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Oculus Spirit [78865]
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Big Ten is trying to override NCAA recruiting rules
Feb 12, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Good for the Big Ten
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/21687736/big-ten-schools-pushing-to-override-ncaa-recruiting-rules
Big Ten schools pushing to override NCAA recruiting rules By Jeremy Fowler | College Football Insider February 11, 2013 6:19 pm ET
Big Ten schools are in the process of sending official requests to override the NCAA's proposed ruling for unlimited communication with recruits, according to University of Nebraska faculty athletics rep Josephine Potuto.
The Big Ten on Monday announced the league's coaches and athletics directors are pushing back against a set of proposed NCAA rules, including:
*Proposal 11-2: Athletics Personnel -- Limitations on the Number and Duties of Coaches --Elimination of Recruiting Coordination Functions
Proposal 13-3: Recruiting -- Deregulation of Modes and Numerical Limitations on Communication *Proposal 13-5-A: Recruiting -- Elimination of Printed Recruiting Materials and Video/Audio Legislation
“We have serious concerns whether these proposals, as currently written, are in the best interest of high school student-athletes, their families and their coaches,” the Big Ten stated. “We are also concerned about the adverse effect they would have on college coaches, administrators and university resources. We look forward to working with the NCAA toward improving the game, the recruiting process and the overall college football experience for all student-athletes.
A Big 12 official said the league has not yet taken a position on the proposed rule, announced in January during the NCAA Convention in Dallas. The SEC has nothing to report on the issue, according to a spokesman.
Potuto said Big Ten athletics directors recently had a conference call to discuss how their schools were “particularly unhappy about the rules.”
As John Infante from athleticscholarships.net points out, proposals need 75 override requests to send back to the NCAA board of directors for reconsideration.
An assistant coach from a BCS school said such conference messages aren't surprising because he believes roughly 80 percent of the coaches don't like the proposed rule change.
But as Potuto points out, there was complaining about the old rules that limited text messaging and how recruiting should be less regulated. Now that the NCAA has opened things up, many appear unhappy.
“It's been pushed to the lowest common denominator,” Potuto said.
Where the middle ground lies for coaches is still unclear. The new rules require more work, to be sure, pushing universities to consider expanding their football staffs to handle the workload. Even SIDs can talk to recruits under the new rules. The message from NCAA president Mark Emmert was, 'This stuff can't be regulated, so, well, have fun.'
This might not be a problem for the SEC, which had seven of the top 12 recruiting classes based on 247sports.com rankings.
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Re: Big Ten is trying to override NCAA recruiting rules
Feb 12, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Good move by the Big 10. As much as I think Clemson would shine under these new recruiting rules I also think it will be detrimental to both the High school players and college programs. I agree that it is impossible for the NCAA to regulate recruiting in the modern world but I don't think the hands off approach is the best alternative. If they are going to take a step back and look at these rules they better hurry. The last thing we need is multiple rules changes every year changing how coaches do things. I think the NCAA also needs to reach out to parents and coaches of these high school kids to report schools when the are in violation.
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I am not sure we would shine. I believe we would "compete",
Feb 12, 2013, 10:48 AM
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but not shine. Clemson as it stands today shines because of the quality of our coaches' interactions with the recruits, not the quantity. If it becomes a free-for-all, we may put the resources toward the volume of communications, but so would every big-time program. It will all become noise (this is just my theory).
I think some effort to control the communication will be better for the sport, for Clemson, and ESPECIALLY for the recruit and his family.
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Re: I am not sure we would shine. I believe we would "compete",
Feb 12, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Clemson would shine under its current head coach. Dabo is a tireless recruiter which is more than can be said for many college head coaches. Giving him more access to players would only help Clemson. Sure we may not put in as much money as Bama and Texas programs but we would do a good job and Dabo would lead the charge. Now after Dabo leaves you may be right.
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Legend [15746]
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See, that's where I think we would lose.
Feb 12, 2013, 11:39 AM
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Yes, Dabo is a tireless recruiter, as are many of his assistants. Their hard work combined with (as I said earlier) the quality of their interactions with the players is what helps to make Clemson stand out.
But this rules change would mean that "tireless recruiter" doesn't matter as much anymore. Now you have an entire staff of recruiting coordinators interacting with the players. Imagine each potential recruit having a sole person full-time committed to their every need, giving one-on-one interaction any time of the day and reporting up through the coaching staff as to when they need to be involved? The effort of our coaching staff would be of less importance and the sheer volume of communication that a player would have would diminish the quality of all communication. That's fine for the factories like Alabama but not for Clemson. Plus, think of all the schools that would keep up their recruiting efforts on a kid. Got a three star that you only have a 20% chance of getting? In today's environment, you might move on, but hey, if you have unlimited resources and can just assign his "case" to one of the dozens of recruit-liasons, you might as well keep the pressure on.
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Sounds like most non-sec schools will support this
Feb 12, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Other universities have classes to run and teachers to pay. All of that money can't go to mailing a recruit 200 times per day. USPS expected to fight this since 40% of their volume is at stake.
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Let's get real...
Feb 12, 2013, 10:46 AM
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The only reason some schools are screaming about this is because their athletic programs are already in the red. They are faced with a classic Catch 22: They can't afford to hire the extra staff these new rules will require to keep up with everyone else, but they can't afford NOT to hire the extra staff that will be required to keep up with everyone else. So they're hoping the NCAA will swoop in and save their athletic budgets. There will be lots of pontificating, hand wringing, and moaning about what the new deregulated environment does to high school kids and their families, but that's mostly crocodile tears. College football (to its detriment, IMO) has long since gone down the rabbit hole of chasing $$$ and nothing is going to change that. The best one can hope for is a program that tries to balance running a multi-million dollar corporation (i.e. their football program) with the actual life needs of young men.
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That's a very cynical view. I believe that many university
Feb 12, 2013, 10:50 AM
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leaders still consider the needs of the students. It's not that they won't do what's necessary to compete, but I am sure many sincerely do not want to go down this path.
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Re: Let's get real...
Feb 12, 2013, 11:09 AM
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The B1G schools are not in the red. They care about education and the academic side of college sports. They are also making more money than any other conference and stand to make more with the additions of Maryland and Rutgers.
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Are we in the red?
Feb 12, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Dabo doesn't like the rule changes, and has said so in interviews.
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Legend [15746]
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Good for the Big Ten. The ACC should follow suit. ******
Feb 12, 2013, 10:46 AM
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Re: Big Ten is trying to override NCAA recruiting rules
Feb 12, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Quick question but how could this not get 75 override votes? There are about 120 D-1 programs and only about 64 are BCS schools. That leaves 55 small schools that would be at a competitive disadvantage if these rules pass. That combined with the B1G gets the total to 69 and only 6 votes to get to 75.
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The SEC wants to expand their recruiting programs.
Feb 12, 2013, 11:30 AM
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They don't have any other place to spend all that money. They are full up at paying players, new facilities and coaching salaries so this is their only hope for putting more room between themselves and the rest of us.
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I do agree that this is all about the rich getting richer.***
Feb 12, 2013, 11:38 AM
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If they can't run with the big dogs,,,stay on the porch***
Feb 12, 2013, 3:12 PM
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