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Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:48 AM
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Uncle has been very vocal
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:52 AM
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Does he think Big Dave played any part in that?
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:04 AM
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Yes Big Dave was a cancer and heard that from someone that is very close to the program. NCAA had also asked certain individuals to steer clear of the guy if that tells you anything.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:52 AM
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Joke. DJ is a very bad quarterback that was given many chances at clemson
Surprising that DJ is such a good kid considering the trash he group up around.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:58 AM
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Both are true.
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No, they're not. DJ was improved by Streeter this year.***
Jan 1, 2023, 11:46 PM
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Re: No, they're not. DJ was improved by Streeter this year.***
Jan 2, 2023, 9:44 PM
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It boggles my mind how you're so consistently clueless about everything. Ignorance really is bliss, isn't it?
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:11 AM
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I'm thankful for DJ that he had a chance to live around decent people for a couple of years. Hopefully his character will not "regress" to the level of Big Dave after his return to the west coast.
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Holy cow, not a ringing endorsement of Streeter
Jan 1, 2023, 8:54 AM
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For sure. Ouch.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:56 AM
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He has the same opinion as Trent Dilfer.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 8:57 AM
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The truth, unfortunately.
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How do you figure?
Jan 1, 2023, 11:50 PM
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DJ got way better from last year to this. Nobody got worse under Streeter. The #1 DRAFT PICK left pretty good. And are you saying Deshaun Watson was worse in his last year, when we WON THE NATL CHAMPIONSHIP?
Some of you dudes just make crap up in an effort to be negative. Who lives their life like that??
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Re: How do you figure?
Jan 2, 2023, 9:49 PM
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Deshaun did improve, but he also refused to work with Streeter and used an outside coach. Bryant, Brice, and Johnson all regressed as passers, and I think the argument can be made they did better after getting away from Streeter. Lawrence came in extremely polished. It's widely believed he regressed every year. Jacksonville's coach has said they had to completely reteach him fundamentals and he's just now getting the hang of it. He had all the talent in the world but did not leave NFL-ready. DJ wowed everyone in high school. He came in as a freshman and broke records. He was the second worst QB in the country last year. You say he improved, but he also had a much easier route in the first half of the season this year. Last year, he was pummeled by UGA which ruined his confidence for the season. This year, it took half the season for the same to happen. In the latter half of this season, he was every bit as bad as he was last year. I gave you the stats last week.
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The truth will out at Oregon State.
Jan 1, 2023, 8:58 AM
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Ouch. Not being in that inner circle and talking to players, seeing practices etc we really don't know. Some are saying the same about DW4 and Trevor. We'll get some ideas next year how he is with Oregon state but, what hurts is future recruits. The same thing gets said about the oline, playing in a pansy conference etc.
The negative recruiting no doubt has probably hurt us but to what extent.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:13 AM
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Trevor Lawrence's qb rating improved every year. After 3 years at Clemson, he was the number 1 overall pick.
I'm not sure how you can improve what he did his freshman year.
I'm sure Alabama will get the same scrutiny for Bryce young this year....
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:18 AM
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Trent Dilfer, known as a QB guru, says that Streeter doesn't develop QB's well. Oregon State coaches are saying that DJ's.mechanics digressed at Clemson under Streeter and they believe they can fix. DJ's family are probably just repeating what they are hearing.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 5:38 PM
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Who cares what Dilfer says. What did Dilfer do for DJ? Nothing.
he coached Lipscom Academy and is now at UAB... lets see how the UAB QB does.
DJ has demonstrated what his ceiling in this program was. I did not see much improvement from last year to this year. You could see he had worked on getting some touch on the ball, other than that he was pretty much the same physically. He did a much better job at game management and just throwing it away when there wasn't anything there vs forcing plays. On the flip side he does not have much pocket feel, his feet get set and he reads half the field. Does not appear to be able to read coverages and go to a checkdown. It seems like he has one guy in mind and that is where the ball is going. I don't know if that is what they are teaching but it would be hard to believe that would be the case.
Cade doe feel the pocket, he moves in the pocket, he steps into his passes, he does look off the defense and he throws a very catchable ball. I think (which I realize doesn't matter)he might put too much air under his long balls (results are backers can close the gap) but they are catchable balls and well placed. He needs another 10 pounds, hope he weighs in at 210-ish next year and gets alot of time with his receivers in the off season. Hope he also gets alot more situational awareness of what is going on in the game... that run that ended the half to run out the clock with no points was pure youth and adrenalin. He also showed alot of grit as he spent alot of time under pressure and on his back with 300 pounders laying on him and he got up and went back to work.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 2, 2023, 9:51 PM
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I'm sick of idiots giving Streeter credit for Deshaun. DESHAUN WATSON USED AN OUTSIDE COACH AND REFUSED TO WORK WITH STREETER. It's widely known knowledge.
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What a drama queen!
Jan 1, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Set the program back 10 years??? Bahahaha
Also there is video of DJ in HS. He didn’t regress- he just couldn’t come far enough along to play to Clemson standards.
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What Dabo really needs to do is hire a QB coach
Jan 1, 2023, 9:11 AM
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I think streeter is the QB coach as well. Hire an experienced QB coach to just teach the specifics
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Pumpers be like
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Jan 1, 2023, 9:13 AM
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Re: Pumpers be like
Jan 1, 2023, 11:18 AM
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And the others jump up and down at anything negative said about the program it’s a never ending cycle. The pumpers hope we continue and the dumpers hope we crumble.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:15 AM
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I mean, did he really say anything that a whole bunch of folks on this board hasn't said as well on multiple occasions? We keep saying talent has regressed under this staff so why should this be such a shock to anyone? I don't look at this as anyone taking a shot. I think many have mentioned that DJ might improve if he was in a system that fit him rather than trying to make him fit a system that he is not equipped to excel under.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:16 AM
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I agree with his assessment that Streeter is a garbage coach, but I can also point out that DJU’s family is the type of family I want nowhere near our program.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:18 AM
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I'm gonna all BS on that one...we had 2 well above average seasons, won our conference and played mostly great football...don't think DJ had anything to do with BV & TE leaving but is still possible and we still have a great football team...Clemson is still in a place where 99.9% of the other teams would love to be...get a LIFE!
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:27 AM
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You call BS? have you been under a rock?
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GOOD! It's the truth!
Jan 1, 2023, 9:21 AM
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CFP games after the Orange Bowl clearly show how far Clemson has regressed
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Re: GOOD! It's the truth!
Jan 1, 2023, 9:27 AM
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We certainly didn't look to be at the same level as any of those teams in the semi-finals. Recruiting and coaching are the keys. You have to have the talent to begin with and then you have to develop them into a team that can compete with the Big Boys. You also have to put together great game plans and be able to make effective in-game adjustments.
We used to do a lot of this very well but we have to admit to ourselves we have taken a step back and just work through it to get back to where we once were.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:23 AM
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I seriously doubt that Coach Streeter coached DJ to - after the snap take 2 steps backwards, firmly plant your feet in the ground and stare down your receiver........
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:21 AM
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Maybe the more important point is that he didn't teach him not to.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:10 AM
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Well facts are he went to high profile QB camps as well and was still awful. Streeter nor anyone else on this earth can perform miracles.
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Streeter was a tough (but not super talented) QB for us but
Jan 1, 2023, 9:26 AM
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I agree with her take. He has not shown what it takes to improve a QB under his tutelage. His O coordinator skills have not impressed me either but I think he deserves a little more time to see if it is a good fit....maybe he will grow into it.
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Re: Streeter was a tough (but not super talented) QB for us but
Jan 1, 2023, 10:20 AM
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That pretty much mirrors my thoughts. I didn't like the hire, but he has to be given a chance. The offense really didn't have but one way to go, but it did improve somewhat over last year.
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Re: Streeter was a tough (but not super talented) QB for us but
Jan 1, 2023, 10:43 AM
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I think part of it was the system. DJ is not an RPO QB, but Streeter did not tweak the offense to fit DJ. No one fears him in the run game. Also gives him too much to think about. Honestly, he should not have been recruited for the current system. Which is not a good scheme by the way.
I hope he does well at OSU.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:31 AM
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Maybe he's right. Maybe DJ has been getting coached to stare down one receiver and then heave the ball out of bounds if they aren't open. Maybe DJ was coached to fatten up 30 extra pounds to improve his speed, elusiveness and endurance. Or maybe DJ just isn't that into playing football and prefers to spend his spare time doing things unrelated to getting better at football. I can certainly agree that our QB coach has done nothing to distinguish himself but it does take two to tango.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:34 AM
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Or maybe trying to make him fit into a system that didn't fit him was just too much to ask...
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:15 AM
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Maybe he's right. Maybe DJ has been getting coached to stare down one receiver and then heave the ball out of bounds if they aren't open. Maybe DJ was coached to fatten up 30 extra pounds to improve his speed, elusiveness and endurance. Or maybe DJ just isn't that into playing football and prefers to spend his spare time doing things unrelated to getting better at football. I can certainly agree that our QB coach has done nothing to distinguish himself but it does take two to tango.
Streeter mentioned on occasion that DJ would hold the ball until he felt a receiver was wide open. How many throws did he attempt at trying to throw a guy open. Understandable though he could not hit the wide open receivers either.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:41 AM
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And nobody cares what he thinks since he wasn't directly involved. Just whining and itching to blame someone else. Its performance based and he had ample latitude to succeed and didn't. Have to find a scapegoat.
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It may take a year or so
Jan 1, 2023, 9:59 AM
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To get over the DJ years but I’m confident that the team will recover. DJ received special treatment at Clemson. You know that and I know that. The team certainly was aware of what was happening but none of them will ever come forth and admit it. Nor should they. We will never know all the circumstances that lead up to his favoritism with the coaches and frankly, I don’t give a darn, He is gone and I suspect his absence isn’t missed by his teammates. He may become the star player he was advertised to be at Oregon and I hope that he does.
We have a lot more to work with in Klubnik but he needs to be surrounded with better teammates. We will know a little more about the Tiger team after spring ball. Linemen and receivers need to be upgraded OR up coached, You can’t be a team like the four we saw yesterday without OLs and Wrs. I’m not sure Clemson has those players right now. Dabo has shown that he isn’t going to use the portal and perhaps he doesn’t need to. The right guys may be on campus right now. We shall see.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:46 AM
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I've been maintaining for weeks that Streeter is a liability. He should be fired immediately.
But, apparently we need MoAR CuLTuRe.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 9:51 AM
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Unfortunately that thought press has circulated before. It may be true. It’s really hard to say. What we can say for sure is that Dabo have him every chance.
This line of thought may hurt us in recruiting. We’ll have to wait and see. I doubt it though. Our playcalling is what will hurt us the most.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:06 AM
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Brandon Streeter was a below average player and a below average coach with no aptitude for improving himself nor any player he’s in contact with. We all know this.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:15 AM
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Wow there are a lot of Clemson fans responding that they agree. Not a great look.
Ill wait to see how DJ does at Oregon state. He did look worse this year than he did his first game at ND, but streeter didnt teach him to throw the football in the dirt or 10 ft over someones head. Those plays are on him.
https://twitter.com/mau_uiagalelei/status/1609409115687915522?s=46&t=u3Z0XYzH6WVMCdOvaeQjbw
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:36 AM
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I think that family is still under the delusion that DJ is some elite NFL-bound QB. It's clear that after 2019 he lost interest in football and was just going through the motions to please his family and not let down his teammates. He didn't develop because he wasn't mentally into it.
This will be clear after next season when Cade takes Clemson back to the CFP and DJ is on the bench at Oregon State.
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LOL, we aren’t making the playoffs next year.
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Jan 1, 2023, 10:41 AM
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Not with this staff.
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Re: LOL, we aren’t making the playoffs next year.
Jan 1, 2023, 2:16 PM
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Coming from the person that thinks we have a good basketball coach....
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 10:43 AM
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DJ‘s problem is not mechanics or even coaching.
His problems are decision-making, judgment, intuition, vision and leadership.
I only met him briefly, but all of his teammates say he’s a great guy. I’m sure he is. But he has a long way to go with respect to the mental aspects of football.
I do wish him well. Seems like a good guy.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:02 AM
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I agree. DJ has always seemed very reserved and has major confidence issues. Explains why Dabo treated him like a Faberge Egg. All of his problems are in his head. I don’t think he has the mentality of a college QB, much less an NFL QB.
I attended the Clemson graduation ceremony 2 weeks ago where DJ was supposed to walk the floor. All of his other teammates were there. He wasn’t. He couldn’t get out of Clemson fast enough and get back to his West Coast people.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 6:19 PM
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I’m pretty sure his brother had a serious medical emergency around the time DJ was supposed to graduate. When I saw the story about his brother I wondered if DJ would miss the ceremony.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 6:41 PM
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My apologies then. I did not know that Matayo had been seriously sick around that time.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 5:49 PM
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I don't necessarily agree that his mechanics are solid. He has so much arm strength he does not need to have good mechanics. Is going thru reads part of the mechanics or do you consider that to be part of the "mental" aspect of the game?
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:16 AM
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Uncle has been very vocal
Would put little to zero stock into anything that family has to say. DJ got a raw deal being surrounded with some of those low life’s.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:29 AM
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I'm sure he is an expert.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 11:33 AM
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Yeah, the truth can be painful. But DJU has a chance to prove his uncle right next season at Oregon State University. I wish him all the best...
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Remember, opinions are like $$$holes, everybody has one.***
Jan 1, 2023, 1:27 PM
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 1:41 PM
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Will find out quickly next year. Honestly think DJ should've switched to baseball.
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Uncle deleted.....
Jan 1, 2023, 2:21 PM
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Look, I'm not happy with drop-off in offense AT ALL. But this is a BAD look for that family. Stuff like this always haunts you. I see he has deleted message.
Be an adult...handle things in private and be a PRO...
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A big year from Cade
Jan 1, 2023, 5:51 PM
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and DJ is a distant memory
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Keeping it real PapaJ ...
Jan 1, 2023, 6:36 PM
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DJ maybe set the program back at most 1-2 years. TP was our next best option at QB -- no better likely worse. The program's in CK2's hands now every bit as much as Dabo's and OC's. We'll see what happens, but I like Cade's potential.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 1, 2023, 7:35 PM
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Not a fan of DJ's family drama, but this stings.
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Nobody but Dabo set us back
Jan 1, 2023, 8:25 PM
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He should have yanked him and hit the portal. It’s obvious we have no idea how to develop a QB.
Trevor Lawrence set us back worse, if you want to blame the kids. It allowed for major complacency on the offensive side of the ball.
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DJ or Streeter?***
Jan 1, 2023, 11:59 PM
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 2, 2023, 8:04 AM
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DJs Mom seems like a nice person. I really feel bad for DJ. I really wonder if he even likes football or if it was a way to get approval or get away from Dave and the Aunts and Uncles.
I wish DJ the best at his new spot and we should remember that he is a grown man and that his loud mouth family doesn’t speak for him. Until he says or posts something shifting the blame off himself don’t him accountable for what his relatives say.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 2, 2023, 9:59 AM
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Back 10 years and into the playoffs next year. Take my words to the bank. When I wrote a football blog, I got the national champion right 9 out of 10 times. It’s a bet I’m willing to make.
Klubnik will be fantastic and next season he will be ready. Counting the Orange Bowl I believe he’s lost only 2 games in his entire life, but maybe this was his first loss as a starter. The kid can bring it, but college football is a big step up. Watson wasn’t really ready his freshman year and Tal was just a freak of nature.
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LoL, best thing I've read on Tnet in a while
Jan 2, 2023, 11:10 PM
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"When I wrote a football blog, I got the national champion right 9 out of 10 times."
There's a lot going on in that sentence.
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Re: Not a good look, DJ and family may have set this program back 10 years
Jan 2, 2023, 10:57 PM
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We can say that we gave DJ every chance in the world to succeed and he couldn’t get to done.
A rational coaching staff would have benched him last year for Puma and run the option, but we finished the season with him and didn’t even allow a 5 star #1 QB to practice with the first team until the regular season was over. Unfortunately, when we did…
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