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Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns
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Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 1:31 AM

after reading out loud a derogatory word off a player's iPad last week.

Sounds like most of the players wanted him to stay, but he decided to step down as he didn't want to be a distraction to the team.


https://twitter.com/OU_CoachGundy/status/1556483462919512065

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 1:35 AM

Very similar to the Pearman situation

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First thing I thought of


Aug 8, 2022, 1:44 AM

when I read this too.

Clemson was eviscerated by many in the media that story came out.

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Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 2:32 AM

of a similar situation.

Jay Bilas nails it here, at the beginning and especially at the 3:20 mark in this video.

https://youtu.be/Kqd3rL6s_3Y

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 2:28 AM

Yeah definitely. we should have forced Pearman to resign. Don't care about what actually happened, or the context. Its bad PR and a major liability in recruiting.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 3:34 AM

So stupid with that mentality. He was correcting a player as to what was not appropriate and regurgitated the word that expected players not to use. It was very much a teaching moment.

If you think anyone should lose their job because they were teaching inappropriate language like the word used by player will not be tolerated, then sir you are an idiot and a prime definition of the woke crowd.

Gundy should not be expected to resign as he was using this as a teaching moment but obviously could have used s better method obviously. He could have been reprimanded in another way but reading aloud the words of someone else in a coaching/teaching scenario is not worthy of a well respected person to lose their job and cause wife and kids to be punished as well. It's not like he used the word in a derogatory fashion and has the backing of all his players requesting him not to resign. It's obviously not a pattern of behavior.

This cancel culture and woke community love to see the pain and suffering of persons even if it's mot warranted. As long as it doesn't affect them then it is gratifying. But once it encroaches their world, they are not happy, just like the dem cities that are now getting buses of immigrants and they are requesting National Guard. It's ok for the cities in Texas/AZ to deal with immigrants just dont send to the NE.

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Re: A Weight Of Guilt Was Thrown On By Him As It Seems ---


Aug 8, 2022, 5:06 AM

As far as pain and suffering goes.....Why doesn't every neighborhood look the same?Why some houses are made out of just sheetrock while others in other communities are made up of the good bricks?

Wokeness could be productive in a lot of different cases........if they wanted to.

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Re: A Weight Of Guilt Was Thrown On By Him As It Seems ---


Aug 8, 2022, 7:17 AM

Not sure if this is a joke post or not but my guess the reason why not all houses look the same is because not all work days look the same. Want nicer houses, get nicer jobs. Pretty simple logic.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 7:47 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Exactly. Context matters. He wasn’t using it negatively towards someone and no way in H should he have to resign over the thought some thin skinned pathetic soul MIGHT be offended. People need to grow up and realize the real world requires you to sometime be able to handle the most minor of offenses without demanding heads on platters.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 9:06 AM

Who is in charge?

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 7:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

I agree. Throwing the baby out with the bath water. Player leaving as scholarship pulled for what he wrote? Of course not. Just a stupid overreaction.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 8:09 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

???

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" but obviously could have used s better method obviously."


Aug 8, 2022, 9:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

he didnt do anything wrong at all

i hate when we actually end up going to war and are forced to surrender because one of our soldiers mad fun of the the enemies mom and cried agouty it on tigtog.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 10:29 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Yea I do not understand the situation. Who cares? You read a word…if that is indeed what happened. Makes no sense like a lot of what is going on these days.

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MEG


Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 10:30 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Duplicate… apologies.


Message was edited by: rhpltmeg®


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MEG


Looks like he read it multiple times.


Aug 8, 2022, 5:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

and wasn't just an one time accident.


https://www.news9.com/story/62f169a7871a7e07274570c9/ou-coach-brent-venables-releases-new-statement-on-gundy-departure


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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 8:04 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]


Yeah definitely. we should have forced Pearman to resign. Don't care about what actually happened, or the context. Its bad PR and a major liability in recruiting.




This statement is the poster child for wokeness. Forget about trying to do the right thing for the people actually involved as long as the decision satisfies the MOB.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 9:42 AM

Stop the politics and your prejudice. You are much worse than whatever you think wokeness is? You are unwoke to any you disagree with so you label it. I don't think he should have resigned or been made to. So are the assistant coach and Venables woke?

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 10:33 AM

Wokeness is stupidity on most levels.

How is reading a word a liability.

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MEG


Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 9, 2022, 7:12 AM

To me personally, all the BS is getting out of control, a double standard should never be okay, especial when it's about using such a sensitive word as the N word, regardless of your your race or skin tone!!!

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 9:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Sorry man its not "woke", just is what it is. Unless the guys a hell of a coach he will be a liability competitively. You gotta cut bait, pay him a good amount to resign and be done with it.

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I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy that says


Aug 8, 2022, 10:04 AM

"Woke".

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Re: I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next guy that says


Aug 8, 2022, 10:14 AM

TU for SuperTroopers reference.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 10:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

How? What did he do to be a liability?

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 10:32 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Agreed… people are too sensitive to stupidity.

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MEG


Yeah, we should have made sure he was banished to exile in


Aug 8, 2022, 10:24 AM [ in reply to Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Siberia too I suppose.

Gee whiz, God help this country.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 8:08 AM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

#### Jay Bilas and everyone like him. :)

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 8:25 AM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

YOU, sir, are a complete freaking idiot.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 8:58 AM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

You mean when Dabo had his coach's back during a teaching moment gone awry, and didn't let outsized outside pressures force him into a rash and overly harsh move? If Dabo believed that Pearman's words were part of a systemic issue with him, I can imagine that would have gone down differently.

I'm actually surprised really that Venables would accept Gundy's resignation considering the circumstances being revealed. Not exactly a feather in his cap from where I'm sitting.

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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 1:02 PM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Garbage take and why we all just "can't get along". We cannot have 2 or 3 or 4 standards depending on who says what... it's either wrong or its not wrong. No one even knows what was said yet has an opinion on it. Dabo did the right thing Jay Bilas opinion doesn't matter, he can hold himself to his own standard... this is 1984 Orwellian societal norms that do not in any way end up well...

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No thanks. Jay Bilas is one of the all-time greatest


Aug 8, 2022, 2:08 PM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

doooooosssshhhhhhhh canoes in the history of television.



Could not pay me to care less than I already do about what he has to say about anything.

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Agree, Dabo did handle it poorly…


Aug 8, 2022, 2:12 PM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

Tried to hide it until some former walk on exposed it. Pearman was not racist and was correcting a player who said it, but Dabo could have at least addressed it at the time instead of waiting for it to blow up in his face.

Venables learned well, and even though I don’t agree with the resignation they were transparent about what happened.

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Bull ####***


Aug 8, 2022, 7:06 PM



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Re: Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling


Aug 8, 2022, 4:27 PM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

6 minutes I’ll never get back 2 clowns talking

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Its only cancel culture if you disagree.


Aug 9, 2022, 6:06 PM [ in reply to Venables learned from Dabo’s poor handling ]

But hey its ok to try and cancel an election. Just saying.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 6:00 AM

Gundy will want this encounter back for the rest of his life. This is a scenario that teachers come across everyday in the classroom. All the coach had to do was stand by that players’s chair, give him the stink eye, and move on. You never disrupt instruction. At the end of the film session, Gundy could have talked to the player one on one in private.

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What about the player ? This smacks of zero tolerance stupidity.


Aug 8, 2022, 6:01 AM



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hypocrisy is what it is


Aug 8, 2022, 7:32 AM



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 8:14 AM

It would be interesting to send some people back in time to the locker rooms I was a part of in the 70’s and 80’s…their freaking heads would explode.

It’s a messed up world when a person can read someone else’s words and lose their 30 year career instantly.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 8:37 AM

It is hard to believe that there are no repercussions for the player who wrote the words, only the coach who read them. It appears that the coach is well liked and respected, so I bet that player will not be a favorite in the locker room now.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 8:47 AM

Hopefully he realizes he was instrumental in ruining this guys career. I hope he is devastated. I hope his name comes out and he gets the wrath of OU fans until he is forced to portal.

Yeah, I’m sort of ornery today.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 9:02 AM [ in reply to Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns ]

There cant be as young black men use the word about a thousand times per day. Its in the music and guys like Dave Chapelle use in in every sentence. If the word was really hurtful it would not be commonly used by the people it is suppose to hurt.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 6:58 PM

Astounding that I have a really sharp mental picture of what you look like, just by reading this post

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And you wear a, "go cockks" t-shirt.


Aug 8, 2022, 7:08 PM

Speaks volumes.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 8:45 AM

Gundy was also reportedly accused of humming a David Allen Coe song during a team meeting

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 8:56 AM

I bet the shameful term was "work ethic", I've heard we're not allowed to say this anymore because it smacks of white supremacy, oops I don't think we're allowed to say that either. I resign from tnet.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 9:09 AM

Woke is in charge No more freedom of speech.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 10:35 AM

Joe Mixon teeeted out a letter strongly defending and supporting Gundy. Hopefully sanity will prevail and he’ll be allowed to continue coaching there. Nobody should have to lose his job (or have to offer a groveling apology as Gundy did) for reading a word aloud that someone else wrote, particularly not in that context.

Good thing Gundy didn’t read aloud the lyrics to many hip hop or rap songs - he would probably have to be publicly executed for that.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 10:37 AM

Hypocrisy at its finest. Ok for some but not for all.

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MEG


Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 10:38 AM

I’m embarrassed and saddened he felt the need to resign.

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MEG


Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 10:42 AM

well he made the right decision seems like he know what he said was wrong! good for him.. holding himself accountable.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 2:04 PM

It was not the right decision.

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Re: Cale Gundy, OU WR coach resigns


Aug 8, 2022, 10:45 AM

also it’s 2022 we know what word he said.. “its not hard for a grown man to read something, process it, and then not say it.. it’s a choice.”

probably gonna get TD’d for this because I know how some of you on this board feel hence some of your reactions ?.

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TU from me for the logic in your post.***


Aug 8, 2022, 2:15 PM



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This is so ridiculous!***


Aug 8, 2022, 7:03 PM



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Re: This is so ridiculous!***


Aug 9, 2022, 7:25 AM

Suck it up Bilas. Your opinion has no meaning. Hope it backfired on you. You r trash

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