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They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:40 PM
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I know there are a lot of very intelligent people here on Tnet. Can some of you explain this to me. They want to recover these objects, gather up the pieces and try to see what they are doing and see what information they are capable of gathering with the spy equipment. My question is why in the world do they blow the objects into a zillion pieces with $400,000 sidewinder missiles? Especially with these lower flying objects at 40,000 ft or less. Why not use low caliber instead of blowing the thing to smithereens?
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:44 PM
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Also have had a record number of Chinese nationals trying to get in at our southern border in the last month, but no worries all is good here.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:56 PM
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Your xenophobia has no home here. 🇺🇦 🏳️⚧️ 🏳️🌈 ❤️ 💕 💗 🇨🇳
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 6:37 PM
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Is that you Will “Lia” Thomas?
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Re: Chinese spy were in mar lago at trump parties
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Feb 11, 2023, 6:05 PM
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Dude, the record number of Chinese nationalist are already
Feb 11, 2023, 10:03 PM
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in the USA at our Universities, owning and operating businesses, etc. ANY and ALL Chinese owned businesses are operated by Chinese citizens are allowed specifically by the PRC with plenty of kickbacks to the high leaders to do so. I used to work for a company that was bought by the Chinese. I got out as soon as they came in when the opportunity came.
You should be more worried about the other nationalists that sneak in. Most of the Chinese come in through work/study Visas.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:45 PM
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It was a joint effort I guess. Trudeau says he gave the order It was shot down by American plane and probably American pilot.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 5:49 PM
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Not that I was ever in the Air Force but they usually don't let non-Americans fly American fighter jets.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 6:01 PM
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Canada just bought 85 F 35s in 2022 with US Govt agreement.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:45 PM
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Another distraction...Don't look at Kamala's terrible nip-tuck..Hunter's laptop...Classified documents..Look at all these objects we are blowing up
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 5:49 PM
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My question is why are we blowing them up?? Why not use small caliber instead of blowing up the spy equipment?
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 5:52 PM
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It is either a balloon or drone. Small caliber will bring either down.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 5:59 PM
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They shot them down in Afghanistan many many times with much smaller caliber than $400,000 sidewinder. Use cannon it will take them down
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 8:32 PM
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Since you know so much, why don’t you go up there and knock the next one down.
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The Chinese batteries in some of those Sidewinder Missles
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:55 PM
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may be approaching their expiration date, so we need to use those things up.
Probably at least as good an explanation as you will get from the Guvmint.
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Re: The Chinese batteries in some of those Sidewinder Missles
Feb 11, 2023, 6:04 PM
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Sadly you are probably right. Makes more sense than some of the answers
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 5:57 PM
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Was it red and said "Happy Valentine's Day"? Saw one get loose at Ingles today.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 6:01 PM
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LOL
Feb 11, 2023, 6:01 PM
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Time for The Alien Invasion LOL Anyone believing this shiiiiiit from these Clowns needs another Booster
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 6:16 PM
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In the case of the 1st balloon shot down outside the People’s Republic of Horry County, took a missle to reach it at approx 60K feet. Even our fighter jets don’t come within a few miles of that.
As for the last few flying at 40K feet, I can’t fathom a good answer. Seems if it was a balloon, just pop it and it will come down.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 7:04 PM
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This^^
I think people are underestimating just how high up 60k ft is. Commercial airlines cruise at 35k, so when you look up and see them, double it. 60k is 11+ miles above the land. 50 calibre cannons on the front of an F22 would be shooting 4 miles up and the idea is to not damage the payload anymore than is necessary. It is my understanding that the missile didn’t explode, it was designed to partially collapse the balloon causing it to fall but not at free fall speeds. We need to recover the satellites attached to these things and see what they’re capable of gathering.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 7:33 PM
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You’re a little off on your info. The F22 can fly 10 miles up putting it around 53,000 ft and the F15 could fly up to 65,000 ft per the manufacturers.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 7:34 PM
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If you will read my statement I stated especially those that fly 40,000 ft. Airforce ONE flies at 45,000 ft. Some corporate jets fly at over 50,000 ft. The jets with these last two could have flown up took good pictures and have at exactly what the thing looked like before shooting it down. Then shot it down with something less destructive than a $400,000 sidewinder. I can not think of any good reason why they did not.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 7:43 PM
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The payload released instantly when the missile hit. Again I am speaking primarily about the two flying at 40,000 ft. We have an international agreement with all countries concerning satellites.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 6:33 PM
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Agreed. Can't understand why they use a missile costing close to 400 K when a 20mm round is about 30 bucks.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 11, 2023, 6:53 PM
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Also we certainly have smaller missiles than the sidewinder. These guys had over a week to plan the first one. Several weeks to plan for second and third. Makes no sense whatsoever
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Nothing has made sense in the past 2years
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Feb 11, 2023, 8:54 PM
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Just another day in the US. Less than 2 yrs left. Fingers crossed that’s all that’s left.
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Just use a couple .50 Cal shells and take it down!***
Feb 11, 2023, 6:58 PM
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The missile was launched at the balloon, not the
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Feb 11, 2023, 7:11 PM
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Payload... It didn't detonate either. We don't make jets to firefight at 60k ft above sea level.
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Re: The missile was launched at the balloon, not the
Feb 11, 2023, 7:51 PM
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I have been speaking primarily about the last two at 40,000ft. The payload released immediately upon missile impact.
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Haven't tracked these phenomena, but
Feb 11, 2023, 7:58 PM
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I guessing they thought Ping was in one of them. 🤷🏻♂️
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Re: The missile was launched at the balloon, not the
Feb 11, 2023, 8:09 PM
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I read the ballon last weekend was the first time an F-22 had shot anything down. I was wondering if maybe they were using this as maybe a bit of a test run for this aircraft and therefore wanted to see how the missiles performed? Can’t think of any other reason. I saw that the 2 recent “objects “ were also brought down by F-22s but didn’t see if they used missiles or guns. Has it been confirmed they used missiles on those too?
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Re: The missile was launched at the balloon, not the
Feb 11, 2023, 8:16 PM
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Sidewinder missiles
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The weapons systems go through immense testing
Feb 11, 2023, 8:21 PM
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during R&D, first article and post production buy-off. The only thing that was certain in that intervention was the performance of the jet and weapons system.
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 11, 2023, 8:01 PM
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Short answer. Idiots running things right now.
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Not sure how small you are thinking, but a sidewinder isn’t all that big
Feb 11, 2023, 8:40 PM
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I don’t think one weighs more that 150 lbs and I’d guess about 6 inches total in diameter.
Also, these thinks are heat seekers, but don’t necessarily have to detonate on impact.
Hitting a sheet of ice after falling 40k feet is a problem too!
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Re: Not sure how small you are thinking, but a sidewinder isn’t all that big
Feb 11, 2023, 9:34 PM
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Using smaller ammo you can put object in slower descent. Smaller holes. First of all you fly up and see what the object is.
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Re: Not sure how small you are thinking, but a sidewinder isn’t all that big
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When object was hit by sidewinder its spy or whatever equipment was released immediately.
If intelligence equipped planes had gone up prior to shooting down the object they not only could have gotten good pictures they maybe could have intercepted info being sent up to that countries satellite or blocked it.
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The funniest thing about all of this
Feb 11, 2023, 9:49 PM
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Is that there seems to be a legitimate threat of an EMP attack and the left is pushing for the automotive industry to go electric. In a couple of years, when our power grid is out of commission, they are going to somehow blame this on Trump. Oh the irony.
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You lost me at “I know there are a lot of very intelligent people here on Tnet”
Feb 11, 2023, 10:57 PM
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There are some.
More like a few.
Actually very few.
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Re: You lost me at “I know there are a lot of very intelligent people here on Tnet”
Feb 11, 2023, 11:10 PM
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This (:
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So we wait to shoot down an obvious spy balloon, yet now
Feb 12, 2023, 8:42 AM
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we are just shooting down stuff without knowing what it is??
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 12, 2023, 8:50 AM
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I can never get the time back I wasted on this wasted thread made by wasted people
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
Feb 12, 2023, 9:26 AM
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The information that the USG and DOD are going to release this early in the process is extremely limited and ‘sanitized’. You will save yourself a lot of unnecessary or wasted effort trying to understand or explain what is going on - or why - at this stage.
What does concern me is the manner in which the current administration is handling the incidents and the failure to inform not only the public, but members of Senate and Congress on events. [Disclaimer: I admit I already was not a fan of this president or his administration. ]
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Re: They just shot down another high flying "object" over Canada
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Feb 12, 2023, 10:46 AM
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Because taking it out with small caliber makes the landing zone a wider, more unpredictable area.
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