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TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'
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TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 1:28 PM

 
Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'

NC State coach Dave Doeren responded Friday to some reaction to his comments about the gameplan against Clemson freshman quarterback Trevor Lawrence Saturday. D Read Update »


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I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 1:30 PM

Every team wants to hit and rattle the qb

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Agreed


Oct 19, 2018, 1:32 PM

It's mainly Tigernet's fault. Trying to make a story out of nothing. Ryan McGee even made fun of Tigernet on the Campus Conversation podcast yesterday. Essentially how they try to take a few things out of context and make it into a story. I agreed.

Guys, just report the facts, no need to make us sound so whiny. I'm over it

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Re: Agreed


Oct 19, 2018, 1:38 PM

^^^ Too late woofie. The truth will set you free.

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100% tiger boards fault


Oct 19, 2018, 1:54 PM [ in reply to Agreed ]

DD said he wanted to finish us off. He's taking about finishing the game and not just playing close with us.

He said they wanted to hit and rattle TL in the same article so our friends on Tnet jumped to conclusions that DD is telling his players to "take him out"

It all stems back to the comment he made about knocking Gallman out of the game. Something like, at least we knocked out their running back.

Don't you guys think our coaches want our players to hit Finley? Let's not get any penalties, but if you get a chance you tattoo that guy.

Football is not a nice man's game. I hope we blast Finley and then make Tua T cut a flip and helicopter in the CFP. A little revenge for dw4

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Re: Agreed


Oct 19, 2018, 1:55 PM [ in reply to Agreed ]

Yep I heard that too. He said the Tiger writers get to talk to the head of conference officials and they only ask about 3 calls they think went against Clemson the previous year and then run off and tweet the quote immediately. I wonder if that includes D Hood? This whole thing is an absolute nothing burger. Venables is probably laughing at the way the TNet writer framed that whole comment. TNet writer knows there are 6 or 7 fools on here that think contact shouldn’t be allowed in football. Tiger players know they plan on being extremely physical tomorrow and fully expect State to do the same. This should be similar to some of those Auburn games with hard hitting throughout until State says “uncle”.

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 1:36 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

yep... if you wanta blast dave doreon for his players taking towels.. or the laptop comments.. fine.. but, don't act like he's the only coach telling his players to hit.. and, to hit hard.. that's football.

some on here gotta make a stink 'bout everything..

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I agree. It's the same thing we want to do to RIley.


Oct 19, 2018, 1:39 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

Can't let him play "pitch and catch" all day long.

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 1:40 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

Only problem I have is saying TL has not been rattled. That is incorrect.
TL was actually knocked out of a game for lowered sakes.

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 2:52 PM

on a targeted shoulder shot to the head.

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I see zero problem with Clemson using his sorry choice of


Oct 19, 2018, 2:17 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

words as motivation.

When Dorean said "we knocked their running back out", was he saying they hit him in the head and knocked him out cold? I don't know, but that is exactly what happened. He was proud about that fact for sure.

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 2:40 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

Ya think BV tells his guys to try and hit the QB on every play. Nooo he wouldn't do that would he, not high intense BV, would he???;)

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 19, 2018, 10:34 PM

That’s actually funny because there are times I think he wants to help in the tackle. Love his intensity

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I had no problem with his comments


Oct 19, 2018, 4:15 PM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

other than, given his history, they were probably poorly chosen.

However I'm 100% in favor of them being blown out of proportion by the media and becoming a distraction to him and his team.

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Re: I see zero problem with his.comments


Oct 20, 2018, 7:56 AM [ in reply to I see zero problem with his.comments ]

Wrong, trust me that will be all over the locker room. Everybody hits hard, they don’t actually say it, that’s up there with Petrino comments on Alabama . His job involves not saying something stupid to give other team motivation.

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It seems to me...


Oct 19, 2018, 1:42 PM

that ole Dave spends a lot of time defending himself and insisting that his comments were simply taken out of context.

Often times, it's not what you say, but how you say it and I think this is Dave's biggest problem. He's just mouthy and whiny.

Hey Dave...there's a surefire fix for that. Keeping your friggin' mouth shut.




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Re: It seems to me...


Oct 20, 2018, 12:12 PM [ in reply to It seems to me... ]

Didn't DD actually say that he didn't see any water bottles thrown last year??? He needs his eyes checked and his mouth checked at the door!!!

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 1:43 PM

I dont see why his comments were a big deal. Guess what. Clemson will also try and beat the hell out your QB too. And our guys are bigger and faster than yours. So I would be more worried if I were Finely

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Dave Doeren just talks too much


Oct 19, 2018, 1:45 PM

Time to shuttie the pie hole

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 1:47 PM

Ole Dave's head looks like Moe put it in a vice and cranked the wheel...NNNYYAAAAH!!

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 2:51 PM

I'm sure dave would love to take him out.
Lets beat them good!!!
Go tigers....

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I heard Doeren on the ACC This Morning show with Pack...


Oct 19, 2018, 1:55 PM

He's a miserable guy.

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 2:03 PM



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Welcome to the age of manufactured outrage


Oct 19, 2018, 2:07 PM

It seems like the media is just sitting around waiting to get offended so they can act outraged and get the emotional validation they need from their millennial twitter followers.

It's football. Of course NCSU wants to hit our QB. We want to hit their QB too! As a hard and fast rule, we want to hit (very hard) anyone that has the football.


Still, Dorean is kind of a ######, so I still enjoyed seeing him squirm a bit. :)

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Re: Welcome to the age of manufactured outrage


Oct 19, 2018, 6:02 PM

DD will be squirming a lot more tomorrow afternoon.

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Hit dog hollering.***


Oct 19, 2018, 2:07 PM



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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 2:09 PM

Of course they were taken out of context. Imagine that. You want your guy to sack our guy. There's nothing wrong with this people. We don't have to go all "Them's fightin' words" on everything opposing coaches say.

I think that this battle will be won more easily than the last couple of meetings because of 2 things. DL and OL. We are going to maul them in the trenches this time, and it's going to show early and often.

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Even if it was taken out of context, we remember the Gallman


Oct 19, 2018, 2:16 PM

comment. So...excuse us IF we are sensitive.

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 2:36 PM

I would bet that there has been some HS coaches that did send guys after TL to take him out of the game!!!

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Trevor is much larger than average H.S. player, so your


Oct 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

analogy does not hold water.

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Re: Trevor is much larger than average H.S. player, so your


Oct 20, 2018, 12:15 PM

Trevor is TALLER, not necessarily bigger. There is a difference.

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i may be naive but when you say "we knocked their RB out of


Oct 19, 2018, 2:44 PM

the game"... that implies that you were excited that a dirty play made by your player was a positive and you were happy you eliminated a valuable piece of the oppositions offense. Now internally one may be happy that that happened to Wayne Gallman but you can't be stupid to the point that you verbalize it as the freaking head coach....

Pretty sure he'll be happy to see Trevor or any key piece of the team get hurt at the hands of his defense "hitting" them.

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 2:52 PM

Hopefully all this reporting will have Tigers ready to shed “finesse” image on Saturday. Time to kick some serious as$ Tigers!

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Portraying Doeren as a dirty coach is unfair IMO.


Oct 19, 2018, 3:18 PM

Yes, he's a jerk, and yes, he talks too much, but I don't think his comments a couple of years ago about Gallman nor his comments this week about Lawrence were meant to be dirty. I don't think he teaches his team to try to injure players, and it's unfair to twist his words and read more into them than is there.

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Re: Portraying Doeren as a dirty coach is unfair IMO.


Oct 19, 2018, 3:25 PM

Sorry Judge, I always agree with you but imo he’s a slimy sleezeball that teaches win at all cost. Whether he meant it or not, glad he said it and hopefully our oline took it to heart and pancake them bassturds.

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Same thing he said about the Gallman comments 2 years ago***


Oct 19, 2018, 4:09 PM



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Did you see the HIT on Gallman, it was meant to injure,


Oct 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

And then he bragged about it afterwards. I see implication of same type of hit to Trevor in his original statement. I will stick to my nickname for him "DIRTY DAVE"! At least, with this type of scrutiny, I hope he will not have a player target Trevor. And there are other ways to injure a player. I watched the Syracuse hit several times, the Cuse player used his shoulder against Trevor's helmet, simultaneously using his forearm against his neck. And Trevor's head jerked violently with the hit, but the forearm must have done the most damage.

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Doeren's a tool but there's nothing wrong with his statement***


Oct 19, 2018, 4:27 PM



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Re: Doeren's a tool but there's nothing wrong with his statement***


Oct 19, 2018, 5:05 PM

+1 on the above comment. It sums everything up perfectly.

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Guess he's crying wolf?***


Oct 19, 2018, 4:36 PM



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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 5:18 PM

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/hey-clemson-fans-nc-state-s-dave-doeren-isn-t/article_67ed9072-d2ef-11e8-84b7-232e42d67b43.html

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 6:05 PM

He likes towels?????

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 20, 2018, 12:26 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context' ]

Did you read the article?? I respect the courage, dedication and love it takes to deal with special needs children and adults. So remove that point of integrity from inspection and read the rest

He made a maintenance worker feel special-guess he said "Hey! I just wanted you to know you are special)

Paraphrased-"he made sure everyone rallied around her 9 yo with a broken ankle"(N.C. State assistant athletic director for communications Annabelle Myers--"it was Doeren who led the charge in making sure everyone in the football program rallied around her." ) Again- "seriously"? Everyone in the program rallied-what does that mean?

He married a "former nurse"--what does that even mean-beyond the obvious? I bet his wife likes the fact the she un-became a nurse. Working or not working, she's a nurse.

He wanted to be an Orthopedic Doc but a 7 on 7 game at a high school one summer changed all that?-Whatttttt????? They must've smoked some serious crap that summer night.

And then there's his old boots, pickup truck and country music-that's gotta tug at your heart strings!.

So-positives--He's very active in the special needs community and has a special needs child which takes a lot of love. The only relevant point about the man's character in the article.



Conclusion. NC State and SC have really poor journalism students. I was waiting for the splinter in the lion's paw (former lion) story.
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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 22, 2018, 7:09 AM

I wouldn't blame that so much on the journalist, as I would that she really had nothing to work with. "Hey this guy is a nice guy! He...has a wife and kids! And he likes country music! And stuff!"

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 7:44 PM

" And there we were...Toe to toe with The Russkies....and the other guy just blinked.."...

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He said what he meant and meant what he said


Oct 19, 2018, 9:32 PM

...they weren't taken our of context.

Personally, I appreciate him being honest.

He provides excellent bulletin-board material.

Keep it coming Dave.

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**WHAAT IS ALL THIS WARM FUZZY CRAP ABOUT?**


Oct 19, 2018, 10:23 PM

Who cares about his intent? I trust no one on here really likes the guy, do they? He's an idiot. In light of all the recent injuries and the intent of officiating (got to call it something) to discourage unnecessary and dangerous hits, he says moronic stuff like that-what can you call him but an idiot. It is our job to see it gets over exaggerated to the max. If he's dumb enough to say what he did to the media, imagine the way he put that to his players behind close doors. Now he and his little fuzz balls are under a big magnifying glass. Making it as horrendous as possible probably saved some bad hits on our guys. Besides-since when do we defend an opposing coach?? That is unconscionable! If we are gonna have a love fest-why play? This is football--there is hitting and there's fans demeaning the other side if the opportunity presents itself. And if ANYBODY ever says anything good about Muschump-you better go into hiding. This is a viscous board!!

( Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all
the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea! Amen! )


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Re: **WHAAT IS ALL THIS WARM FUZZY CRAP ABOUT?**


Oct 19, 2018, 11:36 PM

Watcher: Your comments are right on the money. I can't believe that all these posts are actually defending this nut job and agree with his lame explanation "taken out of context". You can bet the mortgage he has told his team to knock TL out of the game no matter how they do it. Obviously these posts supporting Doren subscribe to the Rodney King philosophy: "Can't we all just get along". Sad, Sad, Sad.

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Re: **WHAAT IS ALL THIS WARM FUZZY CRAP ABOUT?**


Oct 20, 2018, 6:53 AM [ in reply to **WHAAT IS ALL THIS WARM FUZZY CRAP ABOUT?** ]

Well said Watcher. How many of you have played team sports? My experience is that a coach will be careful with his words in public and kick up the intensity when talking to his players in the locker room. If Dorein is saying this about his game plan against TL in public, what is he saying behind closed doors?

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 19, 2018, 10:29 PM

I think most of us realized he wasn’t saying they were going to intentionally injure Trevor. It just so happens his team has had some very questionable hits on players

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 20, 2018, 6:56 AM

Make no mistake DD is a nasty sort, his actions post game the last year or so states just how he feels about the Tigers! He wants to beat us probably more than anybody else, as we have spoiled his chances the last few years no doubt! But this is the game of football, not synchronized swimming! He wants his defense to play physical, no less than Brent wants our guys to play with violence as he’s stated before in interviews, about individuals abilities! Get over it ladies, this is the game of football!!! Go Tigers!!!

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Re: TNET: Dave Doeren says Lawrence comments taken 'out of context'


Oct 20, 2018, 7:25 AM

So what!

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Out of Context?????


Oct 20, 2018, 11:47 AM

When someone is interviewed about a game plan and what they say is written verbatim and his interview video confirms it, I guess that's out of context???? Idiot!! (and no I do NOT like him)

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