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Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 6:37 AM
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than #2?
OK in fairness maybe the question should be has any set of Clemson players ever produced more "wow" moments than Tajh to Sammy?
But yesterday when they hit that 96-yard bomb I was talking to my wife and literally said "WOW". Said the same thing on Sammy's catch and run against UGA. And many times during his freshman year.
I have watched Clemson football since I was old enough to understand and that goes back to about 1974. I have seen some greats but never seen one like Sammy. CJ may be the only one that even comes close.
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When Tajh launched that bomb from the end zone and the
Nov 3, 2013, 6:46 AM
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cameras panned to Sammy, I knew that that was going for six. No doubt the Clemson and Virginia crowds knew it, also.
Sammy has produced a "Wow" factor; so did Nuk. Now, we're ready to see other Tigers step to the plate to keep us starry-eyed. And I'd venture that we won't be disappointed! GOOOOOOOOOOO TIGERRRRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!!!!!!!
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CU Medallion [55704]
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Nuk and Rod Gardner had some great catches but Sammy
Nov 3, 2013, 6:52 AM
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dazzles. His speed, the way he snatches the ball out of the air, and the way he makes people miss are incredible.
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Oculus Spirit [83064]
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And don't forget the non-wow moments. Getting 5-6 yards
Nov 3, 2013, 7:05 AM
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on those screens are almost gimmes now. Who else can do that, not just in CU history but anywhere and he does it over and over.
It's great having him set up 2nd and 5 or 2nd and 4 so much.
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Re: And don't forget the non-wow moments. Getting 5-6 yards
Nov 3, 2013, 8:22 AM
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great point. a lot of teams run those and you seldom see anyone do with it what he does. Normal guys get 0-4 Sammy routinely gets 6-10 or more
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Re: Sammy is a prototype WR but Nuk has better hands IMO
Nov 3, 2013, 8:36 PM
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Dabo obviously knows what he's doing. (not only as a recruiter, but as a coach) I would say CJ Spiller may have had more "wow" moments than Sammy Watkins, but only because Sammy had an off year last year. Clemson is very fortunate to have had either player, and both should be great ambassador's and recruiters for Clemson University.
If I was an NFL scout, I would draft Spiller as my ideal RB and Sammy has the hands and speed to be a great WR. (although he might lack some size at the moment) Our coaching staff has done a great job of recruiting and preparing a number of players for NFL careers. (as well as their collegiate careers)
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CJ Spiller
Nov 3, 2013, 6:59 AM
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both are all time Clemson greats
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Re: CJ Spiller
Nov 3, 2013, 8:05 AM
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Sammy is crazy good, but I also am going to have to go with Spiller. Maybe he just had more opportunities as a RB though. Sammy, you have a couple more games to change my mind...
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Re: CJ Spiller
Nov 3, 2013, 12:08 PM
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CJ on that screen play on the sidelines against GT when he juked 2 guys on the way to a 50+ touchdown.. was an OMG moment..
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Orange Blooded [2340]
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Definitely my alltime favorite play
Nov 3, 2013, 11:17 PM
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It looked awesome in the stadium, but once I got home and saw the highlights on TV, I was in awe. I still watch that play every couple of months.
Sammy is incredible, but I still say CJ was the most exciting player I've ever seen in a Clemson uniform.
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He also had that kick-off return with one shoe.
Nov 3, 2013, 11:37 PM
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Oh, that wow moment when he said he was playing one more year. Spiller had his number retired without all that much winning for a reason.
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Re: Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 7:02 AM
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Matter of fact, CJ has gave me the really W O W W O W moments with his speed and ability to make his opponents come out their shoes. Sammy is a great Tiger, but he is no CJ with me.
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Re: Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 7:03 AM
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CJ definitely would be up there. But on a side note, Hot rod will give you some broke angle moves. He just didn't against FSU. But am I right in saying hot rod can be a juke machine?
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Does defense count?
Nov 3, 2013, 7:19 AM
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If so, Keith Adams had a good many
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Re: Does defense count?
Nov 3, 2013, 7:24 AM
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Yep, and we had a few linebackers in '89 that would make an offense saw "Wow, that hurt."
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Oculus Spirit [83064]
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And Anthony Simmons had more than anyone on D in
Nov 3, 2013, 7:30 AM
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CU history.
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CJ & Woody. If Sammy touched the ball as much as those two
Nov 3, 2013, 7:23 AM
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he'd probably have more. Amazing to watch.
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CJ and Woody are the only two who could be in this
Nov 3, 2013, 7:29 AM
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conversation with Sammy. Best game in CU history?
1. Sammy against UMD in 2011, 345 all purpose yards, 89 yard KO return for TD, 70 yard KO return, 8 catches 105 yards 2 amazing TD grabs, 1 run for 33 yards
2. CJ against Miami in 2009, 310 all purpose yards, 91 yard KO return, 81 yards rushing, 104 yards receiving 1 TD
3. Woody against State and Phillip Rivers in 2001, 23-27 passing for 333 yards and 4 TDs, 184 yards rushing and two TDs.
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Woody was a pioneer.
Nov 3, 2013, 7:34 AM
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Heard him on talk radio a few weeks back. They were asking him if he felt like he didn't get a fair chance in the NFL and was it hard to see running QBs now being all the rage. He was very gracious in accepting that he may have laid the groundwork for what we now see in QBs at the college and pro level.
But yeah, he had some "wow" moments. That OT game at GT stands out in my mind.
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Re: Woody was a pioneer.
Nov 3, 2013, 8:26 PM
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Years before, and years after Woody played. I think he was the very best and toughest dual threat QB I have ever seen. To me, Woody was as tough a RB as there were out there, and he was a good QB at the same time. He could pass the ball 100 times better than any RB in the entire country. I say that b/c to me, Woody was a better RB than he was a QB. He was as good at making defenses come out their shoes as CJ was. Woody will always be mention with the Clemson greats.
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Woody was the Pack Killa
Nov 3, 2013, 9:50 AM
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He had some great performances. Plenty of WOW moments, but he also had several slap your head moments too. I would put CJ at the top: that GT duo who he schooled is forever etched in my memory. If Sammy touched the ball as much as him he could be at the top.
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Re: Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 7:33 AM
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C.J.
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Re: Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 7:35 AM
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For me Spiller is still the guy who made the most jaw dropping plays, followed by Sammy and Woody. I agree if Sammy got more touches he'd have more great plays, but remember CJ didn't get near the touches he should have his So. and Jr. years, so he could have had more as well. And in the return game it's not even close, so that gives CJ another feather in his cap above Sammy.
But Sammy is awesome in his own right, not taking anything away from him. No shame in being second to Spiller, and IMO both should have their names on the stadium one day.
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Problem is
Nov 3, 2013, 8:50 AM
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His wow moments only are against cupcakes.
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This ought to be real good. Please explain to me who
Nov 3, 2013, 9:06 AM
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you think the non-"cupcakes" are that we've played since Sammy has been here.
Please include the following in your reply:
2011 Auburn (defending nat'l champs) 10/155 and 2TDs. Also 44 yds rushing.
2011 FSU 7/141 and 2TDs
2013 Top 5 UGA 6/127 and a TD
Also, don't forget to mention that he was hurt (LSU 2012) or suspended (Auburn 2012) when we played some other tough games. In some of the others (USC etc.) he had a decent game despite not producing a "wow" moment.
I would challenge you to name ANY receiver in CFB more exciting than SW.
I didn't mention many of his other terrific games because you coots normally only think SEC teams and FSU are the good ones.
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ONE MORE THING
Nov 3, 2013, 9:10 AM
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Sammy is projected to be the 1st WR taken in the 2014 draft. Hard to believe the NFL would want a guy this badly that only performs against cupcakes.
Go back to FGF
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Woody D.***
Nov 3, 2013, 8:52 AM
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CJ for me..this is one of my all time favorites
Nov 3, 2013, 8:55 AM
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I'll never forget seeing this play live from the stands.....
Nov 3, 2013, 9:24 AM
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There is no play I've ever seen tbh that has made me just stand there in utter amazement like this one, the only thing that would have made it better is if Doc would have had the opportunity to throw one of his quotes on it!
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Spiller, but the youngsters might have a hard time
Nov 3, 2013, 9:28 AM
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remembering all the way back to 06-09.
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For me it's Woody, then CJ then Watkins. ******
Nov 3, 2013, 9:41 AM
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I still like the play against UGA the best in the way.....
Nov 3, 2013, 10:46 AM
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he faked that defender in front of him and then took off like a rocket. But yesterday was a classic also.
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The recent production of Sammy and Nuk has caused
Nov 3, 2013, 10:55 AM
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A lot of us to forget how truly spectacular CJ was
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CJ had a few more, but Sammy is the best WR ever at CU
Nov 3, 2013, 11:02 AM
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And all respect to Nuk and a few others, but the second best was Terry Smith back in 90-93.
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I'd have Smith #4 behind Sammy, Nuk, and JB.***
Nov 3, 2013, 11:53 AM
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C.J. Spiller......and rather easily.
Nov 3, 2013, 11:55 AM
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I love Sammy, but he is no C.J.
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Oculus Spirit [83064]
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Sammy is no CJ but CJ is no Sammy either.
Nov 3, 2013, 12:28 PM
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Still Sammy would be a better RB than CJ would be at WR.
Playing different positions it's hard to say buf if I'm starting a college team and could take either, it'd be Sammy.
Sammy more than any other player helped us get to the next level.
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Sammy never dealt with Tommy Bowden.
Nov 3, 2013, 3:41 PM
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Let's face it. CJ should have been the main man his junior year with senior Davis taking a much reduced role, but Bowden wasted many downs running Davis up the middle for one yard. CJ shoulda had two years of what he did his senior year. I would argue Tajh and Nuk had a lot to do with this "next level" talk as much as Sammy.....again, not ripping on Sammy. Love the guy.
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agree-but also should add Dabo to the equation.***
Nov 3, 2013, 5:23 PM
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Re: Has any Clemson player ever produced more "wow" moments
Nov 3, 2013, 4:14 PM
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Sammy's great but CJ was wow all the time. Greatest player we have ever had IMO
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Sammy makes it look effortless
Nov 3, 2013, 5:42 PM
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People forget CJ had a lot of face palm bad decisions running the football.
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Maybe, but that wasn't the question. Anyway, CJ had to work
Nov 3, 2013, 6:04 PM
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with our offensive line. Sammy depends on his QB, but obviously that's not a point of weakness at Clemson.
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#2 is spectacular but #6 and #28 are right there with him
Nov 3, 2013, 6:02 PM
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in terms of wow moments. Obviously all 3 have different skill sets but in my mind they're basically equals. Woody's right behind them, though his NFL kickoff return TD was as good as it gets.
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Something in my make up won't let me forget #4 to #15.
Nov 3, 2013, 6:14 PM
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Those were good times as well, but #2, #10, and of course, #28 have been very, very special.
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You're joking, right?
Nov 3, 2013, 7:26 PM
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With all due respect to Sammy- and he IS a great one- you sound foolish to even ask that question. Sammy is not CJ. No current or former Tiger is CJ. That is a fact and it isn't up for debate. You want to talk "WOW" factor? There simply is no debate.
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I'm not disagreeing, but
Nov 3, 2013, 8:39 PM
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Ellington's run against Auburn I'll never forget.
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Re: I'm not disagreeing, but
Nov 3, 2013, 8:59 PM
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Butler's catch against the gamecocks will always be number one with me. The ball that Steve Fuller threw him seemed to be fifteen feet over his head. To this day, I still cannot believe that he caught that ball.
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