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YOUR BALANCE
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Jun 27, 2013, 11:35 AM

I keep seeing people keep posting that SC is no-where near as good as last year's team and we will collapse. Apparently we will go 8-4 or 7-5, Spurrier will retire, and Clemson will go back to its dominating ways. If this doesn't happen this year, it'll happen the year after. How in the world will this happen?? Please explain who we'll lose to and how? I can only laugh at some of these delusional comments.

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I don't know about all that collapse talk


Jun 27, 2013, 11:37 AM

but anyone can lose to anyone. Do you think you guys will go undefeated or something?

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Re: I don't know about all that collapse talk


Jun 27, 2013, 12:00 PM

I don't think we'll go undefeated, I think we'll go 11-1 losing to UGA @ UGA. Maybe 10-2 if UF or Clemson upset us at home.

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Re: I don't know about all that collapse talk


Jun 27, 2013, 12:05 PM

It's possible sure.

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So are you guys going to play two quarterbacks?***


Jun 27, 2013, 12:16 PM [ in reply to Re: I don't know about all that collapse talk ]



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Re: So are you guys going to play two quarterbacks?***


Jun 27, 2013, 12:26 PM

Yeah, I believe it'll be like the Michigan game. About 65% snaps go to Shaw, 35% for Thompson.

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Re: So are you guys going to play two quarterbacks?***


Jun 27, 2013, 1:42 PM

Oh ok. Thanks for the response.

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Re: So are you guys going to play two quarterbacks?***


Jun 27, 2013, 1:56 PM

No problem man! Always love to talk about some football.

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Here's How


Jun 28, 2013, 7:45 AM

The difference between winning and losing is sometimes razor thin and when you're dealing with college age kids, emotions can be back and forth. The thing usc-e has going for it, however, is an experienced QB and a friendly schedule.

First, the UGa game could go either way, but losing is certainly a possibility. I don't think Arkansas turns things around this quickly, but when you have a good coach arrive on campus, he can sometimes do amazing things, sometimes very quickly. Florida will be improved and a loss there is certainly a possibility. Again, I think UT is a couple years away, but you never know. Vandy has been improving by leaps and bounds. I think a loss to them in '14 on the road is much more likely than '13 at home, but they are a very well coached improving team. Losing to Clemson is always a possibility.

That's 6 very real possibilities and only 2 of them are stretches. Losing 4-5 games can happen. Clemson has had 2 seasons in recent memory where they lost more than most people would have thought. It can happen and once things go south, they can steamroll because of the kids' youth.

Realistically, I see '14 as a really tough year for the #####.

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Re: Here's How


Jun 28, 2013, 7:46 AM

Not to add to my own post, but losing to the Heels would surprise many, but shock no one. Losing to them next year might be predicted.

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You might get upset by UNC


Jun 27, 2013, 11:37 AM

You'll almost definitely lose to UGA.

Probably lose to UF too.

And then us of course! ;)

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They'll lose to Arky and the pundits will start using


Jun 28, 2013, 7:31 AM

the phrase, "pulling a Sakerlina."

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The definition of awesome!


Re: You might get upset by UNC


Jun 28, 2013, 10:36 PM [ in reply to You might get upset by UNC ]

North Carolina has an excellent quarterback and some good receivers. If their coaching staff can figure a way to neutralize Clowney, I think they will be able to move the ball at will. The gamecocks will have all new linebackers and an average secondary. Just block Clowney!

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Thee $ec EZ and THE CLEMSON TIGERS


Jun 27, 2013, 11:38 AM

will not be down forever... Name 1 elite team usuc has beaten...

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Shame on the lazy cooots for not jumping


Jun 27, 2013, 12:09 PM

On bama 2010. I'll give them that

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Re: Shame on the lazy cooots for not jumping


Jun 28, 2013, 7:47 AM

They've beaten decent UGa teams and Florida when they were down.

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No doubt about that***


Jun 28, 2013, 6:00 PM



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Re: Thee $ec EZ and THE CLEMSON TIGERS


Jun 27, 2013, 1:44 PM [ in reply to Thee $ec EZ and THE CLEMSON TIGERS ]

Bama

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Re: Thee $ec EZ and THE CLEMSON TIGERS


Jun 28, 2013, 12:23 AM

We can't live in the past but you can. Boom. Logic.

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We're inching closer to my nightmare scenario


Jun 27, 2013, 11:39 AM

An undefeated #1 USC playing an undefeated #2 Clemson in the last game of the season played at the cockroach. USC will be #1 because they're in the super-awesome SEC.

Not sure if I would go to that game because I don't trust the structural integrity of their stadium.

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Not to mention win or lose.....


Jun 27, 2013, 11:42 AM

you'd probably be killed.

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True. Even if the stadium didn't collapse.***


Jun 27, 2013, 11:50 AM



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tiggity, tiggity---it's awful early to be hittin' the hard


Jun 27, 2013, 11:58 AM [ in reply to We're inching closer to my nightmare scenario ]

stuff! Snap out of it man!!

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The SC Collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 11:43 AM

Sounds like a new dance!

:)

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Re: The SC Collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 2:30 PM

This is rural/urban Columbia, Fall 2013:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9hUffIDlKI

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Who cares...your team at its very best will still not EVER


Jun 27, 2013, 11:44 AM

win a trophy.

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8-4


Jun 27, 2013, 11:44 AM

Is a real possibility. UF , UGA and Clemson are all capable . Vandy and UNC could pull an upset with a few breaks. Heck , UT and MSU have to be taken seriously. The thing about ya schedule is that you are going to have to score more because the defense will be less than dominant this season. I think 9 wins is a good year with that offense , which aside from the 2 qbs is largely inexperienced.

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DB23


Re: 8-4


Jun 27, 2013, 12:12 PM

We have an experienced offense, Brandon Wilds and Mike Davis have started at some point, both TE's have experience, 4 of the 5 o-line return, our WRs are experienced but unproven besides Bruce, and then Shaw & Thompson at QB.

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"experienced but unproven" = Oxymoron . . . just sayin!***


Jun 27, 2013, 2:13 PM



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You could end up anywhere...


Jun 27, 2013, 11:48 AM

From 8-4 to 10-2.

I think you lose to UGA and Florida.

You should beat UNC. But you also have a tendency to start slow in the first game of the season, and UNC knows how to put up points.

The one true toss-up IMO is our game. There's no reason you shouldn't have at least 8 wins, but you won't surpass 10.

Probaby end up 9-3.


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Vandy scared the crap outta 'em last year---VANDY!!!***


Jun 27, 2013, 11:59 AM



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Re: You could end up anywhere...


Jun 27, 2013, 12:14 PM [ in reply to You could end up anywhere... ]

I think we'll lose at UGA but beat UF at home with them losing key members on their defense and really no improvement for their offense. I do not think we'll lose at home this year.

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Re: You could end up anywhere...


Jun 27, 2013, 12:16 PM

We'll see. You seem to be forgetting you're losing your top WR, top two RBs, and several key members of your defense as well.

You won't have a cakewalk season.

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Re: You could end up anywhere...


Jun 27, 2013, 12:32 PM

Absolutely, we'll be in a lot of close games this season. WR concerns me but we do have one of the best TE duos in the nation. RB doesn't concern me, both Wilds and Davis have stepped up when needed in the past. The only thing that concerns me is the BPU. Miles and Lattimore were some of the best at blitz-pickup so we'll see how Wilds and Davis perform. Losing DJ is huge but I believe our LBs are more athletic now and will make some big plays but will get burned early in the season. Over the last several seasons we have learned how to win close games compared to the first 5 seasons in Spurrier's tenure at SC.

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Re: You could end up anywhere...


Jun 28, 2013, 12:22 AM

That's funny, no offense but I can't even name one of your tight ends, so I can't call them "best in the nation."

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But you'll lose to UGA , who is rebuilding their entire D?!***


Jun 27, 2013, 2:08 PM [ in reply to Re: You could end up anywhere... ]



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BTW, guess who else is rebuilding their D . . . . see below!


Jun 27, 2013, 2:10 PM [ in reply to Re: You could end up anywhere... ]

Former Starters
Shaq Wilson LB
Devin Taylor DE
DJ Swearinger S
Byron Jerideau DT
Demario Jeffrey LB
Devonte Holloman S
Akeem Auguste CB

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I laugh at a coot posting on a tiger message board


Jun 27, 2013, 11:50 AM

and somehow expecting to be respected.

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Re Poor little coot expecting respect from this board.***


Jun 27, 2013, 1:01 PM



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I don't to whom you are referring to but I think that most


Jun 27, 2013, 11:52 AM

see the writing on the wall that the "glory days" of sc football are coming to an end (4 years of "glory years"). The best two players of all time at sc were Marcus Lattimore (whom y'all have not replaced that kind of talent) and Jadeveon Clowney (whom y'all will not be able to replace that kind of talent). So you may (or may not) have some success this year but the with you big in conference rivals coming out of their slump (which is why y'all had success to begin with) your little 4 year run is coming to an end so enjoy it while you can 'cause it's over---if not this year then next!

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sorry---the secretary took the day off!!***


Jun 27, 2013, 11:56 AM



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Re: I don't to whom you are referring to but I think that most


Jun 28, 2013, 10:22 PM [ in reply to I don't to whom you are referring to but I think that most ]

I listen to people dream all the time that Lattimore is gone, and that the run will end because they will never have another back that good. And they may not. But here is a news flash for you. His freshman year, Clemson decided to load the box to shut down Lattimore. Mission accomplished. Except it made CU single covers their wide outs that ran free at will. The last two years Lattimore didn't even play against CU. Add to that was that last year they lost their starting QB, and a backup made Clemson look silly as the back up went up and down the field. Now when Clowney leaves it will all be better. Do you think they are still not recruiting? Clemson has good players and will continue to have them. So will USC. But one person who doesn't graduate is that dammed ole ball coach. That is the difference.

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'Cause you suck.***


Jun 27, 2013, 11:57 AM



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May have a little something to do with this . . . . .


Jun 27, 2013, 11:57 AM

USC players gone for 2013

Starters
Shaq Wilson LB
Devin Taylor DE
DJ Swearinger S
Justin Cunningham TE
Kenny Miles RB
Lattimore RB
Byron Jerideau DT
Demario Jeffrey LB
Devonte Holloman S
Akeem Auguste CB
Ace Sanders WR

2-deep players
D.L. Moore
Kaleb Broome
T.J. Johnson
Aldrick Fordham
Quin Smith
Reginald Bowens
Jared Shaw

AND the long-snapper, holder and placekicker

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and the longsnapper on this years team is going to be very


Jun 27, 2013, 12:02 PM

important----the one on the punting unit

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I actually think USuCk will have a really good year with


Jun 27, 2013, 12:00 PM

your only losses coming from Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Vandy, and Clemson. UNC is a toss up, but I'll give you all the edge.

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"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


that's about an average year for them-loosing to those teams***


Jun 27, 2013, 12:03 PM



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From a program that owns 0-21....


Jun 27, 2013, 12:29 PM

that's a heck of a season.

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Exactly, it's all about perspective***


Jun 27, 2013, 12:30 PM



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"IDIOT POSTER OF THE MONTH SO FAR...GWP-- You have won IPM Award for your failure to completely comprehend a clear post & then choose to attack someone who points out your ignorance. While you are not yet in the same No Class Catagory as deRoberts, ClemTiger117 & Tigerdug23, you are getting closer to the Sewer Dwellers." - coachmac


no shame in that, although carolina may still have mo


Jun 27, 2013, 12:24 PM [ in reply to I actually think USuCk will have a really good year with ]

on their side after sending the chickens packing in the regional.

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Call out


Jun 27, 2013, 12:19 PM

Wilds and Davis have fill in duty experience, and neither are gamebreaker type backs like Splattimore was. Your WR core is unproven except Andre's cousin and that OLine is marginal. At best you avg 24 ppg this year . Good luck with that.

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DB23


Honestly


Jun 27, 2013, 12:31 PM

I want y'all to not win at all. But I think 9-3 or 8-4 is really reasonable. Everyone above me have already posted the reasons.

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Re: Maybe you should go ask that question on YOUR BOARD***


Jun 27, 2013, 12:40 PM

nm

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I suppose it's the nature of the beast that requires both


Jun 27, 2013, 12:44 PM

camps to "expect" each other to plummet gracelessly...or at least to wish fervently for such an ungainly outcome. Quite often, however, both are somewhat perplexed with the actual results, and, therefore, must recharge all batteries in preparation for the next round. There remains two indisputable facts: BOTH Coaches Swinney and Spurrier WILL win some games, perhaps, a good many...and both WILL have their own "special" comments about our rivalry. Meanwhile, you'll just have to accept our most fervent "wishes," while we will surely suffer yours! lol

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Re: Go home. Nothing can be explained to a dirtpecker


Jun 27, 2013, 12:58 PM

with chicken brains.

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I've gotta say...


Jun 27, 2013, 1:22 PM

SC has a very favorable schedule and it sets up nicely.

The game @UGA will obviously be a battle and home games against UNC, us and UF will be tough. Vandy will challenge but I think they take a small step back this year.

That 3 game road stretch in October....I'd like to say I see an upset there, but Arkansas just wont cut it, UT is in serious offensive rebuilding mode and I just don't know about Mizzou.

I see another 10-2 or better season if all players stay healthy and you get those favorbable bounces here and there.

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4 years!


Jun 27, 2013, 1:40 PM

Only had 4 years of success in the entire life of there college football! That's it!! So why on earth are they talking like they are something to even have a conversation about? Bc they have beaten our beloved tigers 4 years in a row? That's all ya got to hang your feathers on! That is better than nothing I reckon

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The only thing laughable is the fact that you are hanging


Jun 27, 2013, 2:05 PM

out on our message board.
Go away.

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I don't think SC will collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 2:11 PM

I think they will be a good team. But, any team can lose on any given day. That's all I'm saying.

PS: You may now leave for FGF.

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 2:16 PM

It's a comin'!!!!! Can't wait!!!

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Your delusions are what's BS'n you, Lil' Bitty


Jun 27, 2013, 2:52 PM

Shall we review your history, AGAIN? I'll be glad to sit you in the corner with that DUNCE hat that looks so putty on ya!

Pitchfork is giving you just a little more rope than usual to hang yourself with. Just don't gopussy and hide from the light of this board when it happens.

-DNT

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Didn't you know?


Jun 27, 2013, 3:15 PM

Gamecoot Football didn't start until 2009. And they still have no trophies.

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Re: You're on a rivals board and its the time of year when


Jun 27, 2013, 5:10 PM

every opponent\rival is at the cliff of pending destruction.

Find a Harvard board and you can find posts about the pending collapse of Yale and the coming bloodletting to occur.

It is the way of college football.

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SC loses to these teams


Jun 27, 2013, 5:45 PM

UNC, they will come into ChickenCoop and dominate with their offense

UGA - they are a better team and it's a road game

Miss ST or Vandy - one of them will pull what will be called an upset,

Florida - they are a better team and will be better than last year

Clemson - the ride is over, Clemson has the better team this year

possible losses

UCF - don't be surprised to lose this road game,
Tenn - they should have won last year, it will happen this year

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That's mighty hopeful...


Jun 27, 2013, 7:18 PM

UNC has a nice offense, but zero defense. None. Nada.

Agree with UGA

Ehhh... not seeing it with Miss. State or Vandy.

Agree with Florida.

If we play like we've all seen us play, we'll win. An LSU type game from the offense, minus the turnovers, and we could win by a decent margin.

They won't lose to UCF.

Tennessee lost way too much to be any good this year.

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Re: SC loses to these teams


Jun 28, 2013, 12:18 AM [ in reply to SC loses to these teams ]

I have a hard time seeing all this happen, even as a Clemson fan.

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You guys will always be good and never go back to sucking


Jun 27, 2013, 9:53 PM

Lol

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Nice post for the "Tiger Football" forum.***


Jun 27, 2013, 9:59 PM



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There's something in these hills.


SC has a very easy schedule this year


Jun 27, 2013, 10:57 PM

They play UGA (who is completely rebuilding their D) right after what figures to be a BATTLE with us. Keep in mind how LSU's players were dropping like flies in the bowl game last year. Advantage goes to Carolina (even though UNC certainly COULD upset them, I just don't really see it happening).

Ark, Tenn, UCF, Vandy? I don't see any great teams in there. Do not even get me started on Kentucky and Missouri, who are both horrendously bad. For all the gum flappin that Carolina does about the SEC, they sure have a candy ### schedule.

Then they play Florida, who I'm not sure how talented they are. They really got a hurtin put on them by Louisville in the bowl. But then again they destroyed Carolina last year so I'll give them the advantage.

Then they play us. I certainly feel we have the more talented team this season, and I believe we will win. However, I've said that before in the past four years and obviously it hasn't turned out that way, so I'll put that one as a toss up (with the advantage going to us of course).

The bottom line is that Scar loves to wave its SEC flag around, when in reality, they don't play anyone relevant in the SEC (all of the good teams are in the West).

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To be fair we only have 3 tough games


Jun 27, 2013, 11:04 PM

UGA, FSU, and USuC. Maybe throw in GT and their Mickey Mouse offense. That's college football. The elite teams easily beat the teams they're supposed to beat and win against other elite teams or lose in a close one. I'm just glad that we're finally on the right track again.

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Re: To be fair we only have 3 tough games


Jun 28, 2013, 12:22 AM

I agree, I wouldn't say we have a grueling schedule aside from those three games. My point being is that since we don't have a tough schedule, you don't see Clemson fans running around chanting "ACC! ACC! ACC!" On the other hand, Scar has a schedule that is no tougher than ours and you will undoubtedly hear all of their fans talk about how the ACC is a cupcake conference and the SEC is God's gift to football.

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 11:07 PM

I just hear that you lost a lot of your D that was part of a very good recruiting class and that you have small receivers. Oh, and you have a manimal named Clowney. How do you think you guys would do if Clowney went down? Seems like that would be like us losing Tajh. From what little I've read, your O can be mediocre because Clowney can get the ball back for you and carry the team on his back.

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 27, 2013, 11:13 PM

Sakerlina will finish 8-4. Mark it down

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 28, 2013, 12:16 AM

I don't see a collapse but i also don't see 12-0 like I've read. Your QB situation is very shaky, two QBs = no QBs. Running back is a question mark, can Davis be the guy? Lack of receivers has to be scary for you guys. Offensive line will be fine, defensive line will be great, linebackers could be a question mark, secondary will be fine. I don't see an implosion but I also wouldn't start counting your chickens and scheduling an SEC East title right now.

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 28, 2013, 10:34 PM

I have to disagree with your position.

South Carolina's quarterback position is far from shaky. The Gamecock's two QB option isn't out of necessity but of luxury as each have proven themselves more than efficient - I believe Shaw is a fourth year senior with the highest winning percentage in the school's history and Thompson has performed very capably when called on - I do not believe there is any continuity issues with the offense and the two are interchangeable.

Didn't Wilds fill in for Lattimore two years ago as a true frosh? I recall him doing a pretty decent job, esp against Tenn. Davis did well last year in a limited role as a true frosh.

Their receiving corp has three third year guys (Ellington, Byrd and Jones) who catch the ball well enough and move upfield - don't forget about the excellent pass catching TE in Anderson.

The LB will be a question mark but the surrounding cast should help them along.

9-3 or 10-2

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my thoughts


Jun 28, 2013, 12:17 AM

Since when does unproven equal bad? Behind sammy, the WRs are notnproven. Mcdowell is really unproven. There aee always guys step up, just because we dont have superstars top to bottom doesnt mean we will dropoff.

Now, do we have spots to fill on defenae? Yes but let us be very realistic. Our linebackers have not been very good the last few years so i dont think they can be worse. We will be young there but overall more talented but will make lota of mistakea in coverage. Our dline will create a lot of pressure tho so in my mind they offset eachother. Our only reall big loss is Swearinger. Jow the secondary does this year will tell the tale.


I think beating UGA in Athens will be tough. I think we will drop one more, probably Florida but I do think we keep streak alive vs you guys and finish 10-2.I think clemson will field a solid team but i think it is all mental honestly. Tahj is great QB1 but we are in his head and playing at home is the key this year. Thr streak will end soon for sure but not just yet.

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Re: my thoughts


Jun 28, 2013, 12:27 AM

I think both teams go 10-2 with Clemson beating South Carolina. I'm not as confident as some, but I just feel like this team stacks up better than last year's team. Both programs have holes that need to be filled before we can start guaranteeing wins though. The game in November will be decided by one score or less either way in my opinion.

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 28, 2013, 12:25 AM

Ok, now since it appears that mostly reasonable Clemson fans showed up. Ask the coots what they think of Clemson upcoming season, where will the Tigers be come bowl season?

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Re: SC Collapse


Jun 28, 2013, 9:05 PM

The offense will replace 3 starters.

Lattimore at running back, TJ Johnson at center, and Ace Sanders at WR.

Return 4 of 5 OL, Bruce Ellington and Byrd at WR who contributed last season, two solid QBs, and two running backs, Davis and Wilds, who logged some snaps within the past two seasons. Wilds actually took over full time when Lattimore went down 2 seasons ago and did fairly well.

The defense will replace 6 starters.

DJ st Safety, Holloman at Spur, Shaq and Demario at LB, Byron J at DT, and Devin Taylor at DE.

Return the best player in college football, JD Clowney along with All-SEC DT K. Quarles. Chaz Sutton will man the other DE position and he play significant snaps last season. Look at him to have better numbers than Devin Taylor did under new DLine coach Deke Adams. Linebackers will be replaced by guys who are fresh off the meat grinder so who know how that will turn out. Spur will be manned by either Sharod Golightly or Diggs. Both played the postion well when given an opportunity. Corners will remain the same. Hampton and Legree. Brison williams at one saftey spot, and TJ Gurley most likely at the other.

Last years team lost two first round picks off of it and was still a top D in the country. So i feel, with the talent that has been accumulated, the D will fare just as well. The offense, while returning a lot, does lose lattimore and has no big play WR. So we shall see! I am going with 10 wins with losses to UGA and a slip up.

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CLOWNEY


Jun 28, 2013, 9:25 PM

Is not the best defensive player in college football , much less the best overall. He is very good and will be a top ten pick , but lets not get ahead of ourselves with these "best ever" claims . 8-5 , thats what i predict for Sackerlina. 10 wins looks like a longshot with the team having a pretty solid sched and much less quality and depth at a few very key predictions.

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Re: CLOWNEY


Jun 28, 2013, 10:08 PM

Take off the orange glasses, Clowney will be the #1 pick next year and you are one of the few who doesn't think he is the best defensive player in college football. Ask Tajh what he thinks.

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*positions***


Jun 28, 2013, 9:26 PM



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thats because youre delusional***


Jun 28, 2013, 10:07 PM



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Re: Re: CLOWNEY


Jun 28, 2013, 10:19 PM

I said he would be a top ten pick. I guess my glasses might be a little orange tinted but there are at least 4-6 dedensive players in next yrs NFL draft that are as solid a pick as Doo Doo Clowney.

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Not the only one


Jun 28, 2013, 10:28 PM

Noah Spence and Mario Edwards are two DEs that could be early draft picks , That DT Johnson at LSU is a top ten pick. Armstead at Oregon will be a beast.
Clowney is a good one , but he isnt the greatest thing on the planet , unless you work for E$EcPN and get paid to hype the league you are in a huge business contract with.

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