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Pictures of Wake Forest helmet

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Sep 11, 2020, 10:40 AM

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They forgot to take the flag off.***

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they need to add a antifa flag

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heh..a Howard Stern fist over a swastika, with a hammer


Sep 11, 2020, 5:15 PM

ans sickle in the corner for good measure.


That can't be a real flag.

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They could have just used this and killed to birds

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:02 PM
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(American Eagles) with one stone.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:22 PM

I think BLM should just go ahead and use this as their symbol, same basic meaning -



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You don't think that would trigger them?***


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Sep 11, 2020, 10:50 AM

Makes an appropriate statement. I am sure that Clemson will make an appropriate statement also. The football statement will be appropriate and purely Clemson. GO TIGERS!

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:27 AM

So, appropriate statement? Like.."if the cops don't stop trying to arrest drug addicts, rapists and robbers we gonna burn this country down"?

Oh yeah, makes me want to watch a football game for sure.

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"Black Lives Matter" throws some people into a RAGE!

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:55 AM

Like the Bob Woodward book by the same name.

Nothing throws these people into an overcaffeinated rage like the three simple words

"Black Lives Matter."

Why is that?

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Because it's a total misnomer?***

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:05 PM



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All animals are equal, but some animals are more

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:13 PM

equal than others.

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Re: "Black Lives Matter" throws some people into a RAGE!

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:06 PM

Because they suck.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:23 PM

Because they have not donated one penny to any black people and it all goes to the democratic party fund. Also they don't care about black lives of kids or people in neighborhoods that are getting shot. Lastly it is a communist organization that wants to do away with law and order so they can burn loot and murder without resistance. Any more questions?

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:38 PM


Like the Bob Woodward book by the same name.

Nothing throws these people into an overcaffeinated rage like the three simple words

"Black Lives Matter."

Why is that?




When you say "some people"...are you talking about some people that are looting, burning buildings and shooting fireworks at police while trying to blind them with lasers?

Or are you talking about some people that don't want to change the uniform of their favorite team?

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No rage here.

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:55 PM

But let's start with you explaining what you think the organization "black lives matter" stands for. Putting this dumb stuff on football helmets promtes the organization. Its like an advertisement, and I'm sure BLM is laughing as they collect profits from this ridiculous free advertising. So again, you support the advertising, so please describe in your own words what this "company" stands for and what they're selling.

Obviously you think there is a problem in the country and that people don't think black lives matter. So,

1. What are these issues?
2? What are uour firsthand experience with these issues?
3. What do you propose we (America) need to do to gix these "issues"?

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Sep 11, 2020, 4:13 PM

Could people not read that as a simple statement rather than as an endorsement of a particular organization ??

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Raised fists?***


Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 PM



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OK, so what is the statement then?


Sep 11, 2020, 6:28 PM

Just that black lives matter? To throw this around as a statement is to act as if black lives don't currently matter. Which is bull ####.

If I made a national spectacle out of a few incidents involving police officers and white people, then could I pander to the NFL and sports teams to put white lives matter on a helmet? Take any race and you can find alleged "injustice" - so does each race get a helmet with their race on it? Can each race paint MY RACE MATTERS on streets in America?

Or would this be seen as racist rhetoric? No need to answer. The answer is as plain as day, yet too many suckers are failing to see it.

Black people are not oppressed. They are not systemically held down. There is no injustice in law or any walk of life against any race. To say so amounts to either sheer ignorance, victim mentality and blaming others for our positions, or flat out racism... like the board racist mouthpiece HBROWN is allowed to spew here on a regular basis. He says stuff like white people do bad things to black people. Like there is a system in place to hold black men down. Like blacks are oppressed and whites are privileged, like they don't have to work just as hard in life to achieve their potential.

It's bull ####. All of it. And it has no place on this board - even if on a separate page, as if it's not a public forum on those pages. HBROWN spews openly racist views, misinformation, and outright lies. So why are people of race X not allowed to this in America? BECAUSE IT'S RACIST. That's why.

People need to wake the heck up. This "movement" and certainly the organization is poison to our society. It's teaching our kids that it really does exist. Like black lives don't currently matter in America? Gimme a break.

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No no no


Sep 11, 2020, 2:43 PM

You got it all wrong. It's about the fact police officers are targeting and killing black people for no reason.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:03 PM

It is absolutely INAPPROPRIATE to promote a racist, Marxist, anti-America Left Wing pig organization, Black Lives Matter, whose leaders have vowed to destroy the U.S. and it's most precious institutions, including the nuclear family. KEEP POLITICS AND FAKE SOCIAL JUSTICE SLOGANS OUT OF ALL SPORTS.

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Oh shutup. You don't even know what Marxism is, boomer.


Sep 11, 2020, 2:33 PM

Fox News lied to you and now you walk around like you know something. Stop hating black people, racist.

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You do realize boomer is an ageist pejorative right?***


Sep 11, 2020, 2:43 PM



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And ageism in NOWHERE near on the destructive level


Sep 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

as racism.

You think you are being cute, but you are just another racist #######.

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bigotry is bigotry guy...and please link my racists posts***


Sep 11, 2020, 2:54 PM



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Black. Lives. Matter.


Sep 11, 2020, 2:59 PM

Whether you think/want them to or not.

And the sooner older, racist, white ######## die off...the better off this world will be.

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You're real good at the namecalling, but I can't help but


Sep 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

notice you responded to my post without providing the racist links I requested...Odd huh? It's almoooost like you shot off your mouth without a shred of evidence...Can you provide the necessary links or are you willing to apologize for your wrongful accusations?

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still waiting on those links guy...Sorry to make a liar out


Sep 11, 2020, 5:31 PM

of you and all, but if you're going to lie, it's really on you anyway...Or you could just apologize for lying and I would let it go without another mention

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In your own words...


Sep 11, 2020, 2:39 PM

What statement is that?

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Sep 11, 2020, 10:50 AM

Its nothing major. Tiny.

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:08 AM

So was the Confederate flag over the State House.

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:44 PM

We are talking about College Football. Not politics.

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LOL.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:03 PM

Hopefully this ransom is enough to not have their campus burned down.

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:04 AM

Makes sense that TNet exploded yesterday over this...

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:06 AM

Hope Clemson scores 70.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:07 PM

Hope Wake Forest and their woke team never scores a single point all year.

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BLM fist symbol is almost identical to Socialist fist symbol

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... just sayin'

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Che and Fidel would be most pleased....

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:27 AM

.... but Ike and John F.... not so much....

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:24 PM

Well that is what they are modeled after.

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:10 AM

Nothing says "unity" like a clenched fist.

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Ora

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:11 AM

I do not like it.

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:11 AM

The article made it seem like the clinched fist was instead of the WF not in addition to it. I wish everything wasn’t so political (small “p”) but this certainly could have been worse.

Play ball

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WF and fist look like they were cut out with dull scissors.***


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Sep 11, 2020, 11:16 AM

Honoring rapist, drug addicts , that couldn't follow directs or they would still be here. Sorry folk call it like it is.

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How many court cases for rape are waiting in court for our president? 26?


Sep 11, 2020, 2:44 PM

If any of them prove true. I’m guessing 1 of the 26 may be. Should he be in the same category as so called rapists as Jacob Blake? Think y’all. None of those crimes is is worthy of being shot on the street. Just like president trump, he deserves a day in court before he is penalized or judged as not needing our care, protection and attention under the law. We are shielding the president from 26 accusations of rape right now. I know. I know- the liberals are behind all 26 accusations. I know- the Russian probe was wrong so the 26 accusations are wrong. Fire away.

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Re: How many court cases for rape are waiting in court for our president? 26?

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Sep 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

Blake’s intentions and actions didn’t put officers in danger? I’d love to know what you would have done in the officers’ shoes. He wasn’t shot because of his crime/s... He was shot for threatening the lives of the officers that were forced to deal with his criminal behavior.

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There Was a Better Unity Image in "Animal House"

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Helmet back is ok with US Flag & BLM Marxist logo NOT used

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:29 AM

but the clinched fist reminds me of the Black athletes at the Olympics many years ago in defiance to the USA..something the young Wake players probably don’t know about.

At least the clinched fist is small.

Overall, let’s beat the Demon Deacons!

Go TiGERS!

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My gracious, William. At least you

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:55 AM

are consistent.

Why would a black athlete be "defiant towards the USA" in the 1960s? The NERVE of them. Their act, according to a participant:

"was a cry for freedom and for human rights. We had to be seen because we couldn't be heard."

I can assure you these kids understand exactly what was going on. And they also understand that we can improve upon the progress made over the last 50 years.

Just give up and boycott. Please. And take your rhetoric with you.

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:00 PM

Didn't do any good then.....won't do any good now. Lets put our efforts to real reform.

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Please take your own advice.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:12 PM

Just give up and boycott. Please. And take your rhetoric with you.

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If the concept of improving racial equality presented as

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:30 PM

much inconvenience in my life as apparently it does others, I probably would. Trouble is, I happen to think it's a good thing. So no boycott for me, and the phrase black lives matters won't trigger me into spewing snowflake political nonsense nor canceling watching football.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:27 PM

They have their freedom and rights. Now they want to kill everything white because we are evil. One day maybe you will have the brain capacity to understand what is really going here. it really isn't about race anymore. This is good vs evil.

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Just know that people love you and that you can get help.***

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:32 PM



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Re: My gracious, William. At least you

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

Brother, turn off fox news and go interact with a black person. They don't want to kill you or any other white person.

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What is wrong with you?


Sep 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

You think the people disagreeing with this racist movement and giving it free advertising are upset because white people think black people want to kill white people? And you heard this on Fox News??

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Sep 11, 2020, 6:04 PM

Did you read who i replied to? The guy who literally said that?

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We really have some dumb fans...***

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Oh ok.


Sep 11, 2020, 2:46 PM

So black folks have less freedom and human rights?

What are your top 5 proposals for change? I bet you can't come up with 3.

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So you have no examples?


Sep 11, 2020, 6:30 PM

Exactly.

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Sep 11, 2020, 11:58 AM

How could anybody disagree with anybody that disagrees with this on college football uniforms.

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The fist is total BS, that is the black confederate flag***

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They have no idea what that fist is a symbol of.

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https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

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The clenched fist has been a Communist/Marxist symbol since

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the beginning of that evil ideology. It goes as far back as the First (Communist) International in 1864. During the Russian revolution, the Bolsheviks used the clench fist as the "Red Salute" and in 1926 the German Communists (RFD) proudly displayed their clinched fist pendants and emblems as well as the hand salute.

In the USA, just about every Communist and Socialist organization since 1900 has used the clinched fist as a symbol within their organization - most commonly to represent their desire for revolution. Everyone from the Socialist Democratic Federation of America to the Communist Party USA to the Progressive Labor Party have used the Marxist clinched fist and recognize it as a universal symbol of Marxism.

In the 1960's the Black Liberation and Black Panther movements (both of which are Marxist/Communist organizations) use the black clinched fist as a symbol of their "struggle". The BLM founders (all of whom are admitted Marxists), adopted the black clinched fist symbol which is nothing more than a nod to their Marxist idols and fellow travelers.

It is one thing to refer to Black Lives Matter in the context that Black Human lives matter (of course they do) but it is a completely different matter to say that one supports the Marxist BLM organization. Wittingly or not, by putting this clinched fist on their helmet, Wake Forest is sending the message they support the Marxist BLM organization which, like all Marxist ideological driven organizations, derives their power from dividing people through hatred and envy.

I certainly hope Clemson's message (if they have one) will be from a place of love and unity and not the hate and division of Marxism and their organizational adherents. But if Clemson puts Marxist symbols anywhere on their uniforms, then Clemson will have seen the last dime they will ever get from me.

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Recruits and Parents of recruits!!! Look at these responses... now it goes to P&R

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:33 PM

I refuse to let you small minded, uninformed folks destroy our university and football program by harping on BLM and their goals. No organization’s founding and founding principles are all good- including our own country. So the founding fathers were not Marxist but they were white supremacist and racist who didn’t consider black people equal. But you will excuse it away- right? Should I not go to the Thomas Jefferson monument because of his sinful, broken and stupid view on people my color? They demeaned people for economic gain and then later a whole group of them seceded to keep that way of life alive- economically; which meant slavery would go on until it was no longer economically necessary. If I had a hypothetical choice Would I rather be a Marxist and be free or be in a democracy and be seen as not equal. Easy choice. Some folks still don’t feel free in and by this dispensation of democracy. Some would rather be equal under Marxist methods than mistreated under this kind of democracy. Not saying it will be true or Marxism is right. Please don’t go after that. I am just speaking to the hypocrisy of being angry about the founders and foundation of BLM when our very own country was built on sinful and unbiblical view of humankind. We can get mad at BLM for going after the nuclear family but our own founders of this country did not think the same for blacks when they were split up as families and sold off and even breeded. So don’t act self righeous!!! Show some empathy in how things get started.

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:46 PM

Yet nobody you have ever known or will know was a slave or owned slaves .
You sir are an idiot and is what’s wrong with this
so called movement.
America is the greatest Country hands down not even close .

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Never said America was not the greatest. I love my country- it’s mine as much as anyone elses


Sep 11, 2020, 12:48 PM

But I was pointing out the shaky beliefs of the founders just like the founders of BLM are being criticized- we could just as easily pointed to some critical flaws in their saying all men are created equal when they didn’t actually include people like me in that. My point exactly- it turned out better than what they had and were able to imagine- why couldn’t BLM be the same way?

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Re: Never said America was not the greatest. I love my country- it’s mine as much as anyone elses

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:56 PM

You mean destroy everything that they don’t agree with and give 12% of the population every thing they want . Regardless of who it ruins. Yeah OK buddy.
Got to have middle ground and it can’t happen over night. Things where headed in the right direction and now it’s starting to slip backwards.

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Black lives mattering is not important to 12% of Americans- think!!!


Sep 11, 2020, 1:02 PM

Many Americans not just black ones agree that more can be done to help black Americans thrive in their own country. See Trevor Lawrence who wants it but is not part of the 12% for example. Better Black American participation and joy in the American dream and experience would be good to and for 100% of the population- right? This is not an attack on white America or America but on whiteness and white privilege and structures that might propagate those things. If you are not a part of making sure whiteness is standard or harming blacks and others opportunity to feel loved and prosperous here then this should feel good to you. So, more than 12%

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And here you are attacking white America

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Sep 11, 2020, 3:01 PM

You are ignorant. Period. Black, white, yellow, brown, red. You are an open, ignorant, and offensive racist. You need to be banned from this site immediately.

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1st amendment and posted in P&R.. sorry you disagree with me


Sep 11, 2020, 3:26 PM

nm

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Yeah right, hiding blatant racism behind 1st admendment?


Sep 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

Hogwash.

No one is treated unfairly in this country. All lives matter. Period. The end.

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Black lives mattering is not important to 12% of Americans- think!!!


Sep 11, 2020, 1:03 PM

Many Americans not just black ones agree that more can be done to help black Americans thrive in their own country. See Trevor Lawrence who wants it but is not part of the 12% for example. Better Black American participation and joy in the American dream and experience would be good to and for 100% of the population- right? This is not an attack on white America or America but on whiteness and white privilege and structures that might propagate those things. If you are not a part of making sure whiteness is standard or harming blacks and others opportunity to feel loved and prosperous here then this should feel good to you. So, more than 12%

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Oh, how rich. Now someone needs to have either been

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:04 PM

a slave or personally know a slave in order to be able to point out the hypocrisy of those that seem to get so triggered about the concept of improving racial equity. Got it.

I can assure you MOST people DO personally know people that have been downright discriminated against because of the color of their skin. People that have been treated differently. People that have been denied certain rights or opportunities. And yes let me add the obligatory it happens to all races. It really does. Don't know anyone? It may be that you don't associate with minorities. It more likely means they haven't felt comfortable telling you about their experiences, and if that's the case you should ask YOURSELF why.

I mean, what's so wrong with acknowledging that our fellow humans of black skin color deal with different things than others at times? What's so wrong with having empathy and support for that?

Are you a man of prayer? Ever pray for someone? Did that mean that you want everyone else on earth to go to hell?

I agree America is the greatest country hands down not even close. I also believe we can continue to grow and improve.

To deny there are issues, simply read this board. It's a great start.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

I just ate lunch with my brother from another mother who happens to be a soul brotha .
He said that the dude who made the post I replied to was a race baiter . You see he is 45 and was raised to love God, respect people, obey the law and work hard. His whole family mothers side and fathers are all pretty successful. They have lived great life’s just being the good people that they are.
You see the Key is being a good person doesn’t matter what color. NOT ANYMORE!

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I had lunch with Trevor Lawrence and he said..

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:11 PM

that things need to change for black people. You found one, I found one. JK about having lunch with trevor.. But come on with the tired ole-
"my one or two black friends" stuff. I am a pastor of church with about 300+ white friends who would disagree with you and your one black friend. Thats what makes the whole 1776 group so laughable... you find one or two blacks to support your view when black folks know 100's who support theirs. It just tells me that you don't really know that many black people. You don't live among many of us, worship with us being a critical mass in your church, or fellowship with us over these issues. I am sick and tired of the I got a black friend, or I know a black guy, or the twins over at 1776 say. That is straight racist!

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Re: I had lunch with Trevor Lawrence and he said..

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:43 PM

I have lived in Florence all my life a city that is about half black but never been around black people. LOL. You see we don’t have any racist problems here because we all respect each other. The People that are having problems need to start with their own life and stop blaming it on everyone else

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You missed it... I was talking about the % in your city but

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:52 PM

how many convos have you had a listened to and taken personal responsibiity for...besides the one or two. How many have been in your home, and how many homes have you been in, as a guest? More than one or two? What about your church? what about your neighborhood and associations?

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* not talking about %..


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Re: You missed it... I was talking about the % in your city but

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Sep 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

Do you have some number that would be good enough to prove to you he is not a racist? If he isn’t invited into a black family’s home how does that support him not being for equality? Asking an unbiased African American.

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Notice how he never even tries to answer questions like this


Sep 11, 2020, 6:42 PM

His act is pure racism. Period. He has no facts, no proposals. Nothing. He is using his skin color for "privilege" to spout nonsense like he does, and that's really all there is to it.

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Grateful for your perspective HBROWN. So glad to have you


Sep 11, 2020, 2:56 PM

here!!!

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So if you're concerned about racism, then why don't


Sep 11, 2020, 3:18 PM

you do your part to become less ignorant and stop spewing racism, from a pulpit no less.

Look, jerk, I have at least 50 black friends and family. YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR THEM!

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I never said I spoke for your 50 (ha) black friends and fam.


Sep 11, 2020, 3:29 PM

I never said to speak for all black people.. just like the one or two black friends folks have don't speak for all of us. You sound like the BC player who got mad at Trevor and said Trevor doesn't speak for college football. Save it man.

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Re: I never said I spoke for your 50 (ha) black friends and fam.

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Sep 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

God still loves you Hashbrown even though you are a race-baiter.

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That's racist!


Sep 11, 2020, 6:40 PM

It assumes all hash is brown and has hash brown privilege.

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That's just it, you don't speak for black people. You speak


Sep 11, 2020, 6:38 PM

for yourself and others are are blind.

Name 5 things in America that are unfair to blacks or any other race. Then name 5 proposed solutions You can't do it. You just want to play a false victim card because of things that happened in this country decades or hundreds of years ago. It's 2020 - everyone is just as equal and the same freedom and opportunities as the next. If a black or white man ends up incarcerated - who's fault is it? His or his choices in life?

And yet again, that little "ha" comment just goes to show an very big lack of character on your part. You are an open racist, exhibiting what amounts to nothing more than "black privilege". You're a fraud pal.

I will not "save it" until you do, jerk.

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So you're admitting the BLM is going after the nuclear

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Sep 11, 2020, 12:59 PM

family?

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Re: So you're admitting the BLM is going after the nuclear

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:06 PM

it is stated so on their website

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No. They don’t want not having a nuclear family to be a non qualifier

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:08 PM

In joining the cause- read their beliefs carefully. They don’t want the nuclear family to be the goal of their organization which is made up of a number of people from broken homes. So many people are invalidated if they are single mothers or lead single family homes as needing to fix their family before they can speak to other issues. They don’t want that to be a disqualifier or point of condemnation for those who don’t and won’t have nuclear families. Get it? Disrupt is the word they use. String word- I know. But in context it means they want to stop the oppression of non-nuclear families as being less than those who have one. A single mom should be accepted and heard and lead without a husband or father in the home as anyone else. I am not saying I am not for the nuclear family but I for and respect people who are not in one and want to stop the condemnation and silencing of those who don’t have the traditional family setup. Get it?

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Re: No. They don’t want not having a nuclear family to be a non qualifier

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:29 PM

You are clueless. Pass the offering plate...

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Re: No. They don’t want not having a nuclear family to be a non qualifier

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:00 PM

Hey man, great response with no thought behind it to the gentleman's well thought out and informed post. Willful ignorance strikes again.

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Re: No. They don’t want not having a nuclear family to be a non qualifier


Sep 11, 2020, 2:12 PM

I don’t think single mother families are oppressed or not accepted by today's society. They are just set up for economic struggles or failure. The reality is that this is one of the major true culprits for unequal outcomes - its simply an economic reality. To advocate for this lifestyle via a culturally destructive group like BLM or via government incentives is morally wrong and should not be put on a pedestal as something wonderful, even if its under the guise of an unarguable inoculate tag line.

In general, I think most of the disagreement we are seeing would be shelved if those pushing for improvements would simply disavow this hate group. I think being a little more specific in general about what they would like to see improved would help clarify intentions instead of speaking in such vague platitudes.

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You are proving my point.


Sep 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

If there is a single mother who wants to be in leadership in an organization that believes it is challenging white surpremacy in america, one of the immediate challenges to her voice and a large population like her or him.. will be "fix your family situation." They are saying that this woman and her family setup, whether it is a "lifestyle" choice or life situation that happened (praise God she kept her babies, right?)-she can be a valued part of the movement.

The non-nuclear family has advocacy in and by BLM and not just criticism and trying to "fix" them so they can be more acceptable to white american (mainly christian) culture. They no longer have to live up to a"standard" that has been used against them. I can't tell you how many times I've heard black voices muted, with a comment about how it's not racism, it's all these "fatherless" chlldren. BLM rejects that as a precursor to speaking truth to power.

Now of course I know and see the benefits of being in a nuclear family. I highly recommend and commend it... but I understand why they are saying what they are saying to strengthen the civil rights goals of their particular organization.

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MODS please get this racist off the board!


Sep 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

He's a fricken poison.

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Re: Recruits and Parents of recruits!!! Look at these responses... now it goes to P&R

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:12 PM

Your all to familiar perspective on the founding of America is appalling, though not unexpected, given the indoctrination by Left Wing revisionist "professors."

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Re: Recruits and Parents of recruits!!! Look at these responses... now it goes to P&R


Sep 11, 2020, 1:28 PM

Let them look. Look at the way we develop the players educationally, socially, and career wise. If that isnt a step above others then they dont get it. If they are put off only by some slogan we use or dont use then it is their loss. Seems the way we recruit most like what they see

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I minored in history at CLEMSON. You going after them now?


Sep 11, 2020, 2:14 PM

Ha!!! It's those professors now. And then it's those football players being so young and easily taken coaches who have no choice and the liberal media... maybe it's you.. have you considred that?

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Re: Recruits and Parents of recruits!!! Look at these responses... now it goes to P&R


Sep 11, 2020, 1:28 PM

No you had rather do it with your racist hate posts "reverend"

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Spoken like someone who has never read BLM inc.'s

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:44 PM

mission statement and ultimate goals in their own words.

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GO TIGERS!!


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Sep 11, 2020, 2:32 PM

You just don’t get it and never will. Slavery is done with. It’s called progress, enlightenment, evolution, etc. We didn’t get this far in society because everyone’s ideology is still rooted in how the country was founded, man. You come off as if black people are the only ones supporting equality. It’s so myopic, but here you are breathing fire and brimstone on all us non-progressive bigot whites, again. Normal people don’t support slavery or racism so your argument is as hollow as your attempt to rationalize BLM’s terroristic behavior.

Talk about self-righteous, Reverend...

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You proved my point!!


Sep 11, 2020, 2:40 PM

BLM founding person and their beliefs are not completely and finally indicative of what it is intended to accomplish and what it will bring for America’s good just like we don’t harp on the inconsistencies of the founding fathers view on humanity anymore. If they could still be right after having some things wrong- then why can BLM?

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Re: You proved my point!!

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Sep 11, 2020, 3:10 PM

No, I countered your argument in that you are comparing an ideology from over 100 years ago to another organization’s behavior today as if society has not progressed significantly in that period of time. By your assertion, it’s ok for BLM to conduct themselves the way they do because the founders of our nation were racist. Seriously?

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Ok. it not just about the founding fathers racism..


Sep 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

I'll let that go. I am simply saying that founding member personal ideals are not always indicative of the final product; unless you want to join me in believing that what the founding fathers put in the "foundational mix" is continuing to cause great institutional damage to our country. ahhh... so if we are afraid that the founding beliefs of BLM will cause continued issues for our country if they are accepted, then what did what was accepted as foundational in starting this nation doing now? You can't have it both ways unless you beleive one group of people are superiror to the other in their blind spots, in their affirmations, in their values.

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Re: Ok. it not just about the founding fathers racism..


Sep 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

I guess that’s the difference in what we find relevant in the context. I’m not really invested in a better BLM so much as I care about race relations. The here and now have not put them in a positive light with their affiliations and political agendas. Why should I hope for a better BLM than simply support those that believe in doing things the right way now?

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You need to be banned ASAP


Sep 11, 2020, 2:57 PM

You and your open and obnoxious racism have no place on this site.

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Re: Pictures of Wake Forest helmet

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:23 PM

If we come out wearing some bull**** money laundering, front for ActBlue in the name of BLM or ANTIFA on our Jerseys or Helmet then I will cut the TV off and boycott the season. The fake pandemic taught me one thing in that sports is a distant second, third or even fourth in my life.

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EXCELLENT!


Sep 11, 2020, 1:27 PM

Boycott tigernet too. Please.

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Re: EXCELLENT!

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:28 PM

I was on T-NET when you were a glimmer in your moms eye.

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Re: EXCELLENT!

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:29 PM

She probably regrets that glimmer now..

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Re: EXCELLENT!


Sep 11, 2020, 1:32 PM

Yes indeed.... She spawned a libtard and mouth-breather.

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Man I would think that with a college degree you'd be


Sep 11, 2020, 1:39 PM

smarter.

Not wanting to prevent racial equality makes you a libturd and mouth breather?

Sad level you've stooped to. Whatever makes you sleep at night. It's probably tough leading a double life depending on your company, but I guess you get along ok.

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Re: Man I would think that with a college degree you'd be


Sep 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

What you said makes absolutely no sense. My views on those two groups have nothing to do with my stance on equality.

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Racial inequality???


Sep 11, 2020, 3:11 PM

Tell us about your firsthand experience.

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Not so fast, my friend


Sep 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

original handle in 99. Changed to a new one.

Graduated from CU a few years prior to you.

Not sure what this has to do with anything, but there you have it.

Oh, and my mom passed away a few years back. Appreciate the reminder. I do miss her.

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Re: Not so fast, my friend

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:48 PM

Look Don Quijote, I have convictions and beliefs that rise far above a dearly beloved sports and academic venue. When challenged to pick a side with the freedom and what the flag stands for and what I had served faithfully for almost 12 years under as a commissioned reservist then it's fairly clear. I have other reasons as well but its best for another day.

The oath of the other groups and where their proceeds are going vs. helping those truly in need is counter intuitive and don't measure up or deserve my time when you understand the crux of their existence. If you don't value my opinion then I don't care but I will express it for those that maybe feel the same and sit back in the shadows.

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Appreciate that service, really do.


Sep 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

Just remember that freedom is a broad term, and the good news is that we are as we should be free to express our opinions, and that includes football players.

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Re: Appreciate that service, really do.


Sep 11, 2020, 2:11 PM

We are free as long as it doesn't incite violence and hate. I am curious how you feel if they came out wearing a KKK or Kyle Rittenhouse shirt. Those two organizations incite violence and hate and will empty a stadium quicker than the president and AD can imagine. With WF not having any fans in attendance then maybe its not so bad. Try to carry that over to 2021. I think it is a globalist/marxist front to create chaos prior to an election. It comes up every 2-4 years and many fall prey to it.

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i hope we fist 'em with that fist***


Sep 11, 2020, 1:34 PM



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In "Worst Looking Helmet Ever" contest.........


Sep 11, 2020, 1:44 PM

......the Wake helmet for this game/year is not among the top 25 for sure. I've seen helmets with chickens on them and even those don't make the top 25 worst looking helmet list.

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Sep 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

Looks pretty good.

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Sigh


Sep 11, 2020, 2:38 PM

How far will this cluelessness go? Maybe the media needs to start covering more white people getting? All this crap, based on grossly exaggerated and even imagined bs, needs to stay the heck outta sports!

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Good job guys

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Sep 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

Now kirbstreet's gonna read this thread and get all upset. We'll be listening to him snifflin snufflin blubbering and blerbberin all through gameday now!

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Sep 13, 2020, 8:12 PM

Sickening.

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