonable doubt the charges. You are not judge and jury. You do not have all the facts. You were not in the court room. He was judged by a jury of his peers. He has the right of appeal. I assume he'll take it.

But a man died being arrested over $20. I am not claiming Mr Floyd didn't have a criminal past or long standing issues. But his death was caused by Officer Chauvin.

And i hope you calm down friend.

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Re: classy


Apr 20, 2021, 5:28 PM [ in reply to classy ]

Has nothing to do with classy or not. It’s happening either way. Maybe you don’t remember the history of similar events.

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explain your initial comment


Apr 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

and educate me...

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Re: explain your initial comment


Apr 20, 2021, 5:40 PM

Rioting and looting: Those convinced he is guilty with the propensity to act with violence in opposition will do so in similar fashion. Had he been acquitted, likewise. It’s a cycle perpetuated by large scale manipulation to ensure races stay divided in an effort to gain and assert political power. Your request for reference, LA riots of 1992. The unrest won’t take a break because he was charged. It will never be enough in one direction or the other.

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Was my answer


Apr 20, 2021, 6:36 PM [ in reply to explain your initial comment ]

Classy or nah?

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Good


Apr 20, 2021, 5:17 PM

There was literally nothing good that would have came from a not guilty verdict.

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Re: Good


Apr 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

Putting an innocent man in prison? That’s awful

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How is the cop innocent?!?


Apr 20, 2021, 10:16 PM

He held a restrained man down for nearly 10 minutes, with his knee on his neck while he begged for his mother and showed signs of trouble breathing.

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Well...except for allowing police to do their job.


Apr 20, 2021, 6:03 PM [ in reply to Good ]

No big deal, right?

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Re: Well...except for allowing police to do their job.


Apr 20, 2021, 10:34 PM

Police need to be able to kneel on the neck of a man who is already handcuffed and claiming he can't breathe for 9 minutes to do their job?

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Re: Good


Apr 20, 2021, 6:20 PM [ in reply to Good ]

Nothing except keeping an innocent man out of prison! Two Things, George Floyd was a career criminal, and he was committing another felony and while being arrested for this crime, resisting and filling his body with drugs to hide them, he did nothing wrong, right?l That's what wrong with America today, no one will admit to what the problems really are, they just want to find a way to blame someone other than the perp. We are no longer living in a democracy anymore, we live in a nation when Special Interest don't get their way, they take the law into their own hands. The sick thing, the politicians don't have the guts to stand up to the real problem. Antifa, BLM and all the other race baiters. Is anyone reading this stupid enough to thing Jesse or Al or BLM wants to end racial division? If you believe that, I have a Ocean Front lot in Arizona I want to sell you!

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Re: Good


Apr 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

Ok, he was a career criminal - does that mean a police office gets to be arrestor, judge, jury and executioner?

Y'all the protectors of babies and the children ... but god forbid someone steals $20. Kill em.

You should be ashamed of yourselves #JesusWept

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Re: Good


Apr 20, 2021, 9:58 PM [ in reply to Re: Good ]

I will agree Floyd didnt have the best past record, but you saying just because of his past that's reasonable for his death is sickening. What's wrong with America is people like you.

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Guilty on 3 counts


Apr 20, 2021, 5:17 PM

- Second-degree unintentional murder
- Second-degree manslaughter
- Third-degree murder

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Re: Guilty on 3 counts


Apr 20, 2021, 5:21 PM

That will get turned over in the Supreme court bc, I think they have already decided a case saying the the state can't stack charges in a crime where everything happens at the same time!!!

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Re: Guilty on 3 counts


Apr 21, 2021, 4:14 PM

Stacking refers to the type of repeated crime as well as the sentence, not just having multiple the charges. It is about multiple instances with a single "crime". Thus they can't take someone with no proir convictions and treat them as a multiple offended if they are accused of three separate instances. Thus they can't also take each of the guilty verdicts (if identical redundant charges) and add them up (ie stack). So you cant say three convictions for the same crime on different dates is 12 year penalty X3 = 36 years. However the government can bring forth multiple charges if the same event has different elements in the violation. See Blockburg vs US.

So yes, you can have multiple *distinct* charges resulting from a single "instance" For example, armed robbery with a illegal weapon can result in multiple infractions.

Really, the application to stack charges is either via a penalty (back in the 1930s) or to scare folks into a plea or make it more difficult for a defense to parse through the whole case.

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It is truly sad to say, but if that jury had found him


Apr 20, 2021, 5:21 PM

innocent, every one of those jurors would have had to enter Witness Protection to keep from being hunted down and probably killed themselves.

Also, that would have been the signal, of course, for more looting. Rioting is one thing, but I fail to see how a shooting, or a person being on trial, found guilty or innocent, gives anyone the right to burglarize someone's place of business. I have obviously not kept up with the times.

That is what this country has devolved into.

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so you have a similar post in your history regarding what


Apr 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

happened on Jan 6 right? I'm sure you spoke up about what happened that day.

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Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and


Apr 20, 2021, 5:35 PM

found guilty of sedition against the United States of America. And, I also admitting voting for him, twice, as the lesser of two evils. But, he went off the deep end when the second election didn't go his way.

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Re: Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and


Apr 21, 2021, 1:37 PM

That is utterly ridiculous. Please provide the facts that Trump committed sedition. Abraham Lincoln should’ve been lined up against a wall and shot for all the ways he #### on the constitution! Lincoln, FDR, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama, and Bush all #### on the constitution far more than Donald Trump!

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Re: Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and


Apr 21, 2021, 1:42 PM [ in reply to Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and ]

I agree Trump went to far with some of the things he said and did, but he in no way #### on the constitution nearly as much as many other presidents and the truth of the matter is Trump was screwed! Hollywood, the Democrats, big tech, the main stream media, people on social media, many many states changing rules at the last minute, illegally by the way, and did everything they could to rig the election against Trump! Trump was screwed every which Way but loose! Time magazine has even admitted it! So have others on the left! There are even plenty of progressives that I’ve admitted that it was far from a level playing field far from a legitimate election. That Trump was royally screwed! But no that doesn’t excuse everything he said and did, but to say he committed sedition is ridiculous and even Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi and other progressive journalists have said that Trump is not near the evil or the war criminal or the president even in recent years that was the worst offender of the constitution!

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Re: Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and


Apr 21, 2021, 3:52 PM [ in reply to Actually I did. Trump should have been tried and ]

I support you 110% 76. I would add anyone who seconded his message via known and recorded platforms.

Lowcntry - list listing off mostly modern democratic presidents (ironically missing JFK) does not work. All upheld the constitution 110% even if their policy development might come into conflict via interpretation. Not one has been openly combating any element of the constitution. Actually, if anything Nixon would have been the one that was lapsing in judgement although not strictly in violation (although again it would have been interpreted as in conflict) and some of the post 9/11 actions were extremely questionable. Again, there is a difference between both policy implementation and interpretation in the role and extent of the federal government (and that is why we have the courts).

However, trump actively and repeatedly shouted lies, false concepts of the constitutions, and actively tried to curtail constitutional freedom. He directed an armed mob to make war against congress.... you know, the authors on the constitutions and to both halt a constitutionally directed procedure and reject certified results of state elections.

Every single person that entered the Capitol should be brought forth to trail for treason and the applicable terror charges. Yes, some folks should see the death penalty.

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race riots were an every day things in the late 60s


Apr 20, 2021, 5:27 PM [ in reply to It is truly sad to say, but if that jury had found him ]

and early 70s

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Re: Its Just Truly Sad..... ---


Apr 20, 2021, 5:29 PM [ in reply to It is truly sad to say, but if that jury had found him ]

......that it has to come to all of this in the first place. No matter what side of the fence anyone stands on.

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^^^^ THIS ^^^^***


Apr 21, 2021, 11:51 AM [ in reply to It is truly sad to say, but if that jury had found him ]



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Officer Derek Chauvin has been found Guilty of


Apr 20, 2021, 5:33 PM

Not intentional murder.

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he was found guilty of second-degree UNintentional murder


Apr 20, 2021, 5:44 PM

there was never a charge of intentional murder.

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Re: he was found guilty of second-degree UNintentional murder


Apr 20, 2021, 6:00 PM

He will only have to serve time for one of the 3 convictions. Like I said in an earlier post, the state stacked charges in the same act of a crime, and the supreme court ruled that is stacking charges for a greater sentence, and that it wasn't legal. That is like charging someone with vehicular manslaughter, then charging them for each wheel that ran over the person killing them....


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The first 2 charges carry a maximum sentence of 12 years


Apr 21, 2021, 12:11 PM

each. The third charge carries a maximum sentence of four years (I believe).

The prosecution will argue that there are extenuating circumstances that merit a more severe (longer) sentence.

The defense will most certainly appeal the conviction and probably the sentence too whatever it turns-out to be.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Ok let me be the first to say


Apr 20, 2021, 5:59 PM

Wrong board Morans. JK, I couldn’t resist this one time. I enjoy reading just about anything and everything on This here board.

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I don't feel sorry for criminals..........


Apr 21, 2021, 1:41 PM

That cop was downright dirty. He had him on the ground and had plenty of time and help to cuff him and get him in the car.

Floyd was a criminal and always would be. He didn't deserve to die like that. He wouldn't have lived much longer doing drugs and living the life he was living. But the cop had no right to treat him like that.

People have every right to be upset about the mistreatment in this case. I just wish they would pick a better "face of the program" rather than floyd. I've always thought that hurt their cause. Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd aren't the faces I want on my cause.

But we need reform in our police. And on the other end our kids need to be taught respect for law enforcement and authority. Because things aren't going to change if both sides of the equation don't make changes.

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