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Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 4:11 PM
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Odds to win the ACC: if you take Miami, you pay $100 now, and get 100+570=$670 back if Miami wins. But, what does a NEGATIVE NUMBER mean? "Clemson -142". Certainly you don't put up $100 and take Clemson, and then if Clemson wins the ACC, you have to PAY $42 more because you won.??? Does it really mean, "You can't make this bet - too may people have already taken Clemson"?? That's what I'm thinking it really means.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 4:15 PM
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It means you pay $142 to win $100.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:10 PM
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TYGRRR, right off the bat, You explained it Perfectly!
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:30 PM
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After reading many of the replies in this thread, I am considering inviting many of you to a poker party. Looks like a lot of easy pickings here.
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A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:15 PM
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You get your $142 back plus the $100 winnings.
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:17 PM
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No No No!! I KNOW what you said is wrong: "You get your $142 back plus the $100 winnings." <=NO!!!
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:27 PM
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With +142 you put up $100 and get $142 back if you win, not $242. With your Miami example you put up $100 and would get $570, not $670. At + values your stake is included in the number.
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:35 PM
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WildBlu, I am certain that if you win a + Positive Odds bet, you get your $100 back PLUS the amount of the Odds. So if you take Miami at +570, and you WIN, you get your $100 back PLUS the $570 = $670. You've only really "won" $570 because the $100 wagered was yours in the first place (you get it back).
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:38 PM
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WildBlu, IF the Line for Clemson was +142 (not negative), and if you took Clemson and they win the ACC, then you would get the $100 that you wagered back PLUS the $142 you "won",or $242 total back into your account.
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 4:41 PM
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No, WildBlue what you said is wrong ("At + values your stake is included in the number"). Your WAGER (ex: $100) is separate from the Line number. You get your $100 wager back PLUS the amount of the Line, your net Winnings.
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 7:00 PM
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You're right. The plus side is the payoff on top of your stake. Not a bettor. I just know enough about it to be dangerous.
Here's a primer.
https://sportshandle.com/moneyline/
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 10, 2022, 8:57 AM
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With +142 you put up $100 and get $142 back if you win, not $242. With your Miami example you put up $100 and would get $570, not $670. At + values your stake is included in the number.
WildBlu , you bet 100.00 @ -142.00
You get your wager of 100 + your winnings of 142.00
Dollars after you win for a total of 242.00 - any juice your bookie keeps. Usually 10% ( only on the 142 winnings portion)
If your Bookie is allowing you to wager on credit and you win in that same situation , and you won ( your wager was made without giving physically the 100 dollars before the game was played) . Then you would only get 142.00 less juice in winnings back.
Some of you guys are really scaring me with these concepts . I beg you for your own self please stay away from a craps table.
-esso
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Re: A negative number means you pay that amount to win $100.
Jul 9, 2022, 8:12 PM
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WildBlu, now that I understand what a NEGATIVE Odd means, you were 100% correct from the Get-Go. I apologize for doubting you!
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 4:17 PM
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how can Clemson win the ACC when they are joining the SEC and BIG?
seems like a sucker bet to me….
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 4:43 PM
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We’re not joining this year, for this upcoming season. In regards to betting on us winning the ACC, our offense will determine how far we go. Championship D, but it can’t play 85% of the time with only a running game. We do have an option this year at QB. I wish DJ the best and hope gets on track. However, I would not put money on it. We’d win the ACC with an average offense.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 3:43 PM
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The answer is if you have Clemson at -142, you will lose $142 if Clemson doesn't win.
If Clemson wins, you keep the $142'you put up and you win $100. That's a net profit of $100 if you win. Lose, and it's a net loss of $142.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 7:18 PM
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If you wanted to bet $50, Clemson would be -71.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 7:50 PM
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WOW, Zee. That blows my mind (easy to do)... I thought on these kinds of bets, IF YOU LOSE, you only lose what you Wagered. The example is: Bet(wager) $100 and take Clemson -142. I thought that if you Lose, you only lose what you Wagered, in the case the $100 you gave them upfront (no different than if it were CU +142). What you're saying is totally different: you're saying if you lose (CU doesn't win the ACC), you lose your upfront $100 and have to cough up another $42 ($142 total loss). Maybe somebody can help us here.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:22 PM
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Bet 100 dollars @-142 and you get your 100 dollar wager back plus $70.42. So you profited only the 70.42
Bet 100 dollars @ +142 you will receive your 100 dollar wager plus 142.00 profit for a total of 242.00 , of which only 142.00 is profit.
Trust me
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:37 PM
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There is some really bad info being spread here. If you bet 50 the odds are still -142 .. you just have risked only 50 dollars and can only win $35.21
There are free odds bet calculators all over the web guys please learn how it works before you wager
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 9:47 PM
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EssoClub is right. -142 no matter what the wager. But if you wanted to net $50, you'd gamble losing $71. Right?
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 11:39 PM
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EssoClub is right. -142 no matter what the wager. But if you wanted to net $50, you'd gamble losing $71. Right?
No! If you want to bet 50 , you would only have an opportunity to $35.21on top of your 50 dollar bet.
Your win /loss is calculated on what you bet , not what u hope to win.
Now don’t forget there “juice” on your winnings . Think of it as a tax that the bookie or casino charges on your winnings . Typically 10%. So if your net winning on a bet was 142 dollars , bookie would keep 14.20 of your winnings . Not on top of losses , and no juice on your original bet . Just win you win.
Let me know when you are ready to graduate to Parlays and/or “if Bets”
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 10:05 PM
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Well EssoClub, If you look below, I've done it again. ?? Thanks for not ripping me a new one.
I will shut up now.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 10:00 PM
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cjgaddy, what you need to gather is on this particular bet, Clemson is favored to win.
Anytime you choose to bet on the favored team on a bet of this nature, you gamble losing more than you can win. If the odds are -200, you gamble losing $200 but would win only $100.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 10, 2022, 8:48 AM
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cjgaddy, what you need to gather is on this particular bet, Clemson is favored to win.
Anytime you choose to bet on the favored team on a bet of this nature, you gamble losing more than you can win. If the odds are -200, you gamble losing $200 but would win only $100.
ZeeGantt@, you still don’t get it . When the odds are -200 , you can bet any amount that your nook or casino allows. It can be from 1 dollar to thousands of dollars . The -200 is just a number used in the calculation . I really think that you are. Infusing people more than helping them. I do not mean disrespectful way. But your bet is your bet , you don’t pay any additional money if you lose, you just lose your wager.
Only exception , is if you win. Then your “juice” (10% of your winnings ) is deducted from your winnings.
You seem to be stuck on some other concept of how odds are used in gambling .
I advise you stick to blackjack and avoid sports wagering until you figure this out .
-esso
Message was edited by: EssoClub2®
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 10, 2022, 10:16 AM
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I'll just stick to games involving point spreads and pay the 10% juice when I lose.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:01 PM
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I FOUND THE ANSWER! => “If the odds are minus (–), then that amount of money must be wagered to win $100. (e.g. –150 means you must bet $150 to win $100). If the odds are plus (+), that amount of money would be earned on a successful $100 wager. (e.g. +150 means you make $150 on a $100 wager)”
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/what-does-plus-and-minus-mean-sports-betting
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:08 PM
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The final answer, per XBet:
The odds for favorites are accompanied by a MINUS (-) sign, showing the amount you need to stake to win $100.
Meanwhile, the odds for underdogs are accompanied by a positive (+) sign, indicating the AMOUNT WON for every $100 staked.
=> In both cases, YOU GET YOUR INITIAL WAGER BACK, in addition to the amount won.
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Re: Help/Betting Question: Clemson -142 to Win ACC
Jul 9, 2022, 8:42 PM
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My friend, my friend .... Sports betting isn't for you. May I interest you in some scratch offs. Help fund future Clemson student's tuition instead.
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