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Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP
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Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 5, 2016, 11:48 PM

which is it guys? Obama isn't the devil? Or he just got it right in this instance?

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Re: Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 5, 2016, 11:56 PM

Clinton and the Pubs agreed on NAFTA, that is pretty much how he got elected.

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Why can't anyone see this?? Kills me the stupidity of


Jul 6, 2016, 12:55 AM

some Americans.

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I will field that for them..


Jul 6, 2016, 12:02 AM

Obama is a secret Muslim from Kenya who is covertly working with other Muslims to destroy the USA due to his religion and his racism. He has to do things here and there to mask his real intentions.

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Re: I will field that for them..


Jul 6, 2016, 12:14 AM

Pretty much nailed it.

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See the substantive replies by the opposition here?


Jul 6, 2016, 12:53 AM

I wonder why? Even Trump himself argues that TPP is just another bad deal for America. But the tried and true Republicans at all costs can't bring themselves to realize that they have been duped by their elected officials in the RP.

Why is it that Obama and the republicans are both pushing the TPP? I will wait for a good answer.

I did see on Fox News that the republicans were looking for concessions to back Trump and that concession was TPP. It was a huge shocker for me.

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By shocker I meant not really, sarcasm folks.***


Jul 6, 2016, 1:01 AM



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Neo Liberal economics***


Jul 6, 2016, 2:55 AM [ in reply to See the substantive replies by the opposition here? ]



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...+1. The 'New World Order' IMF/World Bank gameplan....***


Jul 6, 2016, 11:31 PM



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please.... take your liberal buddies and go play with


Jul 6, 2016, 8:20 AM [ in reply to See the substantive replies by the opposition here? ]

each other....

the time for meaningful discourse is long since past

when you have the ridiculous idea

that people of widely divergent ethic cannot and do not agree on anything at all.

wow...and I thought that was the whole point of "diversity".

and you sully what's little left of your credibility

by suggesting that the two parties don't ever come together to

simply vote for a piece of legislation that

lines their pockets.

wtph??? you thought these guys weren't really "politicians"?

stop being a dumbarse...

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What do you mean? You have to pass it to see what's in it***


Jul 6, 2016, 1:01 AM



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it's out man


Jul 6, 2016, 1:06 AM

research it!!!! I can give you things that I don't like about it but should just do the research yourself. Citizens like us need to me more informed and form our own opinions.

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Re: it's out man.... and has been out....


Jul 6, 2016, 1:48 PM

....perpetuation of keeping 'us vs them' in order to continue business as usual at the highest levels of our government, that is. And the same could be said for big business, religion, you name it.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It happens all the time in every segment of life. Religion. Business. Government. And even the military (I've seen that up close, unfortunately). And on and on.

MOST people complain about term limits, congressional benefits, corruption, etc. Yet, our 'elected' officials don't seem to be hearing (listening?).

But here we are, at each other's throats, pretty much espousing information and ideas fed to us by many mediums - all of which have their own agenda, whether you want to believe or accept it.

So, please, don't portend that you have all the answers, are all knowing and superior in YOUR 'knowledge' and perception (or beliefs).

You are just as full of #### as the rest of us. Do us all a favor and keep it to yourself, will you?

hth

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Whatever choice(s) you make makes you. Choose wisely.


Re: Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 6, 2016, 1:12 AM

Neither o. ne cares anything about the long term future of this country. They're both willing to sign trade deals that are devastating to this countries economy for their own self interest and a few of their large donors. A perfect example is Clinton allowing China into the WTO, because of Walmart and large donations to the Clinton Fondation. This move killed the US textile industry in just a few short months closing over 100 plants and putting 1000's out of work. The uninformed will say it's because they didn't automate, well they're wrong those plants were some of the most automated in the world. They just can't compete with plants that get free power, water, and subsidized labor, all coming from a country that does whatever it likes with its currency. Those who make our foreign trade policy will continue to profit and sell our country out for their own self interest while the masses debate idology, something those in power only pretend to care about to distract from their true beliefs.

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Re: Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 6, 2016, 2:01 AM

It's just another in a long list of bills written by what Adam Smith called "the masters of mankind" and passed along to the GOP for its usual positive spin and rubber stamp. It has nothing to do with free trade. As for Obama going along for the ride- dunno. Maybe helping secure a comfy retirement or a final installment to repay those masters for funding his campaigns.

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Re: Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 6, 2016, 2:46 AM

WASHINGTON to include the executive, legislative, judicial and K Street are the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE! They are in it for THEMSELVES and NOT US............

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Wait a minute? Are you people suggesting...?


Jul 6, 2016, 5:25 AM

Are you folks suggesting that TPP, and NAFTA are both good ideas? They certainly aren't. NAFTA is solely responsible for the loss of over 30million manufacturing jobs in the U.S. that were paying $14-$17 per hour in the 1980's and early 90's. No worries though, America was able to bounce right back by creating 84million Fast Food Service jobs paying $4.50 an hour in the 90's. I wonder why there was a recession?

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Our country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any America because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.

~Chesty Puller
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Re: Wait a minute? Are you people suggesting...?


Jul 6, 2016, 6:02 AM

Are you against all Free Trade?

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Trade is never free...


Jul 6, 2016, 6:25 AM

someone always wins

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That's the spirit.***


Jul 6, 2016, 6:36 AM



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Re: Trade is never free...


Jul 6, 2016, 7:00 AM [ in reply to Trade is never free... ]

That's hard for the left coast to understand.

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Where did you assume we agree with these pubs?


Jul 6, 2016, 7:10 AM

You do realize why trump got the nomination don't you? BC of stuff like this from pubs. They Bo longer speak for conservatives

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Re: Where did you assume we agree with these pubs?


Jul 6, 2016, 7:17 AM

Did I miss the convention?

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Re: Obama and the republicans agree on the TPP


Jul 6, 2016, 7:55 AM

Mods can we go ahead and ban this moron who cant figure out how to post on the P&R board.

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


I have no idea why you think Obama haters are


Jul 6, 2016, 8:14 AM

inevitably Republican supporters.

That's just your continued pitiful thinking....


#screwHilliary #screwTrump #takeAmericaback

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You're in seome serious denial bud.


Jul 6, 2016, 8:24 AM

That is generally he truth. Obama has an over 80%-90% approval rating among Dems depending which poll you use. He has around a 7-17% approval ratings among Repubs depending on which poll you use. You are pretty out of touch.

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Re: You're in seome serious denial bud.


Jul 6, 2016, 8:31 AM

This might come as a shock to someone like you who treats this #### like a sports team but there is a thing called an independent that hates both these ###### parties.

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


This might come to a shock to you..


Jul 6, 2016, 8:49 AM

I don't treat it like a sports team. I just point out reality. I argue with libs all the time. I will vote for the best candidate always no matter the party. Most people are clueless on both sides. The ignorance on the right just happens to be on steroids in comparison. Independents are a small minority though and I am a registered independent FYI. By the way, Obama has a 65% approval rating among independents. Your post as nonsense. Good work.

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lol CarlsDiner, I absolutely despise Trump as a candidate...


Jul 6, 2016, 1:39 PM

but not as much as I truly hate the Clintons and Obama.

All of them are stone-cold liars - and of the worst variety -

they are willing to sell our country down the river

all for their own gain.

Seriously, though, take a look at the liberal record and

when you can tell me exactly when and how

they've made a positive impact on society,

then you'll at least have something real to argue about.

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When has a lineral made an positive impact on society?


Jul 6, 2016, 1:42 PM

Is that what you are asking? lol

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liberal.*****


Jul 6, 2016, 1:43 PM



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"when and how they've made a positive impact on society"


Jul 6, 2016, 2:06 PM [ in reply to When has a lineral made an positive impact on society? ]

for a great miler like you, it shouldn't be hard.

that is, if liberals had ever made a net positive impact.

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Congrats on the dumbet post in the history of TNET.


Jul 6, 2016, 3:23 PM

I doubt you will find even the staunchest conservative that won't thin you are an absolute imbecile now. You want me to name all the things that liberals have done in the history of mankind? The list would be outrageously long you would be wasting my time. Isn't a little early to be drunk?

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Are you talking anyone liberal?


Jul 6, 2016, 4:23 PM [ in reply to "when and how they've made a positive impact on society" ]

Are you talking politics? Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln, and FDR were liberal y the constructs of the political definition. Yes, we all know Lincoln was a Repub at that time. The parties have changed and morphed over time. Liberal policies? Are you talking about liberal citizens? Steve jobs Do you like science? Most scientists are Dems. Are you talking about environmentalists? Are you talking about libs who fought for human rights? MLK. What are you rambling about?

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