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Offensive staff should have been completely gutted...

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

not promoted.

DJ and the OL development is a coaching responsibility.

I disagree with Dabo on the Streeter hire.

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Re: Offensive staff should have been completely gutted...

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:02 PM

I don’t think Dabo really cares what you agree with.

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And I don't can if you agree***

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:03 PM



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Re: And I don't can if you agree***

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:26 PM

And I don’t care that you don’t care…..

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Nor do we***


Dec 29, 2021, 11:08 PM



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Dec 29, 2021, 11:55 PM

Dabo is not the only one - the list is long and distinguished.

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:32 AM

Is there any reason that the fan base is not using the name “Big5Stinko”? I’ve heard a bunch of people using it and was wondering why it hasn’t been posted here. To be clear, it seems a little unfair, but just thought I would pass along since the Tiger community seems to be using it everywhere other than this forum. Thanks!!

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Probably not using that nickname because it is

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:42 AM

stupid and mean-hearted.

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Re: Offensive staff should have been completely gutted...

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:04 PM

I disagree with you.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:49 PM

I can hardly look at Tigernet anymore!! Shameful! Negative everything!!!

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You do realize no OC can change the QB’s abilities***

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:05 PM



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Two possessions=5 runs UP THE MIDDLE

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:09 PM

LOL

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Re: Two possessions=5 runs UP THE MIDDLE


Dec 29, 2021, 10:01 PM

And = win.

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Re: Two possessions=5 runs UP THE MIDDLE

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:38 AM

Our D carried our team all year.

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Re: You do realize no OC can change the QB’s abilities***


Dec 30, 2021, 8:40 AM

Thos x 1,000

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what were you expecting?

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:05 PM

An entirely different look with the same personnel? minus the ones that couldn't play due to injury and illness.

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I know, right? Some posters on here are football geniuses.


Dec 30, 2021, 8:47 AM

Not really...

Our starting center was out for the bowl game. It was only fitting that we finish the season with a patchwork O-line. I thought the offense looked as good as could be expected given the available personnel.

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:06 PM

Watch out you might get attacked by all the t-netters who trust Dabo. Internal hires paid off on the offensive side, right #########?

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

Tell em floss coot.

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Boyfriend's pubes...?***


Dec 29, 2021, 10:05 PM



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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you


Dec 29, 2021, 10:18 PM

1969.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:27 PM

Do you floss after you peck?

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Jan 1, 2022, 2:55 PM

??????????

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:31 PM


Watch out you might get attacked by all the t-netters who trust Dabo. Internal hires paid off on the offensive side, right #########?


Yea no need to trust a man with Dabo’s track record SMH. One of the dumbest posts I have read today. Congratulations and good luck with UNC.

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You good with the D hires?***

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:10 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: You good with the D hires?***

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:16 PM

D looked great tonight FM! Especially with Skalski down in 2nd half.

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No doubt.***

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:32 PM



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Do you care?


Dec 29, 2021, 9:48 PM

Or does your TNET whatsapp group care either?

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You seem like you’re on edge…


Dec 29, 2021, 10:07 PM

We can talk football another time.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


What are you talking about?


Dec 29, 2021, 10:45 PM

Not one of your best troll efforts. Breath, then try again.

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You did not answer the question I asked…

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:49 PM

the response you did offer was unintelligible, and you are TDing posts that simply ask a question.

Seems like you’re on edge.

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Re: Do you care?

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:15 PM

PBT - with everything going on and the opt outs, transfers and Covid cases - I thought we had a solid gameplan.
Do you not give them the benefit of the doubt because of those things?
Were you thinking it was going to be totally different in 3 basically 3 weeks one being a travel week?

There wasn't enough time and available players to evaluate this offensive staff. Not enough competition at the QB position either. Who would have played if DJU got hurt?

So, to me you must grade on the curve if you consider all of the above. It's simply too early to say if it was a bad hire in my opinion.

Just wondering if you considered those things; not trying to be argumentative?

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Good post. Probably not a lot of wholesale changes CBS


Dec 29, 2021, 10:50 PM

could make in 3 weeks. This is probably the reason that promoting from within a failing offensive staff is a bad idea, to begin with.

All these people defending Street are the same ones giving the offensive staff a pass for not developing who they have.

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The staff messed up recruiting DJ

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:16 PM

Simple as that. An undeniable fact.

I don't blame them for DJ's failures. He's a broken, empty shell now and it isn't because of coaching.

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Re: The staff messed up recruiting DJ

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:44 PM

The staff messed up his recruitment? He was the #1 or #2 QB in the class by every service. Every single program would have taken his commitment. Development when on campus, maybe? But there are so many variables and he didn’t have playoff caliber talent around him on the offense.

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

IT really don’t matter if you or I agree with any hire. How many 10win seasons have you had? I have nt had any either but until I see different I’m with Dabo

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

Leave please. You offer nothing credible. Both coordinators showed promise you are just a miserable person looking for company

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:37 PM

I also disagreed with the Streeter hire, however, I'm not a coach with two national titles and 11 straight 10 win seasons....so I just have my opinions, but Dabo has the credibility,

So trust it

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Sorry if I triggered you


Dec 29, 2021, 9:39 PM

maybe you can find a safe place where everyone agrees with you.

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Re: Sorry if I triggered you


Dec 29, 2021, 10:14 PM

Now that’s funny. Try Tic tok.

Idk, strange times and strange situations. How many teams have replaced OC, DC and AD within the end of the season. Could have done a lot worse. Just my opinion but personnel changes would have a greater impact than coaching changes.

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:28 PM

Thank you Coach ???????

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:31 PM

Why not wait until Cade arrives before judging the abilities of the offensive coaches. Sounds as though we will be getting a new OL coach.

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I get that but the draw plays and nothing new?

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Dec 29, 2021, 9:41 PM

Part of being a good coordinator is working with what you got. I didn't see any creativity tonight. Maybe you disagree.

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Re: I get that but the draw plays and nothing new?

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:08 PM

Don’t know why game you were watching. Very different on offense. Shipley drifted into the flats on almost every pass play giving DJ an outlet. That was something that we hadn’t seen all year and I think it made DJ more comfortable. He extended several plays and improvised more than any other game this year. The “chest pass “ that Shipley dropped was a thing of beauty on DJ’s part. Y’all need to watch the game.

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No misdirection, no zone holes found, nothing other than


Dec 29, 2021, 10:12 PM

very basic swing passes and one failed trick play.


The two draw plays were stupid.

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Re: No misdirection, no zone holes found, nothing other than

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:17 PM

The TD Shipley scored on wasn’t a misdirection??? Everyone went left and Shipley went right. Pretty much the definition of a misdirection.

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West Virginia had misdirection, our 2 TD performance did not


Dec 29, 2021, 10:27 PM

I mean your argument is really weak when that's your only example of us out-coaching IS.

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Re: West Virginia had misdirection, our 2 TD performance did not

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:34 PM

You have a no fact answer for everything don’t you? The screen passes to Shipley and Pace in the first half were new wrinkles as well. Maybe you should watch the game in slow motion so you can understand.

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Are you only disagreeing with me about the wrinkles?


Dec 29, 2021, 10:38 PM

Or that Streeter didn't bring anything of worth to this game?

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Re: Are you only disagreeing with me about the wrinkles?

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

I’m disagreeing with the complete negativity of the original post and all your weak, tactless efforts to try to defend it.

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Re: Are you only disagreeing with me about the wrinkles?


Dec 29, 2021, 10:42 PM

And specifically your comment about no creativity tonight.

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If you don't like negativity then I am sorry


Dec 29, 2021, 11:49 PM

because I am not going to refrain from posting only glowing, happy thoughts just in case you might get triggered.

Stop reading my posts. It's easy.

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When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:34 PM

That is all.

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Very, very happy- very, very proud.


I know I am fighting the orange glasses crowd


Dec 29, 2021, 10:40 PM

by pointing out the obvious but finding it rich you'd try to defend this offensive play calling while telling me to quit while in a hole.

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You still running brothels in 3rd world countries ??? Seems


Dec 29, 2021, 11:39 PM

like a natural bridge to judging other folks in their job while they are performing LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of the 100+ year history of our program.


PACIFIC BEACH TIGER®

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Put the beer down Lang


Dec 29, 2021, 11:58 PM

you're embarrassing yourself.

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I remember when you used to be a good POASTER …… now ?

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

Troll.

And not a good one.


Carry on looser.

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Re: No misdirection, no zone holes found, nothing other than

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:01 PM

Lol. No that wasn’t a misdirection play. Shipley simply cut back against the grain because the defense over pursued to the play side.

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:38 PM

You should look up a diagram of a misdirection play. That was it.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:42 PM

Which play are you calling a trick play?

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There were several really effective misdirection plays

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:20 PM

I recall Pace taking one left for a big gain while everyone pulled right. I also noticed the lack of reliance on screen plays, which were a staple (and not very successful) for the offense during the regular season.

I thought we got too conservative our first drive on the last series but otherwise it was a nice gameplan vs a preety highly regarded ISU defense.

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Re: I get that but the draw plays and nothing new?


Dec 30, 2021, 8:43 AM

We didn’t have anything different to work with, we had what we’ve had. Hopefully a QB that can throw the ball next year.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:00 PM

Well, not to offend you, but I think I’ll take Dabo’s choices over yours

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Not about OC! Mediocre QB play-We in the playoffs!********


Dec 29, 2021, 10:12 PM



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And don't you dare blame QB5 play on Street!******


Dec 29, 2021, 10:14 PM



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Dec 29, 2021, 10:16 PM

As far as coaching goes you can lead the horse to water but you can't make him drink.

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Dabo hasn't asked you, and WON'T


Dec 29, 2021, 10:17 PM

Internet's full of IDIOTS

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Re: Dabo hasn't asked you, and WON'T


Dec 29, 2021, 10:28 PM

I often find that the biggest idiots in this world are the ones who like to project.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:20 PM

You gotta remember that the cycoots had a top 10 defense. I’m pretty sure the results would be similar if Tony E was still our OC.

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Kind of my point?


Dec 29, 2021, 10:29 PM

Right?

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:24 PM

I disagreed with the hire, but I'll cheer him on as long as he is in the spot. I don't think that you can judge much tonight, especially after the pick 6. I think that he was given a type of game to call after that. I am just glad that Caldwell is retiring. Don't think that Elliot or Streeter had the authority to let him go, so don't think that you can pin the o-line on the OC.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:28 PM


not promoted.

DJ and the OL development is a coaching responsibility.

I disagree with Dabo on the Streeter hire.



I would like to agree with you but need to know where you coached and your track record on promoting coordinators vs hiring outside. Can you forward a resume or provide a LinkedIn?

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So I can't make a simple observation based on results


Dec 29, 2021, 10:30 PM

unless I have coached?

Interesting.

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Re: So I can't make a simple observation based on results


Dec 29, 2021, 10:34 PM

Simple is a good word for you.

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hahaha..simple might be a good word for you too


Dec 29, 2021, 11:44 PM

I find that people who post childish retorts like this are mostly projecting because they have little to no education, no significant experiences outside their hometown, just plain dumb, or a combination of all of these.

Simple. Yeah, man...good one.

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Re: So I can't make a simple observation based on results


Dec 29, 2021, 10:36 PM

The result was a win. How many do you have??

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A win is a win, you're right


Dec 29, 2021, 11:51 PM

but can we also agree the offense played badly tonight? Is that ok?

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By the same token - we can’t make a simple observation based

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:42 PM

on your poast history in this thread alone ……. that you are an idiot ????


Goose. Gander. Hoss boss albatross.

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When you learn how to spell


Dec 29, 2021, 11:56 PM

is when I will worry about what you think.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:28 PM


not promoted.

DJ and the OL development is a coaching responsibility.

I disagree with Dabo on the Streeter hire.



I would like to agree with you but need to know where you coached and your track record on promoting coordinators vs hiring outside. Can you forward a resume or provide a LinkedIn?

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Interesting point about hiring from within

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:34 PM

there are a lot of positives and negatives to it.

The positives are that it keeps your staff engaged and motivated. You can reward people in your organization who have contributed to its success.

The negatives are the lack of innovation or outside ideas. It can also limit critical objectivity and outside successful person could bring.

But what do I know, this is my PhD area of study.

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Re: Interesting point about hiring from within

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:38 PM

There is the problem. Too many letters after your name and no real life experience. Now I understand.

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You don't even know me


Dec 29, 2021, 10:43 PM

how can you make such a blanket statement?

Rhett, assuming that is your name, please don't take any of this personally. I am just commenting on what I saw tonight and this season. I am no expert. Disagree or agree, it's all good.

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Re: You don't even know me

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:47 PM

You’re right. I don’t know you. I know a lot of other guys that like to list the letters after their names. I have found that most of them lack practical knowledge. I guess I shouldn’t stereotype but your posts send me in that direction.

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I understand.


Dec 29, 2021, 10:52 PM

I can promise you that I am not one of those types. I am just a football fan dude. I love my Tigers, like you.

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Dec 29, 2021, 10:39 PM

Perhaps Streeter knows that DJ and the offense is unreliable and prone to occasional costly errors. So they decided to put the game in the hands of the Defense.

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

Is it really fair to judge either coordinator on the results of a single game at the end of the year when they’ve had their positions for less than 3 weeks and only a week or so of practices?

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Dec 29, 2021, 11:33 PM

After one game? Hmm.

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not promoted.

DJ and the OL development is a coaching responsibility.

I disagree with Dabo on the Streeter hire.

here is an idea. find a new hobby. lifetime channel maybe

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:08 AM

There are plenty of other teams for a fan like you to root for . Clemson certainly doesn’t need the continued negative atttitude snd comments. Thinking you would be fabulous as cooterville fan

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:08 AM

There are plenty of other teams for a fan like you to root for . Clemson certainly doesn’t need the continued negative atttitude snd comments. Thinking you would be fabulous as cooterville fan

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:11 AM

Get over it ..... you have no idea what you are talking about!

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Dec 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

IMO Streeters playcalling and game management was impressive.

Streeters QB coaching was questionable. DJ and Lawrence were already amazing and any coach would look good with them. DJ seems to have gotten worse by the minute.

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Dec 30, 2021, 8:46 AM

I’m darn glad your role in Clemson’s football program has been and will be limited to couch potato.

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Dec 31, 2021, 8:51 PM

Then, get yourself a coaching position at some Pacific coast college and come play Dabo's Clemson team. Let's see whatcha got, KIA!

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Since winning 2 titles we are operating


Jan 1, 2022, 3:04 PM

More like a little league team than a college football powerhouse.

Ego is a problem …

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