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Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.
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Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 4:48 PM

Sitting at home during tournament time is getting old

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 4:55 PM

did you read Mr Hood's post last Friday? Looks like Brad is coming back based on what he said, unless Brad doesn't want to. Or unless he takes another job. There is supposed to be a release on that sometime later this week...

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10th place in year 12 is good bang for the buck in the eyes


Mar 14, 2022, 4:58 PM

of the AD and the BOT.

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Mar 15, 2022, 9:54 AM

Winning games is low on the list.

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Mar 15, 2022, 10:12 AM

playing by the same rules.

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Link...


Mar 14, 2022, 5:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change. ]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/thread/brad-brownell---what-i-am-hearing-2144368


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Where is this post from Hood?


Mar 14, 2022, 8:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change. ]

In those regards, Mr. Neff is getting a failing grade with this. What's up with the complete silence? Gotta make some sort of definitive statement. Either he's staying (say why) or he's going. You can't just let it ride.

I honestly think the vast majority of Clemson nation wants a change, but we gotta hear from the university. They gotta say something. We are the "customers" and we need to hear a statement of some sort.

Where the heck are you, Neff? You have a job to do, and addressing this Brownell situation (elephant in the room) is high priority for your customers. You gotta say SOMETHING.

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Re: Where is this post from Hood?


Mar 15, 2022, 7:18 AM


In those regards, Mr. Neff is getting a failing grade with this. What's up with the complete silence? Gotta make some sort of definitive statement. Either he's staying (say why) or he's going. You can't just let it ride.

I honestly think the vast majority of Clemson nation wants a change, but we gotta hear from the university. They gotta say something. We are the "customers" and we need to hear a statement of some sort.

Where the heck are you, Neff? You have a job to do, and addressing this Brownell situation (elephant in the room) is high priority for your customers. You gotta say SOMETHING.



The customers seem to want top shelf at a bottom shelf price.

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Bull. Brownell is the 38th highest paid coach in the country.***


Mar 15, 2022, 12:36 PM



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Re: Where is this post from Hood?


Mar 15, 2022, 7:18 AM [ in reply to Where is this post from Hood? ]


In those regards, Mr. Neff is getting a failing grade with this. What's up with the complete silence? Gotta make some sort of definitive statement. Either he's staying (say why) or he's going. You can't just let it ride.

I honestly think the vast majority of Clemson nation wants a change, but we gotta hear from the university. They gotta say something. We are the "customers" and we need to hear a statement of some sort.

Where the heck are you, Neff? You have a job to do, and addressing this Brownell situation (elephant in the room) is high priority for your customers. You gotta say SOMETHING.



The customers seem to want top shelf at a bottom shelf price.

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Re: Where is this post from Hood?


Mar 15, 2022, 7:34 AM

That’s just not true, he’s a 39th highest paid coach in the country, that’s not bottom shelf

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The fans could speak up by not buying a single ticket to a game next year.***


Mar 14, 2022, 5:22 PM



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Re: The fans could speak up by not buying a single ticket to a game next year.***


Mar 14, 2022, 8:14 PM

And that would be sad, not supporting the school and players.

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That's exactly what the university administration is doing.***


Mar 15, 2022, 9:54 AM



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Why should I pay for a horrible product


Mar 15, 2022, 9:57 AM [ in reply to Re: The fans could speak up by not buying a single ticket to a game next year.*** ]

that's difficult to obtain?

i.e. games at 8 PM on a Tuesday.

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I've said it before and I will say it again...


Mar 15, 2022, 9:54 AM [ in reply to The fans could speak up by not buying a single ticket to a game next year.*** ]

I have been a basketball season ticket holder since 1988 but I have bought my last basketball ticket and I have attended my last game.

If the university administration doesn't care, why should I.





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I haven't been to a game since 2015 or so.


Mar 15, 2022, 9:55 AM [ in reply to The fans could speak up by not buying a single ticket to a game next year.*** ]



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Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective


Mar 14, 2022, 5:22 PM

Brad Brownell has 385 career victories.

That's more career victories than --

Everett Case
Wimp Sanderson
John Thompson
C.M. Newton
Jim Valvano
Joe Williams
George Raveling
Paul Hewitt

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Jim Valvano died at age 47.***


Mar 14, 2022, 5:26 PM

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Message was edited by: lovingit®


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Mar 14, 2022, 5:57 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

Anybody have any idea where he ranks in the top 500 coaches for wins.I can't seem to locate that information.

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Mar 14, 2022, 11:09 PM

129th. I'm counting coaches tied with the same total of wins as one number.

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Re: Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective


Mar 14, 2022, 11:11 PM [ in reply to Re: Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

385 wins.

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Re: Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective


Mar 14, 2022, 11:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/

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How many losses does he have?***


Mar 14, 2022, 6:15 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]



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Re: How many losses does he have?***


Mar 14, 2022, 11:10 PM

251.

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How does that rank to the great basketball coaches Clemson


Mar 15, 2022, 7:00 AM

has had in the past?

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Re: How many losses does he have?


Mar 15, 2022, 9:58 AM [ in reply to How many losses does he have?*** ]



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Re: Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective


Mar 14, 2022, 7:06 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

idiot

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If Brownell didn't fold so badly like he does in close games


Mar 14, 2022, 7:45 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

over his career he could actually have a very decent resume. He does a lot of other elements of the game very well. Being on the wrong side of one-score games 2/3 of the time though is a killer. Not a career killer obviously as he's gotten pretty fat and happy off of us, and the meter is still running, but a killer in terms of seasons and program energy.

Go Tigers.

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Ain't that the truth..


Mar 15, 2022, 12:45 PM

Brad has done everything well at Clemson but hasn't won enough games or games at the right time.

If he would have won more of the close games over the years, then he would be worthy of being the 38th highest paid coach in America. But there's a DEFINITE trend of losing the majority of games requiring strong coaching and team intelligence down the stretch. It's been this way for most all of his 12 years.. the trend is clear and cannot be ignored any longer.

All we want is to make the tournament more frequently and to actually win more than 2 tournament games every 22 years. I like Brad and have hoped for a turnaround, but it was just the same in year 12.

Change is needed.

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You're not the sharpest tack in the drawer, huh?***


Mar 14, 2022, 8:22 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]



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I can assure you he hasn't won more


Mar 14, 2022, 9:57 PM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

games than John Thompson (596, including a natty). I imagine in your excitement to defend BB, you looked up the record of Thompson's son.

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If you like him so much...


Mar 15, 2022, 10:06 AM [ in reply to Lunatic Fringe Needs Some Perspective ]

why don't you do us al la favor and hire him over at Anderson University.

You, like the Clemson University administration, may be content with twelve years of mediocre results and making the NCAAT only twice every eleven years, but most of the fans aren't.

I don't care who you are, those are unacceptable results by any standard or measure.




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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 5:35 PM

Brad is not going anywhere until the NCAA Tournament ends. Then he can go after the Duke job(lol).

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Mar 14, 2022, 5:38 PM

He would be a fool to leave. He has it made. Has JStone and Keller believing this is as good as it gets at Clemson.

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 9:58 PM

All of the guys i lived with in the tin cans were smart guys. What happened to jstone??????

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 6:36 PM

Are you aware that we were in the tournament last year?

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 7:54 PM

You talking about Rutgers?

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MEG


And we were beaten by a team we were favored to beat.


Mar 14, 2022, 8:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change. ]

Get your stuff straight.

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Re: And we were beaten by a team we were favored to beat.


Mar 14, 2022, 11:03 PM

Correct. The OP stated that sitting at home during tournament time is getting old. We didn't sit at home during tournament time last year. Just talking facts here.

Speaking of facts, I'm pretty sure Rutgers was favored to win the game.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/clemson-vs-rutgers-odds-line-2021-ncaa-tournament-picks-march-madness-predictions-from-proven-model/amp/


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Re: And we were beaten by a team we were favored to beat.


Mar 15, 2022, 10:19 AM

Correct. In fact, Clemson was the only higher seeded team that was not favored to win. And of course, Brownell delivered as expected.

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 6:53 PM

Puh-leze. He is saving us gas and motel money.Yet no one appreciates that. ;)

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 7:51 PM

Move on to baseball, basketball is over.

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 8:12 PM

Yep, that’s the Clemson way

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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 8:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change. ]

Yep usually no fun during BB season. Just something we have to go thru and be punished. Brad has got to be the most important coach ever for Clemson. No coach has done less and lasted longer.

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Mar 14, 2022, 9:52 PM [ in reply to Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change. ]



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Re: Any news on Brad going or staying. It’s way time for a change.


Mar 14, 2022, 10:04 PM

I emailed Mr. Neff today as i did in December. He replied to me back then. I reiterated my call fora new coach and pointed out that we were not one of 100 teams in post season play. His email address has been posted here by others. It is neffg at clemson.edu.
Please express your satisfaction with the status quo ( sub mediocrity) or need for a change.

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Apparently...


Mar 15, 2022, 9:52 AM

university administration is perfectly content with mediocrity and only advancing to the NCAAT twice every eleven years.

Who gives **** what the fans think !?!?!?!

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