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One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team
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One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Feb 28, 2023, 7:35 AM

Interesting

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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team


Feb 28, 2023, 7:36 AM

What’s your point bud

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Hey bud!

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Feb 28, 2023, 7:43 AM

My point is, this is one of Brownell's best teams and it's on the bubble for the tournament. I can explain it again if I need to.

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Re: Hey bud!

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Feb 28, 2023, 7:51 AM

Administration gives reward compensation for making the NIT. Mediocrity is an acceptable outcome. Re-write his contract and change the mentality. Raise the bar.

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Bonuses are thrown around like beads at Mardi Gras...

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:34 AM

which doesn't make it acceptable, it makes it the way of the world in compensating coaches, especially at Public Universities. Base Salary is laughably low compared to overall compensation, so rewards play a big part. There are layups of sorts, doesn't mean they are acceptable and the notion Brad would still be here if NIT was the only postseason on his resume is mockable. It's bad enough he's only been to 3 NC2As in his 12+ years.

As for the NIT part, it's reported he would get $15,000 for winning the NIT. Maybe you have something that shows he gets $5,000.00 for making it? It's possible, and one of those notable compensation layups if so.


https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-basketball/news/brad-brownell-receives-contract-extension-with-clemson-38822




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Re: Hey bud!

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:38 AM [ in reply to Hey bud! ]


My point is, this is one of Brownell's best teams and it's on the bubble for the tournament. I can explain it again if I need to.



You made an observation but what point did you unsuccessfully try to make by posting an observation?

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That the max capability of a Brownell team may be the bubble

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:42 AM

Where it probably should be the minimum expectation. Hope that helps.

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Re: That the max capability of a Brownell team may be the bubble

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:02 AM

Guess you did not realize it’s a program issue and not a coaching issue. Glad I could help

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Re: That the max capability of a Brownell team may be the bubble

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:29 AM


Guess you did not realize it’s a program issue and not a coaching issue. Glad I could help


Give it up with the program issues. The coach is average. Brownell gets paid good money you act like we have the worst facilities in the ACC.

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Re: That the max capability of a Brownell team may be the bubble


Feb 28, 2023, 11:12 AM

rhpltmeg® said:


Guess you did not realize it’s a program issue and not a coaching issue. Glad I could help


Give it up with the program issues. The coach is average. Brownell gets paid good money you act like we have the worst facilities in the ACC.




He may be but the program has been a little less than average for a hundred years and we have done little to improve the program. We did build a new facility a few years ago as the old one was rusting out but spent very little of the money on player related amenities.

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I'm confused. The "program" is to blame, not the coach?***


Feb 28, 2023, 11:32 AM



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The program runs itself? Probably need to hire a coach***

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Feb 28, 2023, 10:00 AM [ in reply to Re: That the max capability of a Brownell team may be the bubble ]



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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:27 AM [ in reply to Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team ]

Bud… it does not get any clearer than the OP. You are free to interpret it anyway you want to.

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His point is Brownell succks***


Feb 28, 2023, 11:24 AM [ in reply to Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team ]



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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Feb 28, 2023, 7:41 AM

Unfortunately, pretty much all of Clemson’s best teams have been bubble teams. Certainly closer to “bubble” status than automatic qualifiers.

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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team


Feb 28, 2023, 7:45 AM

I would classify your post as a mic drop to the OP.

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In what way?***


Feb 28, 2023, 7:47 AM



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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team


Feb 28, 2023, 9:30 AM [ in reply to Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team ]

sadmba said:

I would classify your post as a mic drop to the OP.


??

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72Tig­er, CobbOx, and JK aren't going to like this.***

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Feb 28, 2023, 7:56 AM



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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


No one

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:15 AM

Forces you to watch these games or even pretend to be a fan of Tiger basketball. If it is that disappointing to you perhaps you could find another team with a better coach and a greater chance for success.

When was the last game that you saw in Littlejohn? Was it a good experience for you?

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bold statement so need to check your facts


Feb 28, 2023, 8:57 AM

No one Forces you to watch these games or even pretend to be a fan of Tiger basketball.

I went to Google and they confirmed this is true. .


I didn't check the other sources of absolute truth; Reddit, TIg TOg, Twitter, and Facebook.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


I have only missed a handful of a home basketball games...

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:27 AM [ in reply to No one ]

in the last thirty years, and the vast majority of those were because of work-related travel or COVID. I can't even begin to count the number of road games that I have attended during that same time frame.

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Re: No one

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:36 AM [ in reply to No one ]


Forces you to watch these games or even pretend to be a fan of Tiger basketball. If it is that disappointing to you perhaps you could find another team with a better coach and a greater chance for success.

When was the last game that you saw in Littlejohn? Was it a good experience for you?


I would classify it as the opposite. Being a die hard Clemson fan, why settle for what we have had the last 10+ years.

I’m going to pull for them either way but to pretend we have the best we can get is insane.

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Re: No one

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Feb 28, 2023, 11:15 AM

I don’t think you have ever heard me say that the Tigers are the best they can be. We all know that isn’t true.

As for this year I think that the team has performed better than many,including me, though
they would. The Tigers can get better and I’m going to stand by them while they are doing this.
The game in Charlottesville will be a very tough game to win but I’m going to remain being behind this team and the coaching staff. This team gives its all every game. I like that

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I used to it by now

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:44 AM [ in reply to 72Tig­er, CobbOx, and JK aren't going to like this.*** ]

Daily bashing of the Clemson basketball program and CBB. The losers just need to go back to the Lunatic Fringe Clubhouse. Or go sniff some more football jocks because that's the only thing they understand.

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So you accept this level of succrss in your businesses?***

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:48 AM



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Do we need to put a note in your file...

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:29 AM [ in reply to I used to it by now ]

that you don't work and play well with others?

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Re: I used to it by now

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:45 AM [ in reply to I used to it by now ]

Sorry @Cobbox I am having to constantly TD you on the grounds of insanity, and the calling of those that expect more “losers.”

According to your pulse I may not be the only one.

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Re: I used to it by now


Feb 28, 2023, 11:21 AM [ in reply to I used to it by now ]

🤣🤣🤣 right on cue.

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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:14 AM

The Portal has changed the game from top to bottom. There are probably 100 teams that can win on any given night.

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And FIFTY PERCENT of those teams lose every night.

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:35 AM

Thanks Grass muncher, play sheets down your Pants Guy.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: And FIFTY PERCENT of those teams lose every night.

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:39 AM

😂😂😂

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Feb 28, 2023, 11:23 AM [ in reply to Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team ]

🤣🤣🤣 parrot!!!

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After 13 years - why is this surprising?

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:15 AM

Status quo.
Even if we get in - and Brad saves his job - do we really expect anything to change?

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Ultimately...you are what your record says you are.***

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:23 AM



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Re: After 13 years - why is this surprising?


Feb 28, 2023, 9:24 AM [ in reply to After 13 years - why is this surprising? ]


Status quo.
Even if we get in - and Brad saves his job - do we really expect anything to change?




this year we are top 4ish in the league which is a change from previous years. It would help if you paid attention before posting.

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Yet making the NCAAT is still a long short for this team.


Feb 28, 2023, 9:33 AM

Que the "there is more to a successful basketball program than simply making it into the NCAAT" retorts.




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Re: After 13 years - why is this surprising?

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:33 AM [ in reply to Re: After 13 years - why is this surprising? ]

Well if we are top 4ish why are we currently looking in from the outside. I will answer…the top 4 in the ACC is not what is used to be.


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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team


Feb 28, 2023, 8:16 AM

unprovaBLE. ONLY THE COMMITTEE DECIDES THIS STUFF.

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Have you seen any projection saying we're in?


Feb 28, 2023, 8:21 AM

The projections this time of year are usually pretty accurate. Everything I've seen and read suggests we're not even in the 1st four out.

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This team is not mediocre

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:42 AM

This team is going to finish in the top 4 of the ACC with 20-plus wins. That is not mediocre. What we have now is a tournament selection system that rewards "good" losses. There is no such thing as a "good" loss. CBB will be back. He has built a solid program. It way past time for some of you losers to recognize the work he has done.

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I'm sure he will be back, this is one of his best teams

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:45 AM

A top seed in the NIT probably. That's good stuff

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This has to be a troll post. No one is seriously this stupid, right?

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:00 AM [ in reply to This team is not mediocre ]

Top 4 of a league that has a whole two ranked teams! Holy **** strike up the parade!! Hang the banner in littlejohn! Built a solid program??? TF are you basing that asinine comment on? I swear you are mentally damaged.

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Don't forget though - WE are the lunatic fringe . . . .***

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:36 AM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: This team is not mediocre

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:42 AM [ in reply to This team is not mediocre ]

We have recognized his success and would like to move forward in his removal.

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Yet making the NCAAT is still a long shot...

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Feb 28, 2023, 10:30 AM [ in reply to This team is not mediocre ]

largely because of inconsistent play and a handful of bad losses which has been more the norm rather than the exception throughout CBB's tenure.

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Correct, the most successful ~59%

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Feb 28, 2023, 12:55 PM [ in reply to This team is not mediocre ]

Clemson coach in history. whoop! Lifetime contract baby, yeah.

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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:47 AM

Well, interesting or not, Brad said himself this was the best, most experienced team he's had. That was in late January. So self admitted this is his best. And it is from an acc win perspective. Only time will tell how it ranks.

That said, it does come with a caveat. The ACC is a different conference. It's down. As for net ranking, the acc has Duke at 25 net as the highest ranked team. That's never been the case in acc history. No disputing that.

Every time I watch a Clemson sports event, I'm pulling hard for them to win. That has zero to do with wanting to see a change in coaching. My personal opinion, long overdue.

Just as Monte was let go, it all comes down to what Dabo says. Consistency. Consistently being competitive and competitive for championships. 13 years of Brad, Consistency is definitely there. Consistently being on the outside looking in.

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Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team

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Well, interesting or not, Brad said himself this was the best, most experienced team he's had. That was in late January. So self admitted this is his best. And it is from an acc win perspective. Only time will tell how it ranks.

That said, it does come with a caveat. The ACC is a different conference. It's down. As for net ranking, the acc has Duke at 25 net as the highest ranked team. That's never been the case in acc history. No disputing that.

Every time I watch a Clemson sports event, I'm pulling hard for them to win. That has zero to do with wanting to see a change in coaching. My personal opinion, long overdue.

Just as Monte was let go, it all comes down to what Dabo says. Consistency. Consistently being competitive and competitive for championships. 13 years of Brad, Consistency is definitely there. Consistently being on the outside looking in.


You do know your views mean you are not only a lunatic but a loser…

It’s all good, great read and I’m right there with you!

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Feb 28, 2023, 10:03 AM [ in reply to Re: One of Brownell's best teams is a bubble team ]

Well said Clemsongal. I think a majority of tnet agrees with you.

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


After 13 years...In the worst year for the ACC in memory...

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:55 AM

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Exactly!

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Feb 28, 2023, 8:55 AM

12 or 13 years in. It’s just sad.

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Re: Exactly!

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Feb 28, 2023, 9:51 AM

People defending it is laughable but sad at the same time.

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Many of Clemson's best teams are bubble teams.***

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Mar 2, 2023, 1:02 PM

You don’t know spit about college basketball, moron. This isn’t a bubble team they’ve won way more than enough games in traditionally the best conference in basketball.
I love Clemson but y’all have a lot of ####### fans.

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