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Nov 6, 2017, 10:51 PM

I’ve been to multiple games at Carter Finley stadium and I have to say that this past weekend will probably be my last. I have been to several Clemson games there as well as VT and GT games against state. My in laws are all State fans and the wife a graduate of the university. I usually attend the Clemson game when played in Raleigh with my wife and her family every other year. The night before the game and the ride to the game all I heard from one of the family members was how the refs were going to call the game against state and that the refs, the ACC and the NCAA wanted Clemson in the ACC championship and the CFP. I have always been complementary to this particular family member on his team and have gone out of my way to bite my tongue over the last 7 or 8 years when hearing his backhanded comments and conspiracy theories about Clemson. I’ve heard it all. How we have bought players blah... blah...blah ...blah. I must have heard the story about how we supposedly bought Dexter L about 5 different times now. Well this past weekend I didn’t bite my tongue while at the game. I had 70 year old fans tell me I needed to sit down and shut the h3ll up for cheering on my Tigers. Had state fans dropping f-bombs and flipping other Clemson fans off in front of my 10 year old. This particular family member insisted all weekend before the game that we were cheaters and that we had the refs in our pockets. I’d had enough of all his propaganda bs and their sour a$$ fans so I made it known that I didn’t believe any of that crap and jumped all over him when we got flagged on a questionable call. He looked at me in disbelief and said very little to me the rest of the weekend. Wouldn’t even look me in the face. The other family members didn’t want anything else to do with me either. My state fan wife understood where I was coming from, sees my point and doesn’t blame me one bit for speaking up. The sad thing about it is that this delusional state fan is her dad. My wife and nephew are about the only mature State fans in the group so I try to be cordial to the others. Needless to say after my comment to the father in law on the bad call I am now the black sheep. The wife ain’t mad at me but it appears that her dad and uncle now have no use for me since I went against the family so to speak. I think it’s comical as h3ll. I bet if the outcome of the game would have been different I wouldn’t even be typing this. Have never seen such an immature group of people and sour group of fans. You would have thought I was at a UsuC game. After seeing the true colors of some of these State fans and some of the classlessness that went on first hand while at the game I think most of you would agree that state deserves everything they get. Could care less if they ever won another football game and it would probably be best if they left the ACC and joined the SoCon but I doubt they would even win a conference title there. What a bunch of losers.

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Nov 6, 2017, 10:55 PM

You getting together with these folks for Thanksgiving? Should be good times. :(

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Nov 7, 2017, 2:20 PM

Could slip a bar of Exlax in the FIL's dessert to make it a more enjoyable event. Evidently, he's full of it.

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^^ This says it all about "wanna be" NCst.


Nov 6, 2017, 10:58 PM

10 win season ONCE and have burned thru more coaches than Coots!

Hey, one even coached at both schools (Holtz)!

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Here, let me fix that for you.


Nov 6, 2017, 11:05 PM

I’ve been to multiple games at Carter Finley stadium and I have to say that this past weekend will probably be my last. I have been to several Clemson games there as well as VT and GT games against state. My in laws are all State fans and the wife a graduate of the university. I usually attend the Clemson game when played in Raleigh with my wife and her family every other year.

The night before the game and the ride to the game all I heard from one of the family members was how the refs were going to call the game against state and that the refs, the ACC and the NCAA wanted Clemson in the ACC championship and the CFP. I have always been complementary to this particular family member on his team and have gone out of my way to bite my tongue over the last 7 or 8 years when hearing his backhanded comments and conspiracy theories about Clemson. I’ve heard it all. How we have bought players blah... blah...blah ...blah.

I must have heard the story about how we supposedly bought Dexter L about 5 different times now. Well this past weekend I didn’t bite my tongue while at the game. I had 70 year old fans tell me I needed to sit down and shut the h3ll up for cheering on my Tigers. Had state fans dropping f-bombs and flipping other Clemson fans off in front of my 10 year old. This particular family member insisted all weekend before the game that we were cheaters and that we had the refs in our pockets.

I’d had enough of all his propaganda bs and their sour a$$ fans so I made it known that I didn’t believe any of that crap and jumped all over him when we got flagged on a questionable call. He looked at me in disbelief and said very little to me the rest of the weekend. Wouldn’t even look me in the face. The other family members didn’t want anything else to do with me either.

My state fan wife understood where I was coming from, sees my point and doesn’t blame me one bit for speaking up. The sad thing about it is that this delusional state fan is her dad. My wife and nephew are about the only mature State fans in the group so I try to be cordial to the others. Needless to say after my comment to the father in law on the bad call I am now the black sheep. The wife ain’t mad at me but it appears that her dad and uncle now have no use for me since I went against the family so to speak.

I think it’s comical as h3ll. I bet if the outcome of the game would have been different I wouldn’t even be typing this. Have never seen such an immature group of people and sour group of fans. You would have thought I was at a UsuC game.

After seeing the true colors of some of these State fans and some of the classlessness that went on first hand while at the game I think most of you would agree that state deserves everything they get. Could care less if they ever won another football game and it would probably be best if they left the ACC and joined the SoCon but I doubt they would even win a conference title there. What a bunch of losers.
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You could do that, it's simple. Just click on the enter button occasionally and white space will magically appears on the screen. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Here, let me fix that for you.


Nov 6, 2017, 11:12 PM

English class ?

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No, we have senior members here including me...


Nov 7, 2017, 4:20 PM

who have to do this in order to respect a poster by reading what he's written. There is no excuse for treating those of us with visual issues like we're not worthy of a click of the enter key every now and then.

It not about grammar it's about pure and plain consideration.

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It feels so good


Nov 7, 2017, 2:49 AM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]

To read that correction.

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Nov 7, 2017, 8:11 AM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]



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Not sure if I should complement you, or compliment you?


Nov 7, 2017, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]

.... or were you just fixing paragraphs?

BTW: Isn’t “I heard about....buying Dexter Lawrence” part of the topic or thought of the previous paragraph? Or were you just going for dramatic effect?

I could be wrong, however, as I wasn’t an English Major.

hth

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I'm not sure I give a rat's butt what you think, Bill.


Nov 7, 2017, 4:21 PM

J/K, you know you loved the c&p edit you old fart.

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Re: Here, let me fix that for you.


Nov 7, 2017, 9:46 AM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]

Haha. First thing I thought when I saw this wall of text, and remembered your teaching in this area.

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Nov 7, 2017, 11:37 AM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]

Both of y'all misspelled "Couldn't care less".

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couldn't care less


Nov 7, 2017, 2:38 PM [ in reply to Here, let me fix that for you. ]

couldn't

not could

but couldn't

If could care less then why don't you?

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I could care less about your response to my post.


Nov 7, 2017, 4:23 PM

I'll make sure not to repeat that mistake.

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Nothing wrong with a rant to the old father-in-law


Nov 6, 2017, 11:24 PM

Job well done!My son is in the process of applying to NCSU among others but these posts are making me have second thoughts.

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NC State hasn't been a conference champ in almost 40 years


Nov 6, 2017, 11:49 PM

I have no sympathy for the Wolfpack because of the way some of them act. I do have one State "friend" who explained their attitude as a manifestation of frustration which may be even higher than coot fans' troubled minds.

NC State has a very frustrated fanbase. They care more about football than any other North Carolina college.
Yet, they just cannot win a championship. It's been almost 40 years since they won the ACC football trophy in 1979.

Just like the NCSU basketball program, they WANT to be good...occasionally they are good, but rarely. They haven't won the ACC basketball crown in 30 years.

What makes matter worse is that many Pack fans are a reflection of their football coach. Always finding some Conspiracy Theory to blame for their losses.

They are so used to living in misery that they are super jealous that they never get to experience "the fun is in the winning"!



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Nov 6, 2017, 11:54 PM

Just tell them that it's strange that they see their side and forget that you care for your team just as much or more about your Tiger team, and in the same sentence mention that the people in their news feel that the puppies are rabid thugs foaming at the mouth when told they aren't that good, and they're no where close to being a team of Clemson's talent or caliber, and that we prove that to them year after year. And if they want to dislike you because Clemson has a much better FB program than they do, then have at it bc you only stomach them bc of the love you have for your wife! And that it isn't her fault that she has a large group of idiots for family members. My wife is from NC, and her family pushed me until I got enough of it and one day I went off the deep end with a crowd of them. They haven't mentioned sports of any kind to me since that day, and it's been 10 plus years ago. And I'm in my Clemson gear every single time they see me. The only thing my wife said was, I knew that was coming!!!

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Nov 6, 2017, 11:56 PM

Odd how fans of a team with a QB purchased at auction on the Collegiate free agency system think Clemson is buying players.

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Nov 7, 2017, 9:10 AM

I think that they should see that we haven't bought any QB's lately....

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Grow a pair and tell them to eff themselves until they...


Nov 7, 2017, 12:02 AM

...learn to be respectful.

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Respectfully, of course.


Nov 7, 2017, 8:33 AM

:)

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Re: Respectfully, of course.***


Nov 7, 2017, 9:16 AM





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Malarky? Oh, the Humanity, the Humanity...


Nov 8, 2017, 7:17 AM

:)

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TLDR but if I had to guess you're a


Nov 7, 2017, 12:04 AM

Journalism Major.

Am I right?

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Nov 7, 2017, 6:54 AM

Grasshoppah - One must learn to avoid those that continue to annoy. Grasshoppah has much to learn. Karate chops to the throat of those who annoy also works.

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Big Mistake. Apologize


Nov 7, 2017, 8:02 AM

He was wrong and you feel better for finally standing up to him. You have disrespected your wife's father in front of the entire family. He may be crazier than bat sh** but you shamed him in front of his family. What you should have done was make fun of his crazy theories.
You should apologize for being disrespectful and explain that you went too far as an opposing fan. He will probably appreciate your appology of respect and be less crazy in the future. This costs you little and can end up with a relationship that is better than before the event.
Do you really want your children's grandfather to have issues with you for the rest of time.

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Totally agree, with an ‘add’...


Nov 7, 2017, 8:46 AM

Football is just a game; family is FOREVER!

With that in mind, however, mutual respect, decency and courtesy cannot be neglected, either. The family needs to sit down and calmly discuss this. You must all agree that sports rivalries - much like religious, political, or ANY beliefs, opinions and ideas - and the debates thereof, need to be kept to a friendly discussion and/or level, and it is okay to disagree - without anger and animosity.

I know that can be difficult, but 2002x2’s last line is really important to consider and avoid!

hth?

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Re: Totally agree, with an ‘add’...


Nov 7, 2017, 9:25 AM

That is so easily said until you're the one dealing with those folks in Raleigh. My wife has a large part of her family in Greensboro, and a good many of them ended up in Raleigh. It's a night and day difference of their character between the two cities....

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Absolutely not, next time he sees him he should do this:


Nov 7, 2017, 9:48 AM [ in reply to Big Mistake. Apologize ]

Let him know who runs the family now.



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Re: Big Mistake. Apologize


Nov 7, 2017, 11:33 AM [ in reply to Big Mistake. Apologize ]

> He was wrong and you feel better for finally standing
> up to him. You have disrespected your wife's father
> in front of the entire family. He may be crazier
> than bat sh** but you shamed him in front of his
> family. What you should have done was make fun of
> his crazy theories.
> You should apologize for being disrespectful and
> explain that you went too far as an opposing fan. He
> will probably appreciate your appology of respect and
> be less crazy in the future. This costs you little
> and can end up with a relationship that is better
> than before the event.
> Do you really want your children's grandfather to
> have issues with you for the rest of time.

Disagree - respect goes both ways. Just because Grandpa is old doesn't mean he is right or presenting an example that you wish your children to follow. Grandpa was being an a$$hole to a particular family member in front of his children - that is unacceptable. Nope - if Grandpa/father-in-law is in the wrong then it is OK to check him on it. The children and family need to know that their son-in-law is not a servile dog to be berated at the pleasure of Grandpa and others simply because they outnumber him.

The preferable solution to all this would have been to discuss this in private with the father-in-law (tell him to knock it off) but if correcting the old fart in private was not an option then he got what he deserved. A son-in-law should respect his wife's parents, but that respect must be mutual or the relationship will never work.

If it were me, I would not apologize (unless I meant it) but instead have a respectful "one on one" sit down with my father-in-law and make sure he knows that I love his daughter and him (if true) but this BS of picking at me by throwing barbs at Clemson as a means to establish his alpha-dog status over me is unacceptable.

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They should respect him more for standing up for


Nov 7, 2017, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Big Mistake. Apologize ]

his beliefs. Would you like to put up with the BS every time the subject came up? Not like some casual acquaintance tha you rarely incounter.

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Gramps probably respects him now...before he was prolly...


Nov 7, 2017, 4:14 PM [ in reply to Big Mistake. Apologize ]

...thinking his daughter married a whimp who will not stand up for himself and now he understands his daughter is married to someone who will fight in what he believes in. {music from greatest american hero playing in background} He should now go over and shake gramp's hand and thank him for showing him the light.

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Holy wall of text...


Nov 7, 2017, 8:07 AM

This should keep those pesky Mongolians our for years to come, well done!

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Nov 7, 2017, 8:10 AM





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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Now that's a wall that Trump could use. TL;DR***


Nov 7, 2017, 8:11 AM



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There's something in these hills.


did you use to be a State fan?


Nov 7, 2017, 8:14 AM

did you graduate from Clemson? Have you been a Clemson fan your entire life, or have you "switched" since they have known you. You mention everyone else's background but yours.

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Nov 7, 2017, 10:10 AM

No. Never have been a State fan and I am not from NC. Didn’t attend Clemson either. The pa in law didn’t attend state. My link to Clemson is through family and friends that did attend Clemson and where I spent some of my youth. Just a fan all of my life. Pretty much the same affiliation that my father in law has with N.C state with the exception being he sent his daughter to school there.

I’d had enough of it all so I just spoke up. Maybe if I would have spoken up earlier in the relationship it would have gone a little differently but I’d never really said anything out of the way due to my efforts in being respectful to him.

Apparently he had no respect for me as a Clemson fan in the first place......??

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Re: did you use to be a State fan?


Nov 7, 2017, 4:27 PM

Join IPTAY. That’ll git em. Support the Tigers

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I have a similar situation as you.


Nov 7, 2017, 9:24 AM

Wife, state grad, FIL, state grad, BIL and his family state grads. I have degrees from both schools but I always pull for Clemson first. They, not my wife or FIL, used to give me a hard time until I pointed out to them I had more degrees from State than they had so please mind your manners. They've pretty much been polite since then.

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Nov 7, 2017, 9:25 AM

What a family! This is all over a game.

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Nov 7, 2017, 9:35 AM

So.... Do you think you'll get a Christmas card this year?
Or any year?

With so many seniors on the Wusspack Team it'll be a miracle if they even manage a winning season over the next 2 or 3 years.

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If you have a good kid out of that marriage,


Nov 7, 2017, 9:39 AM

don't have another.

Sounds like the odds against your offspring ain't too good.

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Nov 7, 2017, 10:50 AM

Unfortunately we have all been there

I hate going to games where you can't even cheer your team

I also had it happen when my kids were young unfortunately

GO TIGERS

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Nov 7, 2017, 11:06 AM

My middle son is a Freshman at NCSU and we live in Raleigh. He is sane, however, and I am trying to get him to convince others to adopt a similar sanity posture. :)

Having gone to the Va Tech game, the difference between Raleigh and Blacksburg is really hard to describe in words.

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couldn't care less


Nov 7, 2017, 2:37 PM

couldn't

not could

but couldn't

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... and everybody thinks I'm the grammar nazi***


Nov 7, 2017, 4:27 PM



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Nov 7, 2017, 2:54 PM

Bring weed brownies to Thanksgiving. Trust me.

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Double I'm in a similar situation


Nov 7, 2017, 4:09 PM

Only it's my own family, and they are all Gamecock fans. I especially hear it from my brother about how we are so lucky we are in the ACC because we would never survive in the SEC, even though I keep reminding him that the ACC has dominated the sec the last few years. I also remind him that Clemson played more sec teams than anyone else outside the SEC. And we are 4-0 vs sec since losing to Bama a couple of years ago. But he still runs his mouth.

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Nov 7, 2017, 4:36 PM

Not to worry, here's how you fix it with dad-in-law. When next you see him, embrace him warmly and whisper in his ear: "Last night I bent your NC State fan daughter into a nekkid pretzel."

He won't like you any better.

But who cares. :)

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Nov 7, 2017, 4:42 PM

As a father-in-law, whose daughter-in-law graduated from Georgia Tech and is a huge GT fan, I would never have said those things to her about the Yellow Jackets. I have way too much respect for her to have been so crass. For your F-I-L to have done that to you shows a lack of respect, and it is he who will suffer when his grandchildren think he is a cranky old curmudgeon.

I had to take this same cr*p from some of my Coot in-laws, but it was the ones that were close to my age and not from my wife's parents. Of course, I gave it back to them as good as they dished it out. One of the first big "dust-ups'" was Gardner's catch that set up the winning field goal!

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