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Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 9, 2021, 10:04 PM
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He had a 30 yard run last year.
He has been clocked at 4.8 in the 40. Not blazing fast, but certainly not a disqualifier. Tajh ran a 4.84 at the NFL combine. Trevor ran a 4.78 his senior year of high school. Deshaun ran a 4.66 at the NFL combine.
DJ can be a threat running. Why he didn’t run more against UGA is anyone’s guess, but let’s not declare him a statue who can’t run. He can.
I predict that we will see some nice runs from DJ this season.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 9, 2021, 10:08 PM
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Best dose of medicine for DJ will be a season with the ball in his hands. It will all come together with every game worth of experience.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 9, 2021, 10:57 PM
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Yep, and we have gotten use to our 5 start QB's coming in and ready being ready for the NFL the way DW4 and TL16 were. DJ will be great, he just needs a little more time than our last two QBs....
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 9, 2021, 11:50 PM
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And what will that prove? Against SCST and other out talented ACC opponents. NCST will be our biggest test. I think they win 9-10 regular season games
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 9:00 AM
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Might not prove much, but experience and building confidence in his own ability can't be a bad thing for him. JMO He needs to learn to trust his legs to help him when things break down. With this OL, he needs to practice escaping the pocket when it begins to collapse.
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Your optimism is rolling
Sep 9, 2021, 10:16 PM
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What I saw Saturday night was a really good UGA defense. Also noticed running lanes open, and receivers running wide open. DJ wasn't able to see either. The game was too fast for him. The moment was too big.
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Re: Your optimism is rolling
Sep 9, 2021, 10:59 PM
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Yes but, after playing a few ACC teams on our schedule, and the game will slow down for him!!!
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Re: Your optimism is rolling
Sep 9, 2021, 11:10 PM
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I’ve said this a few times and I’ll say it again. DJ was not the same player last Saturday as we saw against ND. All the credit to UGA’s DL, but he got in his head way, way too often. If the guy that played in South Bend had been there last weekend, the results would have been different.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 9, 2021, 10:20 PM
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No doubt. They will run him just enough to open other things up, as they did with QBs of the past.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 3:40 PM
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Yes they do but I want him to deliver a few blows to show himself i am not scared anymore to get hit. I don't think he had really taken a hit since he recovered from that sore shoulder last year all through spring or all through camp and it showed in the UGA game.
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Face it - what we saw from DJ Saturday was nothing like what
Sep 9, 2021, 10:21 PM
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we saw from him last year in any regard, and that included a start on the road against a top 5 team in which he was masterful. We can't say that DJ can't run, because we already know he CAN. We can't say he can't handle the pressure, because we already know he CAN. Granted, he had a bad game, but there was a lot more than that going on against Georgia that resulted in the performance we saw. DJ has already demonstrated that he can do all of the things at a very high level that he is being criticized for not doing well Saturday night. The answer isn't to kick him to the curb in favor of another guy after one game. The answer is to coach him up, and make sure he is put in a position to be as outstanding and amazing as he was last year.
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Re: Face it - what we saw from DJ Saturday was nothing like what
Sep 9, 2021, 10:42 PM
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There was nothing for DJ to lose against ND last year. He stepped in for Trevor. UGA was all the pressure of the media and fans on his shoulders.
He's shown he can do it. Just not sure he shoulder the moment.
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There was TONS to lose against Notre Dame. A poor
Sep 9, 2021, 11:14 PM
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performance very easily could have knocked us out of the playoff picture. It was DJs first big game, on the road, as a true freshman. No pressure? He responded with a record performance by a freshman QB. Look, I'm not denying that DJ had a rough game, he owned that himself. That just doesn't tell the whole story, and ignores what we know for a fact he's capable of.
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Notre Dame was ranked #4 when we played them, and
Sep 9, 2021, 11:07 PM
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went on to make the playoff. The pressure was there. That's the point, and DJ responded magnificently as a true freshman.
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The problem is not speed
Sep 9, 2021, 10:38 PM
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It’s not that Trevor or Watson or even Boyd were necessarily fast. In the pocket it’s not about speed, but quickness and elusiveness. Agility. Having the instinct to make a guy miss.
So far I haven’t seen that from DJ. He doesn’t seem to have good pocket awareness. Pocket instincts.
The long touchdown wasn't because of speed, but nobody being within 10 or 20 yards of him. Go watch the replay of that run. The closest person to him was probably 5 yards away by the time he got to the end zone and they had an angle.
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He can't run well right now. Of course he can work hard
Sep 9, 2021, 10:47 PM
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and improve at it.
But let's not kid ourselves about the present.
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Yeah…but he doesn’t have “deceptive speed” like Trevor.***
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Sep 9, 2021, 10:57 PM
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Re: Yeah…but he doesn’t have “deceptive speed” like Trevor.***
Sep 9, 2021, 11:28 PM
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He's too heavy. he needs to lose weight.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 12:25 AM
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I don’t think anyone on staff is comfortable seeing DJ on a designer run or scramble. Have you looked at the depth chart at QB?
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Had he run a little more against Georgia we could have won
Sep 10, 2021, 2:05 AM
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Then again had he simply played better in numerous other ways we would have won as well.
Frankly from what I saw I don’t know that the drop off would be that great at the moment.
We have Tie-sun Puma-Chan back and I think Will Taylor could beat most of the teams on our schedule as well given the way our defense is playing.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 6:58 AM
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Bojangles
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 8:12 AM
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JR.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 8:22 AM
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Straight line speed isn’t the issue to me. What I noticed against the speed of GA was he was not mobile enough to escape pressure. Or he has bad pocket awareness. One of the two. And we don’t have the Oline to protect a statue type QB. ACC okay he should be fine but if we make the playoffs I’d be worried again unless we play OK because once again they have a mediocre or bad defense.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 8:57 AM
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I hope we do. He does need some mobility to be effective in our offense, especially since the OL doesn't seem to be fixed.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 9:00 AM
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I second that.
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Re: Let’s not be so quick to declare that DJ isn’t a good runner.
Sep 10, 2021, 9:23 AM
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I agree in principle (jury is out on DJ), but one's time in the 40 isn't an indicator that someone is a good runner. Granted, a faster 40 is better for a good runner, but it doesn't make a person a good runner by itself.
To be a good runner, you need vision (to see the angles), directional speed (40/100yd dash here), the ability to changing speed direction(shift from N/S to E/W and vice versa), balance (maintain speed with impacts), and acceleration (how fast you get up to speed).
First, against Georgia, DJ lacked vision and this cause a lot of issues across the board. Even a few times he could have a decent run if he tucked it, he was still looking up field. Next his balance was off. I thought, for his size, he was getting knocked around... but this can come from vision as well when you aren't ready for it. Finally, DJ didn't and hasn't shown a lot of acceleration. I think DJ is fast once he is up to speed but getting to speed might be his weakness. That is going to make bolting from the pocket a bit tougher.
If you want to see examples of each: DW4 was great at both balance and acceleration. He could bolt and had other tools too. Lamar has great an ability to change speed and direction extremely quick. TL had the vision and the top-side speed. Balance would be ETN - but he has it all too plus power.
And if you want to see what having it all looks like, as Renfrow.
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