No probable cause needed for

Pretty obvious you know nothing about guns.

CUPD carries AR-15 rifles. They are not assault weapons. Actually, they were designed by Eugene Stoner in the early 1950's as a varmint rifle. Ranchers out west had horrible issues with groundhogs, prarie dogs, and coyotes tearing up their farms and needed a cheap, high velocity cartridge that could be fired quickly with extreme accuracy out of a lightweight, extremely accurate rifle. So Remington invented the .222. Armalite and Stoner took the .222, put it through some experimental rifles, tweaked the design, then came out with the .223 Remington to go along with their new prairie dog/groundhog/coyote hunting rifle: the AR-15.

Then the military saw the design, liked that it was lightweight, compact, accurate, and could carry a lot of bullets. The Military then made the .223 a tad more powerful, creating the 5.56 NATO cartridge. Then they took the AR-15, completely gutted it, rebuilt all the internal mechanisms so they could shoot 3 round burst and full automatic, and upgraded the barrels and receivers with stronger materials. The military named their new rifle the "M-16A1 assault rifle". Later editions included the M-16A2, M-16/M203, the M-4, and the HK-416.

CUPD uses Ar-15s. They are not assault rifles. They are standard sport rifles and fire a relatively low-power cartridge. They are the most commonly owned firearm in the U.S. I own several.

The AR-15 is nothing like the M-16, the parts of the guns arent even interchangeable. They do have a similar appearance, but thats it.

Have you ever seen a professional car race? Like touring cars and such? Those are designed to be used and abused on a race track, they are REAL race cars that can do race car things. Now, have you ever seen some young kid driving around in a sporty coupe thats been modified with lowered suspension, loud exhaust, etc etc to make it LOOK like a race car? While the sporty coupe may look and sound like a race car, it is not a race car. It cant compete with race cars, it isnt designed to do what race cars do, it only has a similar appearance to a race car. This is the difference between the AR-15, a civilia hunting rifle, and the M-16, a fully automatic assault rifle that is not available to civilians OR police departments.

How do I know this? Because I have been an FFL dealer (Federally licensed firearms dealer, "gun seller") for a few years, and I'm also the FFL that CUPD, Anderson, and Greenville buy their rifles from. Believe it or not, only SWAT teams are allowed to use fully automatic weapons (and even then, they only "borrow" those weapons from federal agencies for a limited amount of time). They also have to buy their own guns and gear, so 99% of the gear police officers use are commercially available at your average gun store.

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I have never been impressed with police even once in my life

Sep 3, 2017, 11:47 AM

I have never been arrested, never been in trouble and my last speeding ticket was in 2003 in Louisiana. So this is not coming from an adversarial point of view. They are to protect and serve and there have been maybe three or four times that I have needed their assistance and got not ne ounce of it. They also have terrible attitudes most of the time. I will admit that they have a very tough job, maybe the toughest depending on where they work, and they are severely underpaid. Maybe that is the reason they have such a bad attitude.

1. My wife and her brother had a flat driving to Atlanta from Los Angeles. They had the flat on the interstate in Arkansas, near a populated area. This was before cell phones, about 1995. The brother got out to change the tire as he very well knows how to do. When he got to the last lug nut, it simply would not come off. Nothing would make it come off. They sat there on the side of the interstate for five hours. Police passing all day long and never once stopping to assist when they were trying to wave them over. I understand its not their job, but when you see the same couple stranded for 5 hours, don't you think you should check. Finally, a motorist stopped only because a big bag of cans blew out of the back of his truck right at that spot. So he stopped and they told him of their situation. He said I have a battery motorized lug remover but I have to go home and get it. They figured they would never see him again, but to their surprise, he came back. To this day, my wife says God had a hand in that bag of trash blowing out of that truck at that very time and spot.

2. I'm in Atlanta and walking up to the Georgia Dome. I ask the cop on the corner that is supposed to be directing traffic but not doing so, if I am on the right route to a certain avenue. He didn't even look at me and said keep moving.

3. I'm in Atlanta and an 18 wheel delivery truck has the exit of the entire parking lot I'm in blocked and people are trying to get out. All the delivery driver had to do was pull forward about 10 feet. He refused. A cop stops at the red light in his car right there. We all approach him to for the driver to move but he doesn't want to bother to pull out of traffic and do anything. We are start looking at his name tag to get it right when we call and complain and he was very nasty and said yep yall go ahead and take my name, I don't give a ####.

4. My graduation form Clemson and I've told this story before. My aunt, grandmother and grandfather were staying at my cousin's apartment behind the Tigertown area. Actually it was a house. Someone came banging on the door, threatening to come in an rape my pregnant aunt and kill everyone. They were very drunk, but Charles Manson acting. They were yelling through the dorr that he must have the wrong house and to go away that they were going to call the police. He was very much like a Charles Manson trashy looking ragmuffin like that group was and talking about pregnant ####### etc. They called the police and nobody ever came. This was the December graduation and the person that answered the phone at the police station said they were all at a department Christmas party.
Unbelievable. They started praying that the door would hold as he was pounding so hard the door was pushing in. I guess their prayers were answered because the door never gave way and the person finally just went away as mysteriously as they came.

5. Here in Atlanta, they are often the most dangerous drivers speeding when they aren't even going to a call. Many people have been killed in Atlanta due to police chasing someone too fast for what they were doing or speeding to a call that wasn't an emergency. ONe of the many people killed was the wife of the Atlanta Braves trainer when their family was going to the Peach Bowl one New Year's Eve.

They do not have a high level of education and their temperament is that they are not far rempved form the other side of what they police.

So don't feel bad, that's just the way they are. I really don't have much use for them and I am very much a law abiding citizen.

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Clemson gestapo

Kudos to your son for being responsible !***

In 1992 I was stopped with my fraternity brother..

No probable cause needed for "stop and frisks"... all they

Re: No probable cause needed for "stop and frisks"... all they

The number of cops tricked out like special forces wannabes

"The terror... the terror"... It's an indoctrination thang.***

More of that to come in the future...

Assault weapons, you're hilarious

An AR-15 can be utilized as an assault weapon due to its,

my 10/22 fire a high velocity round fast and accurately, is

Re: An AR-15 can be utilized as an assault weapon due to its,

Hybrid in the sense of style is all.

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I'll bet you that I could assualt some one with an AR-15

Re: I'll bet you that I could assualt some one with an AR-15

Only PeterPuffers Use Bump Fire :)***

Re: Assault weapons, you're hilarious

Classless09... showing ignorance again

Re: Assault weapons, you're hilarious

Why does CUPD need AR-15s?***

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Good point.

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Re: Good point.

Re: Assault weapons, you're hilarious

Re: Clemson gestapo

Random unneeded questioning seems like gestapo to me***

Gestapo is exactly what he described.***

Re: Gestapo is exactly what he described.***

No irony...Just hyperbole

And yet they're not doing a thing..........

Pretty typical.

Re: Clemson gestapo

I have never been impressed with police even once in my life

I have met bad ones and good ones.

Irresponsible

Maybe so actually. Glad they didn't.*****

Re: I have never been impressed with police even once in my life

Did you read my post. I have never been asked for my ID. You

Not pissed

Yeah that's called Authoritarianism. Which is also a violation of the constitution***

#fakenews

no you're not***

You are completely wrong per the 4th Amendment***

What law is that?***

How Things Have Changed Back in Late 80s

Police have been systematically getting more authoritarian the past 23 years...

Be thankful that since Clemson is so safe

I used to tell my parents the same thing

You don't have to show the gestapo "your papers"

Was your sheltered bubble burst?

I'm no liberal, but police are out of control

There's just no money in stopping real crime, you don't get

Traffic cops are merely glorified tax collectors

So you'd rather they not look after the safety...

CUPD is an example of a ridiculous accesorized police department

all that high tech gear and they can't guard a rock sitting

Re: all that high tech gear and they can't guard a rock sitting

There were MIPs to give out those evenings***

Most cops are short type A control

Re: Clemson gestapo

Very important question

And here is another 1 sided story on tnet***

to be fair, the cops are free to come here and post their

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