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Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...
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Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:40 AM
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Hey, why not? It's Sunday morning...

Some of y'all know (and some may not give a hoot in ####) that I'm one of those ink-stained wretches who threw their lot years ago into newspapers. This past week, the newspaper handed me (and a bunch of other folks) the option of walking away with essentially a sack lunch and a boot to the butt or working until the end of the year and THEN getting a boot to the butt.

No fool, I. A meager buyout beats continued servitude when the axman's block waits around Christmas. So, about the time the guys are gearing up to play SC State, I'll be cleaning out my desk. Alas, while I'm old, I'm not old enough to gad about until Social Security kicks in.

I enjoyed what I was doing, a lot. There was no math involved and the only heavy lifting was getting my sorry rear end out of bed in the morning. But, unless I want to plod along a few more years in one of our small-town papers around here (and I have no shame, so that's an option) it looks like there's a newly minted 60-yar-old on the job market.

So ... I'm interested in hearing how any of y'all handled a similar situation. Did you take some time to refocus? Jump right back in the game? Go to truck driving school? Limp by with weekly visits to the International House of Plasma?

What were some of the surprises, pleasant or not, that you encountered in suddenly becoming a man (or woman) of leisure? And how did you get back in the game when the newness wore off?

All reasoned thoughts appreciated.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:45 AM

Have you considered online tutoring?

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:55 AM

Faced the same at 58....jumped right back in and worked another 10 years at a job I would have refused in younger years. Long term, best thing that could have happened as the hated company had a great retirement program. Moral: If something comes by.......grab it!!!!!

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We're pondering some on-line options...


Aug 21, 2016, 6:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality... ]

...including one I cant believe anyone hasn't got out there already.

To do that, of course, means no company insurance ... but it's definitely in the mix.

Thanks!

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:19 AM

Don't dread retirement, grab it by the horns! Joining a Habitat construction crew has been one of life's most satisfying experiences for me.

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Any thoughts of teaching HS English?


Aug 21, 2016, 8:20 AM

Not sure about NC but SC has a pretty good lateral entry program and your real world experience would be very valuable. Plus, you'd get pretty good insurance until Medicare and SS kick in.

I'd hold out for a position where you would be teaching writing not necessarily the core lit classes (unless you would like that) and if it's a big enough school they would even have journalism as an elective for you to teach.

Good luck - I have a couple of former students that do pretty well freelancing so there's that route too.


Of course if B'miest and Crump have any sense at all, they will snap you up so fast your head will be spinning until the Coot game.

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Aug 21, 2016, 7:24 PM



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Got any business ideas? Follow your


Aug 21, 2016, 8:34 AM

entrepreneurial spirit! Now is the time.

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The year I was turning 55 I was given the OPTION of


Aug 21, 2016, 8:36 AM

changing to "part time" status and essentially doing all the same duties for less pay or to seek other employment. Of course, there was no "option" but to move on. Different field from you (education) but I kept doing what I was familiar with as far as job requirements go and have worked 13 years since . Making more money and having more free time to boot. Look around and maybe you will end up in a better situation than you can believe possible at this point. I was really upset at first, but it was the best thing for me in the long run.

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Re: The year I was turning 55 I was given the OPTION of


Aug 21, 2016, 9:05 AM

REV, this sure SUCKS BIG TIME!! best of luck to U!U might check with Crump just to be sure U are not missing what just might be a great situation!I only happened to me after I was 62 so I could retire. Retirement has been simply great!

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Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving


Aug 21, 2016, 8:37 AM

route. That will be one of the next professions to be automated away.

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Re: Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving


Aug 21, 2016, 8:46 AM

Agree. It's coming faster than folks realize.

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Re: Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving


Aug 21, 2016, 9:38 AM [ in reply to Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving ]

There's currently a massive labor shortage in that job market - if you can swing it, there's money to be made.

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That actually was my thinking...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:27 PM

Good driving record, knowledge of this side of the state and if the gig lasts 5 good years, I'll be golden. Gotta get the certification, though...

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Re: Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving


Aug 21, 2016, 10:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Unless you are a robot, I wouldn't advise the truck driving ]

Truck Drivers make good money. I know a few that aren't hurting.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:43 AM

I retired about 6 years ago at age 59, and I had no plans to go back to work. Fortunately, I had saved and invested wisely, and working was not mandatory. That is nice, but sadly, my guess is there are few who really have enough money to really enjoy retirement. About 18 months ago, a company needed a guy with my contacts and skills to take a territory where I live and had worked
and asked me to come to work for them. I have been back since then, and I must say I have enjoyed this more than my first gig where I spent almost 30 years. I don't know how long I'll continue, but it's been really fun.

Message to all who will listen, please budget, save and invest so you have that option of fully retiring, if you want, rather than find yourself at the mercy of a job market that isn't very friendly to folks who aren't spring chickens. Then, if you get an opportunity you like, it's your decision. I do wish you luck. Teaching may be a good option, and there may even be a technical college that could use your skills or an on-line college teaching opportunity. Also, tutoring isn't bad work if you have enough contacts. I hope you find what you're looking for soon, and the paper who cut you loose suffers through their mistake. Go Tigers, and God bless.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:43 AM

Rev, at our age, and if you still have dependents in the house, health insurance is a major factor to consider with the path forward. One of my little Tigers developed Type 1 diabetes at age 13. With out a new gig from 4 years before that had health insurance, I would have been in a major jam. Just something to consider.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 10:28 AM

Freelance/blog. Set up web page & write what YOU wanna. $$$'s on the net. Teaching also good.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:49 AM

Went through the same thing at 59 Rev. I'm 66 now and still at it. I took a three month sabbatical.....I could afford it at the time. I'm fortunate in the fact that I've really only had one vocation since I was 25, and not well known at all since it is B2B. There are basically two remaining players in the industry, and I chose the lesser of two evils. It's been a great choice for me. Although at 66 I'm way busier than I like to be, and work longer hours than I'd like to. I'm thankful. I've had to relocate twice, but landed in the Raleigh area for my final tour.

The main thing I learned is this.....use your contacts ! There is someone out there that knows someone else that can help you. Be persistent. When someone seems disinterested, sometimes it's because they're too busy at that moment.

Looking back over the last 7 years there's a lot to ponder. But all in all, it's been a pretty good ride. It's the uncertainty when you have to face it that sucks. Good luck to you, and don't discount anything or anyone that should stumble into your life, even if just briefly.

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That, alas is the problem in this bidness...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:34 PM

...all the contacts over the years have long ago ended up in the same boat.

Dang, didn't know you were in Raleigh! We're just own the road in Lillington!

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It hit me hard.


Aug 21, 2016, 9:07 AM

My circumstances are quite different from yours, Rev. I was 10 years younger than you are now and such a ########, unlike you.

After my eighth heart attack and second surgery I was still pretty sick. The cardiologist put me out of commission. I didn't get the message at first though one of my daughters took a week off work to spend with me. I reckoned the family was 'called in,' to say their goodbyes due to the attitudes and downturned faces. It was a time of recollecting myself and becoming settled in my condition.

That didn't last long though. A few years later and 50 lbs lighter I build a 5200sf house for a teacher in East Tennessee. I worked the saw table but I spent a lot of time on the floor and in the rafters too. I did most of the layout and sorted all the custom items by hand. Yes, God is good.

Under your circumstances, I insist I'm not pretending to advise, I would continue to work but take ample time to find another suitable job. The worst part of not working is not working, imo. It was a great factor in crushing my ego which played a major role in the destruction of my ~30 year marriage. I like the truck driving school idea. The only thing wrong with it is driving a truck.

You're on my prayer list now, brother. Think it through and follow your heart.

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Re: It hit me hard.


Aug 21, 2016, 7:39 PM

I got the a$$hat beat out of me long ago ... and having a wife in the same bidness was a major blessing, though proving to be a bit of a problem now.

I've got another week to decide if I'd rather stay, and generally be an attitude problem or go and develop an ulcer. Decisions, decisions...and I really DO like driving a truck.

Harnett County has an opening for one of their "drive old folks to the doctor" vans. It would be neat to chat with the old folks on the way. That might be my option and do some web work on the side....

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Similar situation back in 2000


Aug 21, 2016, 9:14 AM

in my case I was in a still expanding field instead of a shrinking one, so just started sending the resume all over. The area your field is expanding in is the internet. You could start your eastern NC website and impartially cover, Duke, UNC, NC State, and East Carolina, or work for someone who does. Putting up a website isn't too expensive, and as Crump can tell you it can make money. I'm sure someone in sales/marketing also is out the door so they could get some advertisers.

Remember you still have that Colorado vacation I owe you for Isabell.

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Believe it or not, that's an option...


Aug 21, 2016, 7:46 PM

...depending on who walks in Wilmington and New Bern along with Faynam. A sort of Carolina Drudge report is another possibility.

And it was a pleasure to help any way we could for Isabell. And heck, as a man of leisure (or soon to be) we just might be able to take you up on it!

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 9:21 AM

Maybe check out behind the scenes opportunities at local TV stations?
It's fairly apparent that some of them are in dire need of help with producing quality storyline copy.

I've also been through this, and was lucky enough to be able to re-tool careers via a short stint back in school.

The best of luck to you, Rev !

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I would think that there are a ton of young folks


Aug 21, 2016, 9:24 AM

cast out by the liberal revolution in this country

wandering about with little framework for how to live a meaningful life.

and wondering, just as you, what to now make of themselves

no doubt many are almost - truly almost - ready to listen to the dronings of, gads, a mentor-type.

recently I asked a College Counselor friend of mine

why she would willingly wade into the narcissistic, chemical-addled, cynical, fear-laden world of young adults these days.

basically her answer was, "Sure the road is always long, hard, and oft-truly-tortured.

But you can't imagine how momentous and joyful Graduation Day becomes."

As for the Rev, I'd say there's little doubt

that these young miscreants could do much, much worse than listening to a crusty old erudite fool such as yourself...

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 9:35 AM

:(

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I would be a school bus driver before trucking


Aug 21, 2016, 9:43 AM

In SC they have state benefits. Not sure about NC.

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"The one who thinks we can and the one who thinks we can't are both right! Which one are you, son? Which one are you, son?"


Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 9:43 AM

So sorry this has happened to you. But when God closes one door, he opens another. Go follow your passion and do what you have always dreamed of doing, if possible. But I sure hope Crump and B-Meist read this and hire you! You and D. Hood together would be an awesome duo. Will be keeping you in my prayers!

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Copy and sports wise, perhaps ... politicially


Aug 21, 2016, 7:58 PM

...I have a feeling we'll need to agree to disagree on some things. That's what life in the liberal media will do to you!

And you're so right about closing and opening doors. We just don't want to step into a broom closet out of a lack of faith and miss the door to the treasure house.

Prayers are certainly appreciated.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality... ]

Agree! Best blogging on the net is the Rev!!

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It hasn't happened to me (yet) but I have a plan.


Aug 21, 2016, 9:55 AM

While it hasn't happened to me (yet). I have thought a lot about what would happen should I need or want to continue working and something happened to my current position. My plan would be to attend some classes. As I understand it at 60 you can audit classes at public universities for free. There are many things I would like to learn so I would expect I could find something to take at Clemson. Just being on the campus around others who are learning and growing would help me keep a positive outlook. Who knows the career center would probably offer services (maybe for a fee) to help determine interests and what careers have the most promising possibilities.
Best of luck to you! Go Tigers!


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Re: It hasn't happened to me (yet) but I have a plan.


Aug 21, 2016, 8:02 PM

The wisdom of our NC legislators led them to slash our free classes from 64 hours to one -- count 'em -- one class. At the same time, they cut unemployment benefits from 26 to 13 weeks. I guess they're trying to chase all the unemployed folk down to SC?

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I've actually reinvented myself twice now.


Aug 21, 2016, 10:11 AM

I prepared for a career in ministry. BA, MDiv and DMin. 22 years in the profession. For reasons I won't bore you with, I entered the job market a few years back. One thing I learned very quickly is my graduate degrees weren't worth anything. I'm sure yours are much more marketable.

Anyway, I took a job at ETSU which was grant-funded. Of course, I was warned that the grant wasn't a guarantee and, of course, it wasn't renewed. Here I go again.

The job market is tough these days. At 60, there's not that much one can do. I'm in commissioned sales now. Basically doing what I have to to get by until I can retire.

I would think you'd have many more options than I. But life is good. Something will come along.

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The definition of awesome!


Rev, my neighbor retired at 60, but wanted to stay busy, so


Aug 21, 2016, 10:42 AM

he now works the floor at Home Depot and loves it. They actually have a program for hiring retirees AND he loves wood working, so he kind of gets to work around his hobby.

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Re: Rev, my neighbor retired at 60, but wanted to stay busy, so


Aug 21, 2016, 8:03 PM

I'll DEFINITELY check this out. They've gotten so much money from me over the years, it's only fair I get some back! Many thanks!

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If Heather Dinich can get a gig writing for ESPN.com, anyone


Aug 21, 2016, 10:23 AM

can.

Seriously, write about football online. You're good at it.

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Gotta work on my makeup, I guess ...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:07 PM
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Maybe I can be a weatherman?

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I was handed my walking papers a couple of years ago


Aug 21, 2016, 10:46 AM

and was blessed that my spouse has a good job and I was able to take an early retirement. I worked part-time at the local paper until my job was phased out. I'm probably filing for the early SS. I miss work, but its tough at my age to get a job.

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Rev, a few years ago, I tried the idea of self-retirement


Aug 21, 2016, 10:53 AM

after years of running my own business.

Problem was I quickly realized that the previous hectic work pace kept me eager, alert and fairly physically fit. Lady Luck stepped in and afforded an unexpected opportunity to help a close friend reinvent his retail business. Following a second "retirement," she again intervened and offered another similiar situation, upon which I pounced. And, thusly, I continue, nearly at age 70, charging full steam into the work market and enjoying every minute of it.

There will always be those who seek good folks like yourself who offer talent and expertise and that certain saavy that years of experience provides. You are the type of skilled artisan who will be invaluable to quite a good many people.

The question, of course, will be just how retired you wish to remain. I'd be willing to bet: not for very long. Best wishes to my good Friend, as always.

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That's another issue ... as some folks know


Aug 21, 2016, 8:10 PM

...we were the day and night help for my delightfully demented mother-in-law for more than a decade in addition to working full time. A LOT of things that need to get done here simply didn't have the time to get done.

A little time off to recharge sounds good ... eating ramen and cheap hot dogs doesn't. Just need to find the proper balance.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 12:12 PM

Rev, I'm 66 years old. Been there, done that.

From about the age of 50 on, I talked and planned to work until I was 70. My health was good, I liked my job and I saw no reason to stop working. I had done the math and figured out how much NOT working the last five years would likely cost me and my family. We are comfortable, but I thought a fellow was supposed to make hay while the sun shines. I told everyone my plan to keep working until age 70.

When I was 60 or so I noticed that most of the people for whom I'd worked most of my career were 1)retired, or 2)dead. It was apparent the place I worked those last five years would not be the same place I'd worked the first 40 years. Still, I stuck to my plan.

When I was 62 my company offered me an irrestible severance package and the promise of a lousy, different job if I stayed on. So I took the money and ran. I was reluctant to retire, but I could read the writing on the wall.

Well, retiring early turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me in my 'working' life. I went home and started to do other things. I have been able to easily visit and reconnect with pretty much my entire extended family, renewing relationships that were dusty and neglected. I started to visit my aging Mother 3 times a week. When she died last year I was overjoyed with those last 150-200 times we had together. I love to travel and have been able to hit the road and see a lot of things I had put off seeing for too long. Some people like to do lists and commitments. Others like me enjoy 'freer time.' I think both the 'stay busy' folks and the laid back folks can really enjoy and appreciate retirement. Yaknow, I had 3 MUST DO items on my list I made ahead of time for what I was going to do quickly. All three of those things are still on my to do list. For me, life had a nice way of filling my time with engagement and activities that now seem more important than anything I did while I was working. (Well, aside from making the money that makes retirement possible!)

So enjoy what comes your way. Don't refocus. Let life refocus you.

Good luck. I'm guessing these will be the best years of your life.

Harley

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Do those things you dreamed of doing as a business


Aug 21, 2016, 1:23 PM

There's also sales. Find items you collected over the years and sell for profit.

Set YOUR pace, not someone elses. Nor that of your checking account balance.

Have fun being a little reckless. Don't continue with 35+ years of regiment.
-Doc

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality... ]

You've always been one of the wisest voices on T'net, Harley ... and I sense there is truth in what you say. Those two years between now and early retirement would look mighty lean, though.

"Let life refocus you" ... I like that!

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You are a Reverend, find a flock and lead it! You come up


Aug 21, 2016, 12:13 PM

with the best sermons! Go preach brother.

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Aug 21, 2016, 6:59 PM



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Well Rev, don't feel alone.


Aug 21, 2016, 7:37 PM

I was told just this Friday that 9/30/2016 would be my last day. I am two years short of my planned retirement and had been with this company for 35 years. In a word, it sucks. I am planning on sending out resumes starting tomorrow. They did away with their engineering department two years ago and put me in an administrative position. I hated it, but was willing to do whatever to get to retirement. Then I was told Friday that "I was not a good fit for my position." Well duh. I was disappointed at first, but realized that it was a huge burden lifted off of my shoulders.

I am now going to go out and find a job enjoying what I like to do. I am really looking forward getting back into the engineering field. Long story short, get back out there and find something. Good luck to you!

PS, I have really enjoyed reading your posts over the years!

Go Tigers!

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I'll be two weeks ahead of you out the door ...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:19 PM

...but everything else sounds almost the same. And yep, the idea of spending the last few years doing something enjoyable will make all the difference.

Best of luck! First person to get a job buys the drinks!

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All in!


Aug 21, 2016, 8:52 PM

Keep us posted!

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:22 PM

Rev, it happened to me at the age of 49 after giving 27 years to a company helping build it from 8 to a 100 million gross in construction. Afterwards, I worked for several companies for 6 years even becoming President of the last one before deciding to take some time off. I moved to Clemson and went to all the games for a couple of years before getting back into the market as a consultant self employed. I now travel the country working less and making more. God is great and there are lots of opportunities for seasoned people if you are willing to adapt. I'm 61 now, in the best shape of my life and look forward each day to making a difference for someone. I count it as a blessing today that I was shown the door so many years ago.

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if you're as calm, level headed and motivating...


Aug 21, 2016, 8:52 PM

...as you sound in your TNet postings, you would make a great life coach or mentor. I wish you success in your next adventure.

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My Dad is a recent retiree


Aug 21, 2016, 10:18 PM

He started out helping people get their GED, was on a Habitat for Humanity board, and helped out our church where he could. Those things were mostly so he could stay busy between tennis matches with friends, so not sure if you want/need a major source of income, but he really enjoyed the GED work.

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Clemson


Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 21, 2016, 10:26 PM

You're a smart and talented man. There are many options. I'll list a few that may be up your alley.

Write for TigerNet
Start a cool blog
Speech writer for politicians.... I'm sure they'll look smarter with at the helm.
Start a tent revival, complete with snake handling and strychnine. ( my personal favorite)
The world is before you friend, I know you will excel at anything you choose to do. Best of luck.

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We do Chicken right...it's not just for frying anymore!


Already got one of those in the works!


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'Preciate the kind words!

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 22, 2016, 7:16 AM

Rev, I have no sage advice for you. Although, I can tell you that several of my coworkers who took early retirement packages at the same time I did wound up volunteering for Habitat for Humanity here in our town. Not a paying job, but something to occupy lots of time. One actually had gotten clinically depressed by sitting around doing nothing. Myself had another job literally fall into my lap the last week I was working, and retired for two whole days before becoming a contract Engineer. It is a definite truism that finding another job is easier if you already have one, so you may want to keep working at the one you now have for a short while until you find something else you like.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 22, 2016, 8:25 AM

I'm a lawyer. The fact that you can write and have a work ethic means you are have marketable skills that lawyers need. Most lawyers I know are sick of these kids who couldn't write if they were competing in a plagiarism contest.

You don't even need a paralegal degree. Look at government agencies around Raleigh hiring paralegals and assistants. Or small firms. Once the lawyers know you can string a sentence together, you'll get a job. And the job might even be interesting.

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Wow, sure are a bunch of old pharts here.


Aug 22, 2016, 10:38 AM

Sorry to hear about your being cashiered Rev. Gotta be hard to face here in your dotage.

I myself would love to quit my loathsome job and move on. I'll be 62 in a few months and will qualify for retardment but with one in college and another going into grad school, the money isn't there. Yes, they are on the hook for their own finances, but the wife can't cut the cord, y'know?

Good luck, and hope to see that you are the world's next billionaire.

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Budget cuts eliminated my job in June of 2009 but a month


Aug 22, 2016, 12:06 PM

later they offered me another (different) job. I absolutely hated the new one. I dreaded every day from August until December. I knew that wasn't where I was supposed to be and may even be preventing me from getting to where I was supposed to be. So I resigned...with nothing else on the horizon except a monthly drill check from the Army Reserves. It was the most "blind faith" thing I've ever done, albeit there was regular, heavy prayer.

Six months later, I reconnected with a former employer who hired me to take a position I had held ten years earlier. Two years after that, he retired and I replaced him as CEO, which was a job I had wanted for 20 years.

So what I'd say to you is that you can NEVER lose faith in yourself and the higher plan.

The other thing is that I spent so much time with my kids. I worked the Reserves enough to pay the bills month to month and spent so much time with the kids. Just hanging out.

So that's what I would say...keep the faith and love your family.

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Re: Question for y'all and pondering of mortality...


Aug 22, 2016, 4:20 PM

If I had your talent, (which I have enjoyed with your post over the year), I would definitely consider following in the steps of Lewis Grizzard, starting with a book of short stories about our Tigers over the years. (just a thought) Good Luck!

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