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The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:08 AM
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The NCAA has created a generation of selfish players who only care about themselves. The NIL is completely ruining College Football and teams with big money can pay whatever recruits want to go to get their school. This is not fair to the smaller market teams in college football. The NIL, if not restricted, will continue to make a bigger gap in College football.
If we keep the NIL, there needs to be a cap on how much NIL money can be distributed to that recruit. Just like the NFL, it makes sure even the smaller market teams have a chance to compete. I mean if the NFL didn’t have the salary cap, the Dallas Cowboys would be winning the whole thing every year. The cap makes sure teams like Carolina and Jacksonville can adequately perform with the best of them.
My voice is irrelevant, I’m just a dude posting on a message board of my favorite team. But I just wanted to say one thing before I get shadowed by the thousands of post that come in today. I’m glad I have a coach that believes in the right values. He teaches his values to his players and they walk out differently then when they come in. Dabo is all that is right about college football.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:12 AM
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I've been saying for months and months that it was going to be chaos because of poor or no management by the NCAA. We're totally there. If they can't do anything, then a reorganization needs to occur. What is the Alliance for again? I thought education was primary to its existence, yet most of those schools are falling right in line.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:24 AM
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You are so true my friend. There's a lot of coaches in CFB that agree with Dabo. Heck, even lane kiffin. But Dabo talks and walks. Talks cheap, takes money to buy whiskey... Money in the sense of actions for those not familiar with the saying.
Right now, we know we have 5 that will do it the right way. Or I hope we have 5. Yes, I include Shane beamer. And probably Saban. I've got to have faith that the good coaches and AD's are collaborating behind the scenes. They know it. Confident Dabo will do it right. Not willing to sell my soul for a natty.
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I thought the NCAA was about the only group…
Jan 6, 2022, 10:26 AM
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trying to stop all this?
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:28 AM
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First off your voice is relevant. Second of all all I wonder exactly how much power ,or influence the NCAA has anymore in anything.
Unfortunately NIL is here to stay and it may take more clout, or power to enforce it than eve the NCAA still has. This thing may have to go through Congress to get the needed legislation to enforce it.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:31 AM
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100 % agree. I’m a Dabo and Clemson U fan. We could have won a lot more games in all sports by doing it the way that some of these factory so called University teams do. Many of these other schools are only interested in winning games for their cigar smoking rich fat cat boosters and don’t care for the athletes themselves. Dabo and Clemson U. want to win but caring for the student athlete comes first and paying for play is not done. How many recruits have we lost especially in BB because they were paid to go to Duke and North Carolina. ( Zion to Duke)- one example.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:53 AM
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The issue at hand is these are endorsement type deals. The NFL does not police or control endorsements and are independent of the salary cap. I do not see any legal way the NCAA controls NIL and are in uncharted territory.
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Orange Blooded [4743]
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:54 AM
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If the NCAA was going to allow players to be paid they should Have just given them a stipend of however much per player and then been done with it. Then there's no additional financial inventive for anyone to go elsewhere. This NIL thing, which allows basically any and every thing, was literally the worst thing they could have come up with.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 10:55 AM
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when both Texas school finish with less than 9 wins im sure you will realize the sky isnt falling
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 11:00 AM
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The NCAA isn't to blame for this mess.
The NCAA finally got to the point where it was tired of fighting it in court and having no power so they threw up their hands and said "have at it".
It's the people around the kids that have created the monsters, not some faceless entity that is supposed to police every college athletics program in the country.
The charade of the NCAA actually being able to do what it was designed to do has finally been torn down.
Everything else you said is true.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 11:38 AM
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Exactly, the Supreme Court is to blame. (Kavanaugh, who I supported, seemed to lead the charge.) Nothing the NCAA can do. Individual schools could discourage it, or maybe coaches could bench anybody with an NIL deal, but they won’t. Maybe tax laws could specify that NIL payments are not legitimate business expenses and not write offs. That might help.
But there is no easy fix, and no, kids aren’t going to turn down money in order to be a part of our culture. DeShaun pretty much took a wrecking ball to the whole culture argument anyway. Looks like the culture produced one of the creepiest people in the NFL.
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It isn't just Kavanaugh
Jan 6, 2022, 5:48 PM
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As divided as the Supreme Court is, the right of college athletes to earn money is one thing they are united on. The decision was 9-0!
Indeed, Kavanaugh took the time to write a concurring opinion that had very harsh language ripping the NCAA governing model and their abuse of "amateurism". He seems emotionally invested in this.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 11:38 AM
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Exactly, the Supreme Court is to blame. (Kavanaugh, who I supported, seemed to lead the charge.) Nothing the NCAA can do. Individual schools could discourage it, or maybe coaches could bench anybody with an NIL deal, but they won’t. Maybe tax laws could specify that NIL payments are not legitimate business expenses and not write offs. That might help.
But there is no easy fix, and no, kids aren’t going to turn down money in order to be a part of our culture. DeShaun pretty much took a wrecking ball to the whole culture argument anyway. Looks like the culture produced one of the creepiest people in the NFL.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 4:59 PM
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That's true, but there has to be a way to have some rules/guidelines in place otherwise it's just chaos. The NCAA has been broken for a long time. It's not really the solution. Some brainiacs out there can come up with one, I'm sure.
Chaos always indicates disaster lies ahead.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 11:50 AM
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The NCAA didn't approve this and now they are saying you got what you asked for. Now it's out if control, you can fix it through your state legislators who created this mess.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 11:58 AM
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The NCAA did not creat a generation of selfish players.that was none by our society at large. They just avoided solving a problem before they lost control.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 9:33 PM
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The NCAA did not creat a generation of selfish players.that was none by our society at large. They just avoided solving a problem before they lost control.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 12:13 PM
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Good post Mac. Appreciate your thoughts here.
I’d say the NCAA’s p!$s poor mismanagement of money in college athletics unfortunately led congress to getting involved. I don’t want to make this a political commentary but I don’t see a great track record in our country of elected officials in Washington “fixing” anything in pro or college sports. The NCAA has failed miserably. Personally I’d prefer not rely on them to fix anything. Get rid of them. Have major conferences broker solutions that bring some rules and structure to what is currently in place. I’m with you 100% on the NFL comments. People who say college is now like the NFL… I’d argue the NFL has a better free agent structure than what college has today.
As others have said though Mac, your voice is relevant. There are ways to direct your passion and contributions to help. My hope and dream is that Clemson continues to be a program of integrity, education, morality and winning. I know this won’t be easy but I do think it’s possible. There are kids with talent and some level of maturity out there, in high school and the transfer portal. We just have to go find them. The task of recruiting in the current environment will be more challenging than its ever been before. My hope is Dabo focuses more on continuing to grow and evolve our recruiting efforts so they are effective, relevant and in line with his and Clemson’s values. Just because this is hard doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Believe in Clemson. Go Tigers.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 4:45 PM
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IMO the NCAA has outlived it's usefulness. Needs to be abolished and start from scratch. Conferences can reach out and band together where philosophies are the same. Football and basketball will be straight up pay for play for many institutions. That's what's becoming the new reality. Meanwhile, the NCAA is trying to enforce silly rules about which days of the year a recruit can be contacted and how is he progressing in his declared major. They will now be minor league professional athletes. They can pursue a degree should they choose to do so. As for Title 9, well I don't think that's going to stand at some places. With all the money being funneled to football their won't be enough remaining to fund all these minor sports like crew. Those might become club teams or cease to exist unless NIL money can prop up some of these athletes. Other schools will want to stick to the amateur/student athlete model. That's fine too. Follow the Ivey League model. Different classification and they won't be able to compete with the minor league teams. No right or wrong just following the legal precedent. Why should a coach make 10 million per year while the players risking life and limb be compensated with only a meager scholarship? Makes no sense to me, but the courts will decide and new guidelines will evolve. I think the SEC can just about move forward at this point and create their own division. They are designed to be football factories and can regulate themselves without outside interference. Academics has been an afterthought at most of these schools for years. Times are changing.
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I doubt that the ncaa is able to fix much of anything
Jan 6, 2022, 4:48 PM
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anymore.
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You’ve hit on half the problem….the other half
Jan 6, 2022, 4:51 PM
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Is the new transfer rule. With nil and ability to transfer the richest can essentially steal players away from others. The ncaa has essentially created pro sports with no contracts. It’s why outside of watching Clemson games I don’t pay attention to college sports. The nfl is more pure now than college football. Like you mentioned there is a salary cap and a contract.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 5:25 PM
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I'm not going to watch 17 year old millionaires. I'm not going to invest any attention in a player who might transfer to Texas if he turns out to be any good. Be guarded in how much you fawn over Cade Klubnik.
The only thing that can save it is Congress passes an antitrust exemption like baseball. But I doubt there's any political will in either party to do that.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 6:04 PM
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Every single time politicians stick their nose where it doesn’t belong, it leads to destruction. Now they’ve destroyed college football
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NCAA has no power except over the programs who let them.
Jan 6, 2022, 5:27 PM
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Like Clemson. NCAA can't do #### to anyone. No reason for the schools to still obey their rules.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 6:43 PM
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The NCAA no longer has enough power to fix a sandwich.
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 7:05 PM
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I think the portal problem is worse. The one year wait rule must be re-instituted.
Unrestricted free agency will kill the sport
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CU Guru [1722]
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Re: The NCAA has a Problem to Fix
Jan 6, 2022, 7:05 PM
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I think the portal problem is worse. The one year wait rule must be re-instituted.
Unrestricted free agency will kill the sport
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