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Quitting on your team during a bowl game
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Quitting on your team during a bowl game

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:35 PM

Let’s first start calling it what it is, quitting not opting out. And don’t try the argument that they could lose millions of dollars if they get hurt in a bowl game. They could be injured at the NFL combine or team workouts prior to the draft, but they show up. Heck, they can have a non-contact injury that could end their career.
Plus they have insurance policies that would take care of them the rest of their lives if they get hurt.
But maybe the way to fix this problem of quitting, is to pay the players for the bowl game. If they got a share of the bowl money then they may want to play.

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:45 PM

The sponsors would never agree to that. Takes some of their profit or write offs away.

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:45 PM

waterboyII said:

Let’s first start calling it what it is, quitting not opting out. And don’t try the argument that they could lose millions of dollars if they get hurt in a bowl game. They could be injured at the NFL combine or team workouts prior to the draft, but they show up. Heck, they can have a non-contact injury that could end their career.
Plus they have insurance policies that would take care of them the rest of their lives if they get hurt.
But maybe the way to fix this problem of quitting, is to pay the players for the bowl game. If they got a share of the bowl money then they may want to play.




If your going to quit - just don't start.

Worrying about getting hurt: just never play college ball then! Spend 3 years getting ready for the draft.
I'm told that's being "dramatic"! But, so is playing a full season and then carrying on like one game is going to "literally hurt you" when all the others didn't! It's non-sense and didn't happen for years and years and those players were fine.
(Insert the kid a few years ago example) - but, unless it's a career ending injury suffered in the bowl game - I am not buying it!
Scouts will already pretty much have a grade on you. Bowl games has done far more elevating of grades than it ever hurt draft grades!
It's unreasonable to think that you can play a season and be fine and that 1 game - finishing what you started - is going to be a deal breaker!

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Or maybe a "quitter" should return his scholarship money***

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:47 PM



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Dec 30, 2021, 8:47 PM

The principal of the thing is that most of these guys will never play in the NFL and these games may be the biggest of their lives. And for some of the schools it may be their biggest game. Announcers worrying about relevance while applauding laying out is a huge mixed message. If you care about your school and teammates you play.

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Economics of bowl games


Dec 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

Older article - but it explains some of the money.

I think the sponsors could break these players off with a portion of money. Nothing life changing; but something! Would it be enough to have a 1st rounder play; probably not. But, many of the opt outs know full well they are not Day 1 selections.

It might stop some of that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2014/01/01/do-the-economics-of-bowl-games-make-sense-for-schools-sponsors/?sh=38e8467213cf

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:51 PM

“They could be injured at the combine…” where they would be performing in order to gain draft position, something they would not be doing in the Garbanzo Effineffer’s Tidy Bowl.

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:54 PM

Anytime you are running, jumping, being physical and showing what your body can do - "you are at risk and are in fact showing a scout what you can do"!

Not buying it! Every year - "don't believe me wait and keep my post" there are several players who don't workout for scouts because they hurt themselves "training"! Every year w/o fail this happens. There are questions on if a player will or will not run the 40 or if they will do the bench press portion. Often they can't because they got hurt "training"!

Soft tissue injuries are most often non-contact - so the mindset that somehow in 1 more game with your brothers you will get hurt is totally irrational!

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They shoulda named it “wussing out” from the beginning.

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:52 PM

You’d see a lot less of it.

“Opting out” just sounds way too dignified. Who came up with that crapp?

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:59 PM

Not football related. But one I hate is multi-tasking. All this means is a worker has to do more and get paid exactly the same. Bullcarp!

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:55 PM

Man I was friends with some players who went to a bowl game a few years back. They got like $2500 dollars in gifts. New watch, PlayStation, clothes, shoes, etc. They get a nice gift package when going to a bowl. The nicer the bowl…the nicer the package. Plus a few all expenses paid trips out on the town during bowl week. I’d say that’s a good payday.

I don’t think paying college players is right. I don’t think NIL is right. These guys play football in college because they live the game. They play football in high school because they love the game. Most of them know they won’t have any future in it after high school or college. But they have an education. Of the ones who do have a chance to go pro NIL will give them a small sample of NFL money and possibly make them give up their education to pursue NFL and end up with nothing. It is not something that’s in the best interest of the kids. It’s a marketing ploy for the businesses or whatever to make more money off the kids. Do you think DR. Pepper will resign DJU after the year he had? Nope. So say it’s junior year and his money runs out and he enters the draft and doesn’t get picked up. Now he has no money. No education. And no scholarship to finish. There just so many cons to pros. It is sad.

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

#RunJumpCatch - I don't disagree 100%.

But, in keeping with trying to make the bowl games reflect the "whole team" that earned the right to be in that bowl game and reduce opt outs: "making an exception for bowls is bearable to me"!
You just stated it though - they basically already do this in terms of gifts and things - just flat out give them the money!
Maybe the player that's hoping to be drafted gets enough money for a nicer suit for draft day, LOL!

But, I understand where you are coming from!

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:43 PM

Spot on RunJumpCatch...absolutley spot on.

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:17 PM

Can see both sides, but I cannot fathom a future high end NFL pick sitting out, then showing up at the game, indifferent and oblivious. Then you top all off, by behaving like a camera seeking, attention w h o r e; which you are.

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Maybe a better solution…

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:26 PM

Is for the university to subsidize an insurance policy. I would expect that the probability of a career-ending injury in one game is low enough that a multi-million dollars policy would not be cost-prohibitive.
Personally, I believe that “opting out” is one of the most selfish acts a “team” player can do. A large part of your success is due to the guys you quit on.

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:32 PM

Wish I could TU this 100 times. I posted something very similar in the Kenny Quitkett post. I don’t know how some interior lineman that’s been protecting these guys doesn’t just bust them in the mouth. It’s 100% quitting and being selfish.

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:47 PM

The teammates have to feel that way don’t they? I remember when quitting was a disgrace. Has that changed?

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You will know them by their fruits

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:46 PM

If I were a scout I would be taking notes on who quits and who doesn’t. Let s face it, once a quitter , always a quitter. The game of football is not won by quitters at any level, and someone who quits on their team today would easily quit on the nfl team when “there’s nothing to play for”. Question is, how often do they decide when there is nothing to play for? Would you want to pay millions to a guy with this attitude?

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Dec 30, 2021, 9:59 PM

vfral1 said:

If I were a scout I would be taking notes on who quits and who doesn’t. Let s face it, once a quitter , always a quitter. The game of football is not won by quitters at any level, and someone who quits on their team today would easily quit on the nfl team when “there’s nothing to play for”. Question is, how often do they decide when there is nothing to play for? Would you want to pay millions to a guy with this attitude?




No, I wouldn't want to pay them millions.
The greats of the game give you the sense they would be somewhere balling "for free"! All of them! Lebron if he never made it would be somewhere in somebody's park or rec league tearing it up! Tom Brady would be playing somewhere - because they "love ball"!
To me these dudes don't love to compete enough! You've played an entire season - to I guess - selfishly use your teammates to get good video only of yourself! Not really for your school or your teammates apparently!
In one game. One game your chances that "that's the game" you suffer some significant injury is probably minuscule.
And as you put so well - "your teammates are the reason you are in a position to go to the NFL"! Now in Pitt's case, the WR Addison has a 3rd string inexperienced guy throwing to him. Hurting his chances of looking good for the scouts. Same for other spots with the inexperience at QB. And that's how you repay it!
It's wrong and irrational to be honest! The odds are slim to none you suffer some catastrophic injury that would not permit you to train for the NFL.

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