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Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:40 PM
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What is your personal opinion of it? I see it being glorified each year around this time and I thought that it was an embarrassment for the Tigers. We are Clemson. We're better than that.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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I loved it...we were both awful so the bowl ban meant nothin***
Nov 19, 2012, 2:42 PM
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Orange Blooded [2965]
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:43 PM
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I think your a coot! Their was no brawl! Clemson whipped them on and off the field and the coots started the whole thing.
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Letterman [277]
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I loved it! Adds to this great rivalry***
Nov 19, 2012, 2:50 PM
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CU Guru [1431]
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It was an embarrassment for both teams.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:53 PM
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Made both schools look bad.
Of course, I'm a lover, not a fighter, so I can't see the point in such silliness... 
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Legend [19586]
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^^another coot***
Nov 19, 2012, 2:54 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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you are? then why put your gf's picture as your avatar
Nov 19, 2012, 5:09 PM
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you should go ahead and learn to fight! with that as your gf, you evidently don't do good in that department.
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Legend [17753]
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Was an embarassment for both, but glad we kicked their #####
Nov 19, 2012, 2:55 PM
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after they started it.
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Standout [342]
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they started it and we finished it.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:56 PM
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They acted like the classless criminals they are/were
-standing at the bottom of the hill
-A number of late hits and personal fouls
-Got beat down and started the fight
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:56 PM
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I was a student at the game and I, personally, was not embarrassed in the least. When you look at everything that transpired throughout the game leading up to the brawl, South Carolina was trying their hardest to intimidate and play the aggressor. You don't let anyone come in your "house" and do that; but when someone does, you send a message. Emotions finally boiled over at the end of the game.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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It was an embarrassment for both teams.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:57 PM
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More so for South Carolina since they're the ones that instigated and then lost the fight, but it's an embarrassing stain to both universities.
And the kicker is how proud many Clemson fans feel over this picture:
It's embarrassing.
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Re: It was an embarrassment for both teams.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:33 PM
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It is if you are the guy getting your head kicked in. Take a look at how it got to that point. It was justified kicking the #### out of that coot in my opinion. Too many PC people in this world. You start something,you better be ready to finish it or accept the consequences.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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The fact is, only we know that he was being choked just
Nov 19, 2012, 3:45 PM
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moment prior to this picture. That picture is a stain and an embarrassment to our program, it doesn't matter if we believe he was justified in it or not.
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 2:58 PM
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It all started when the dirtpeckers tried to block the Tigers from running down the hill. After that all you need to know is that LOSERS START FIGHTS. Because of the media's love for loser lou, we were made out to be the villain, when in fact loser lou had lost control of his team.
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They got what they deserved
Nov 19, 2012, 2:59 PM
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They started the whole thing by waiting at the bottom of The Hill and trying to fight us as we were coming on the field. They were frustrated that they were getting the brains beat in all day long and a bunch of their thug backup players wanted to get on the field and that was how they did it.
They lost the fight and the game.
Yusef Kelly will always be fondly remembered for standing on the Clemson sideline holding up the helmet of a gamecock player like some bloody battle trophy and then heaving it into the stands.
#### 'em, that's what I say.
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Re: They got what they deserved
Nov 19, 2012, 3:06 PM
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Hahaha, I was in the student section when Kelly threw the helmet in the stands and the place absolutely erupted. One of my favorite game experiences of all-time.
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Orange Blooded [2213]
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One of the USC football announcers said that day....
Nov 19, 2012, 5:06 PM
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..something like "...well, there's a lot of orange in that pile..maybe *that* should tell you something about it...". They definitely wanted to blame Clemson for it...
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Athletic Dir [856]
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It's history. Time to stop bringing it up. I doubt most
Nov 19, 2012, 3:00 PM
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people in the country would even remember it if they aren't a fan of either school.
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It is an embarrassment for both schools.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:21 PM
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It should be one of those things that we pack away as "do not discuss." The fact that people bring it up in a celebratory manner or as something funny or cool shows a lack of maturity.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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let me guess,you were put on time-outs,right.
Nov 19, 2012, 5:13 PM
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nm.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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What a lot of people don't remember about that game
Nov 19, 2012, 3:27 PM
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Is that yes 63-17 was bad, but 2004 was much worse for the chickens as far as being dominated. I think they crossed the 50 a grand total of 2 times that day.
I guess being so jacked up trying to block us from running down the hill, thinking you were gonna do something with ya bad selves, then absolutely getting your skulls kicked in for another 60 mins just didn't sit to well with you coots. Cry me a river..
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110%er [6692]
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It was very embarrassing to have that happen to both teams.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:30 PM
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Nothing good ever comes from a brawl.
That being said they took things way too far, as many have discussed.
And when I was younger my father told me not to throw the first punch, but when someone swings at me to knock their @$$ out. I guess that's just a southern way of doing things.
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:30 PM
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I am all about the trash talking and bragging rights. Even scuffles between the teams during the game are acceptable. But the sc players were chippy because they couldn't stop us and this one took a turn for the worse when players started using helmets as weapons and kicking / stomping players heads. Personally, that was a black eye on both programs, however I don't think both should have turned down a bowl.
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Oculus Spirit [90819]
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:33 PM
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both teams lost minor bowls which was cr*ppy to say the least.
GoTiGERs....beat the #####!
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Oculus Spirit [90819]
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Really Seems Coots started the fight & we finished it, BUT..
Nov 19, 2012, 3:35 PM
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both teams lost a minor bowl bid which was cr*ppy to say the least!
GoTiGERs....beat the #####!
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All-TigerNet [11252]
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It was obviously Lou's fought
Nov 19, 2012, 3:35 PM
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he started talkin' and spittin' on evarbody...somebody tole him to shudup and spot the ball and then it started.
Cerialously they should have never let the two teams in contact with one another. Wasn't the chickens running out on the field when we came down the hill? Their fought!
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:39 PM
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All I know is: those dayum chickens had better stay the he!! away from the bottom of our hill when we come down.
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Re: It looked to me like two butt kickings.***
Nov 19, 2012, 3:39 PM
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Re: S Newton embarrassed the whole state, again.***
Nov 19, 2012, 3:41 PM
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I was there... I booed the whole time. I want to destroy
Nov 19, 2012, 4:01 PM
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the #####, but on the field, not in a street fight. It was an embarassment. With that being said, I am all for defending your teammate. But that still needs to stay on the field, not emptying the sidelines.
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:10 PM
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Newton and c$$t coach minter started the whole thing! louiseholtz had lost all control of the c$$t team and their natural thug actions took over!Tigers only responded
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Re: Question about "the brawl" in 2004.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:13 PM
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Lou recruited a bunch of thugs and like it or not when you have to fight, you fight.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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if they are waiting for us at the bottom of the hill, we
Nov 19, 2012, 5:11 PM
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should do it again. we won both the game and the fight last time!
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CU Guru [1123]
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What i want to know is...
Nov 19, 2012, 5:11 PM
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What happened to the helmet?
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One thing about that picture I've never noticed
Nov 19, 2012, 5:20 PM
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Is how one coot is sideways on the back of the other coot, but pressed firmly against his buttocks region. Were they doing "the helicopter"? SICK!
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CU Guru [1698]
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I was there. Got out of hand really fast. Neither coach
Nov 19, 2012, 5:19 PM
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had any control over their team.
Clemson won the fight and the game.
that's all.
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Lol great game
Nov 19, 2012, 5:26 PM
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That is another game I'm proud to say I was there for. Just like the 63-17 beat down and the 26-10 beat down of FSU
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Re: Lol great game
Nov 19, 2012, 5:48 PM
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there was no discipline whatsoever on that scu team as they waited at the bottom of the hill. where was lou and his staff? they did not care. that is the 2004 brawl in a nutshell. I blame Lou.
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110%er [8244]
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LOL "embarrassment for the Tigers"
Nov 19, 2012, 5:52 PM
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might want to talk with your cockerel's about that day they are the ones who got their acccces beat 3 times
before,,score and after game
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