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Whale, whatever percentage you are going on

Apr 19, 2018, 5:30 PM [ in reply to You're talking about a total of ]

They make up probably half of the construction industry. I know hundreds come to SC annually to pick Peaches. I can name the farm, but won't. They clean my house, and almost everyone's house I know who has their houses cleaned. They make up a HUGE sector of the service industries. Harder the job, the more dangerous the job, the higher their percentage among the employees.

And black people HATE them, almost universally. Like racistly even. My son has two illegal alien children in his third grade class.

And they are a big deal because they displace jobs Americans used to do, and they undercut wage growth because they will work for less knowing their dollar goes father when they send it back to Mexico or wherever. And if you want to know how little money it takes to live in the US, they can live here on $10-$20 a day, literally. Send the other $100 they make back home.

And, they are averse to filing insurance claims when injured. They also are very skilled at working the system in the construction industry. They will take out a worker's comp ghost policy, then use that COI to bid on a huge project, like masonry work for a new high school. Then since they only paid $1K for their WC insurance with coverage for 1 employee, they present a very low bid and win the job with their COI. Then they hire 30 buddies to come lay bricks and hope no one gets hurt. If someone does, they leave the country. Then someone else comes back and they continue. So Joe's masonry, with 50 employees and paying $35K a year in WC premiums loses the job to Jose's masonry who bids half the price because they're only paying $1k in premuims versus $35K.

Upside to this is your high school gets built cheaper. Downside is less Americans are employed and less American companies are winning bids. The money in the construction industry LOVES illegal labor. But the average American, and especially black people who used to do unskilled labor jobs, come out on the short end.

And from a macro-economic perspective, illegal labor also keeps inflation in check, which the rich, and especially politicians love because that means they can lend more money, and our national debt is serviceable. Next to "free trade", illegal domestic labor is perhaps the second biggest deflationary pressure we have on wages and income.

So yeah, it's a big deal, even though we have no border in SC there are many thousands here in SC.