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Facemasks Help - not so fast my friend
Apr 19, 2021, 9:00 AM
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Outkick just referenced this paper today. Looks like it came out late last year.
STANFORD STUDY SAYS MASKS ARE ‘INEFFECTIVE’, HAVE ‘DEVASTATING HEALTH CONSEQUENCES’
The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720333028
Everyone down with following the science?
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All-TigerNet [11623]
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LOL. Just LOL.
Apr 19, 2021, 10:24 AM
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"...medical...facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease."
Reading that statement alone is garbage. If you believe that, next time your at your dentists office or getting a surgical procedure, demand the doctors take off their mask for their safety.
LOL.
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Re: Facemasks Help - not so fast my friend
Apr 19, 2021, 11:13 AM
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The author goes from arguing that face masks are ineffective because the thread diameter is too large to catch virus particles to arguing that masks trap CO2 and limit oxygen intake. This whole article is deceptive, pseudoscientific nonsense.
Also, this article has nothing to do with Stanford. It was published in Medical Hypotheses, a journal who’s purpose (according to the publisher) “is to publish interesting theoretical papers.” and “consider radical, speculative and non-mainstream scientific ideas provided they are coherently expressed.”
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Re: Facemasks Help - not so fast my friend
Apr 19, 2021, 11:35 AM
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Well this is just a bytch for all of us. Thanks for this valuable PSA! Neurosurgeons can spend 12 hours or more masked up during lengthy brain surgeries, so this is terrible for the patient and the doctor. Do you recommend surgeons receive Oxygen during surgery or just forego wearing surgical masks?
Who woulda thunk it? I wish someone would have explained this to me during my 30+ years of wearing a mask in the OR. Fortunately I never was in a case of any kind for over 6 hours. I guess this is why I to date am not a drooling wheelchair bound idiot.
This has to be one of the dumbest things I've read in a bit. It's truly amazing that the ICU staffs across the world aren't all dead if medical grade masks are worthless. What explains the fact that most ICU staffs have remained safe and that those that did indeed develop COVID more often than not acquired COVID in the community setting?
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Hey! I am so glad we are back to April 2020
Apr 19, 2021, 12:29 PM
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topics.
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All-In [48781]
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Others have ridiculed the science here, but...
Apr 19, 2021, 12:35 PM
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it's super weird to me that the same folks who whine about the pussification of America all the time are running around suffering from "activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression" because they have to wear a little cloth over their mouth.
Like anyone having that much trouble with a mask without an underlying medical condition would have been cool with storming the beach at Normandy to defeat racism.
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Re: Facemasks Help - not so fast my friend
Apr 19, 2021, 12:39 PM
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Not sure if someone else pointed this out, but this isn't a study. It's just a review with a hypothesis.
They didn't actually do any scientific work at all other than finding papers that agree with their opinion
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Lol. Do you even know what a study is?
Apr 19, 2021, 1:09 PM
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Cause this isn't one. This is just some guy (presumably one who just got hit in the head with a baseball bat) making vague claims about masks making breathing more difficult without any evidence.
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