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The fix for college football seems painfully obvious to me and it's not expansion
Dec 22, 2020, 9:36 AM
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The obsession with automatic qualifiers and expansion is ridiculous. Notre Dame is nearly a 20 point underdog to Alabama and is probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the country. The goal of the playoff is to crown a worthy champion.
1) Cincinnati, Oregon, or Texas A&M is NOT beating Alabama!!!!!
2) More playoff games makes so many regular season games meaningless.
3) People have come to view New Year's Six day games as meaningless which is ridiculous. (Clemson went to 2 orange bowls between 1960 and the playoff era). It's a big deal.
My simple solution
1) Eliminate meaningless games against FCS schools. More Clemson vs TX A&M would have more ways to evaluate teams
2) Notre Dame joins a freaking conference. They would have lost to Clemson in the ACC championship game 3 years ago and freed up a playoff spot.
3) Eliminate divisions so the best 2 teams playoff on conference championship weekend. Alabama could have played A&M instead of FL and both would have has 2 losses with no argument to the playoffs.
4) The media should stop obsessing over the playoffs like its the end all be all. Finishing in the top 10 and going to a New Year's six used to be a big deal.
Why is this so hard?
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16 teams; P5 champs and 11 others determined by a BCS type formula
Dec 22, 2020, 9:48 AM
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No more than three teams from any conference can participate.
Yes, too far out there but needs to go to six and then eight at least.
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Re: 16 teams; P5 champs and 11 others determined by a BCS type formula
Dec 22, 2020, 9:59 AM
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If you had 6 teams in this year:
OSU vs Oklahoma: probably a decent game
ND vs A&M: probably a decent game
Then both of the winners would get absolutely wiped off the map against Clemson and Bama because instead of coming in with 2 weeks to plan and rest, they would be coming in beaten and bruised from a playoff game and be on shorter rest than the team with a bye.
This is the way it would look in most seasons as well.
6 won't produce better semifinals even though it will allow more mediocre teams to play closely contested games leading up to the semifinals.
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Re: 16 teams; P5 champs and 11 others determined by a BCS type formula
Dec 22, 2020, 10:08 AM
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I like four, maybe six. 16 way to many if you want to keep bowls. They will become even more meaningless. I don't know the right scenario, and no one else does either. But I'm willing to go with six, hesitantly.
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Re: 16 teams; P5 champs and 11 others determined by a BCS type formula
Dec 22, 2020, 10:10 AM
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Ok. I can go with six.
I’ll get to work on the PowerPoint deck.
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I've been pushing 6 teams on here for a couple of years.
Dec 22, 2020, 10:55 AM
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I sent a couple of posts on this over the last week or so.
The #1 and #2 seeds get a bye, and the #3-#6 seeds play in the first round. #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 play. The two winners then play; #1 vs the winner of #4 and #5, #2 plays the winner of #3 vs #6.
Nobody beyond the top six really belongs in the CFP.
That said, so far all but one CFP champ has not been either a #1 or #2 seed. No $3 seed has ever won the CFP Championship.
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Re: The fix for college football seems painfully obvious to me and it's not expansion
Dec 22, 2020, 9:57 AM
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You make some very good points;
1)You don't have to do away with every FCS game, but limit each school to just one, usually as an opener. It helps the smaller school with their athletic budgets.
2)Definitely make Notre Dame join a conference.
3)I agree with eliminating the divisions. Each team plays a 10 game schedule ,rotating teams each year.
4)Allow for the one OOC game, usually a rival like Clemson/Carolina, Georgia/Ga. Tech and Florida /Florida State. That gives you a 12 game schedule.
Then the top 2 teams from each play for the right to go to the CFP.
Of course that does cause a stir because of the 5 POWER Conferences.
So maybe you need a 6 team playoff ,with the top 2 teams getting a bye(someone else suggested that, not me).
I don't know. I'm just chiming in with my two cents, down graded to 1.5 because of inflation, or a Vegas point spread.
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Re: The fix for college football seems painfully obvious to me and it's not expansion
Dec 22, 2020, 10:31 AM
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Your simple solutions aren't so simple.
1) Eliminating FCS games eliminates an important source of income for these programs. It also does not force anyone to play a competitive schedule. There are plenty of teams in the Group of 5 and even the Power 5 for the upper echelon to beat up on. It might cause a bidding war to put Vandy on the schedule, but they don't need the money.
2) How does another round of playoffs make the other games meaningless? It might cut down on the importance of the regular season for Alabama and Clemson, but it adds to the importance for many more teams.
3) Rewriting the bylaws of the NCAA and related conferences, is by no means easy. As it stands the NCAA cannot force anyone to join a conference, and it has little that it can do to control those conferences. Add the BCS into the mix which is not a part of the NCAA and lawyers would be salivating at the fees that they could make for accomplishing nothing.
I understand your point, but I don't see an easy solution. Of course I am the odd person who is not looking to fix a system where we gain power every year.
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Here's how
Dec 22, 2020, 2:29 PM
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1) FCS teams could get a stipend from the NCAA for the additional revenue you get from better tv revenue and ticket sales for Clemson vs Texas A&M instead of Clemson vs the Citadel
2) Norte dame doesn't have to be forced to join just the option of not being included
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The only solution is no conf divisions and use the bowls for playoff games.
Dec 22, 2020, 10:37 AM
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And Rethink the whole NY6 philosophies.
We’ve proven that fewer games works. So we cut the regular season to 9 games. Then, replace 8 of the conference championship games for the 16 playoff teams. That leaves 4 bowl games for the elite 8 remaining. Then, you’re down to the same two extra games we currently have to determine a winner.
This method only adds one game more than the current regular season-through-playoff schedule we currently have.
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You are either the Champ, Playoff Contender or
Dec 22, 2020, 2:32 PM
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tied for last place or a coot
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