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Lemme stop all you faux outragers on the baby formula

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May 13, 2022, 8:09 AM
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Right. Here.

The Biden administrations is required by a 1997 lawsuit settlement to provide these provisions to immigrant children. Guess who else had to do it? Trump. Obama. Bush. Clinton. In fact, while Trump opposed it, he followed it. So show your outrage there, too, MAGAophiles.

I've linked the WaPo article explaining it, but here are the key details for those who struggle with the reading a little bit:

"At issue is something called the Flores consent decree, which began as a class-action lawsuit regarding the treatment of migrant children. The Justice Department negotiated a settlement in 1997 during President Bill Clinton’s administration.

The Flores settlement requires the federal government to release rather than detain undocumented immigrant children, first to their parents if possible, to other adult relatives if not, and to licensed programs willing to accept custody if no relatives are available. A 2015 judicial ruling then said the Flores settlement covered all children in immigration officials’ custody, regardless of whether they were apprehended crossing the border alone or with family.

Here’s the relevant section of the settlement, which refers to the now-defunct Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

Note the reference to food: “Whenever the INS takes a minor into custody, it shall expeditiously process the minor and shall provide the minor with a notice of rights, including the right to a bond redetermination hearing if applicable. Following arrest, the INS shall hold minors in facilities that are safe and sanitary and that are consistent with the INS’s concern for the particular vulnerability of minors. Facilities will provide access to toilets and sinks, drinking water and food as appropriate, medical assistance if the minor is in need of emergency services, adequate temperature control and ventilation, adequate supervision to protect minors from others, and contact with family members who were arrested with the minor.”

A 2015 Customs and Border Protection (CBP) document laid out national standards for transport, escort, detention and search processes. These standards are derived from the Flores settlement and a 2008 law that codified elements of Flores, the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act.

Among those standards: “Food must be appropriate for at-risk detainees’ age and capabilities (such as formula and baby food).”

We mentioned that Trump was no fan of Flores. He tried to get rid of it but was blocked by the courts. So he followed the law, too. “We also observed all Border Patrol stations had food, snacks, juice, and infant formula available for children,” said a 2020 Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report on how the administration struggled to manage the 2019 migrant surge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/12/faux-outrage-that-biden-is-stockpiling-baby-formula-undocumented-immigrants/

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Also


May 13, 2022, 8:10 AM
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It's okay for those raging in the other threads to not reply. We will note your silence as a "Oops, my bad" and move on.

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Make America Starve Again ...

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May 13, 2022, 8:17 AM
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The Great Depression Part II ... Revenge of the Snowflakes

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America First policies put us in this position


May 13, 2022, 8:22 AM
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But not expecting any of you guys to admit that.

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Re: Make America Starve Again ...


May 13, 2022, 9:10 AM
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MASA lol

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May 13, 2022, 11:05 AM
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Of far more concern to me is why is there a shortage?

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May 13, 2022, 8:21 AM
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But for the shortage, no one would care.

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Tariffs and protectionism


May 13, 2022, 8:25 AM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/scottlincicome/status/1524928201432129536

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Doesn't this apply to pretty much anything ?


May 13, 2022, 8:25 AM
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Tire shortage ... Insulin shortage ... Clown shortage ...

If you want something, and there is a shortage, it becomes a big deal.

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Then why bicker about who gets what and figure out how to


May 13, 2022, 10:01 AM
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get more so there is no shortage? Complaining about who gets what in short supply accomplishes little. Make more and there is no shortage, and then you have to go on to something else to bicker about.

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Re: Of far more concern to me is why is there a shortage?

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May 13, 2022, 9:26 AM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/baby-formula-shortage-abbott-recall/629828/


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Truth is not desired for the MAGAverts.


May 13, 2022, 9:36 AM
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They don't want to hear it. It's all about whipping themselves into a faux frenzy.

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sorry homie...didn't see the context of your post


May 13, 2022, 9:54 AM
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#treeview

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Re: Of far more concern - - additional context


May 13, 2022, 12:42 PM
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Great article from the Atlantic; this provides important context for much of the baby formula problem.

But (as with any complicated problem re: baby formula shortage), there is still more context to consider.

Context takes time to understand, so this is another long post.

(1) Milk production in USA for 2022 vs. 2021 is forecasted to decline slightly (link below).
(2) Babies of US citizens ... slight decline (2020 vs. 2019) by ~ 150,000
(3) Babies of illegal immigrants ... est. per year of ~ 300,000 (Note: Precise numbers are difficult to generate)
(4) We are also sending a lot of baby formula to the Ukraine. (This is fine, but other bad gov't policies had contributed to the baby formula shortage BEFORE the UKR situation came into being.)

(*) Mild production is down; number of babies in the USA are up. Tinkering with the economy via 'politically correct' policies has consequences, and has played an important role in current the baby formula shortage.

Center for Immigration Studies (March 29, 2022) "Estimating the Illegal Immigrant Population Using the Current Population Survey"
Summary: Data shows number fell from 2019 to 2021 but rebounded by more than one million by early 2022

Center for Immigration Studies (Oct 9, 2018) "Births to Legal and Illegal Immigrants in the U.S."
Key excerpt: In 2014, one in five births (791,000) in the United States was to an immigrant mother (legal or illegal). Our best estimate is that legal immigrants accounted for 12.4 percent (494,000) of all births, and illegal immigrants accounted for 7.5 percent (297,000).

(*) Declining milk production (with milk being the primary source of whey and casein as the majority ingredients in baby formula) is forecasted. Poorer quality and lower yields of key feed grains is forecasted; a big component of the poorer quality / lower yields in 2022 is the current shortage of nitrogen fertilizers due to capacity constraints of the railroads to transport N fertilizers from mfg'ing plants to the key grain growing regions of KS, IA, NE, (I forget the few others).

(*) Greenies will hate this, but it's true: The USA's back-and-forth policies over the past decade have contributed to the current shortage of rail capacity. Railroads still carry far too much crude petroleum; if pipelines (including Keystone XL) had been built without the constant interruptions, then some (not all) of the crude carried by rail would now be transported by pipeline.

The broad economy is complicated. Gov't driven factors (increased illegal immigration for high birth rate people / premature 'green' initiatives which create transportation shortages) have contributed significantly to the current baby formula shortage.

Even when Abbott fixes their listeria or whatever their bacterial infection problem is, the USA will be facing other food shortages due in significant part to 'politically correct' policies instead of practical 'let America function without excessive gov't interference' policies.

https://www.progressivedairy.com/news/industry-news/usda-forecasts-milk-production-decline-sharply-higher-prices-in-2022#:~:text=9%2C%20the%20WASDE%20report%20revised,production%20of%20226.3%20billion%20pounds
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Wife said it's b/c Similac had a huge recall

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May 13, 2022, 9:51 AM
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wiped out one of the largest producers. Idk...we've been using enfamil, and like I've said numerous times, we buy everything 3 - 4 months out b/c of the #### show that is the United States right now.

I ran the numbers earlier this week, and we should have enough to make it. Baby is 8.5 months and and we have inventory to make it 13 weeks.

If you're not stocking your pantry and your freezers, at this point...not sure what to tell you.

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addendum - there are some European brands


May 13, 2022, 9:52 AM
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that are good that we tried. Worth a look for those of you who may need it...

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May 13, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Completely agree. I work in the poultry industry. It's getting crazy.

If not for shortages, for the inevitable inflation that is com coming.

Did you know market cost for breast meat was under $2.00 prior to covid? It is now reaching $5

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Yeah man


May 13, 2022, 10:25 AM
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I found an old costco chicken pack that was buried in the bottom of my freezer....$1.99/lb for breasts. I dated it July last year. I think the last time we loaded up was in Feb and it was $3.99 /lb. Need to load up one mo' ginn to make it to deer season.

With all that bird flu #### wiping out chicken houses, we fixing to be in a mess I think from the poultry side.

Macro level view, costs and/or shortages of fertilizers are going to affect yields. Farmers are planting later due to the cool/wet spring. The bean and corn futures are ripping (~75% higher than this point last year based on the tape).

The food chain is tighter than a banjo string right now...sorry for the doom pron...but hopefully she holds.

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Yeah, if the toilet paper and food fiasco of 2020 didn't


May 13, 2022, 10:19 AM
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teach you to keep a decent supply of basic necessities on hand...

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Of far more concern to me...


May 13, 2022, 11:26 AM
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is why people can't be bothered to make, temporarily, basic formula with off the shelf ingredients.

Carnation evaporated milk, caro syrup or granulated sugar and water. Boil. Cool.

Generations were raised on this recipe and survived.

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Let's connect the dots ...


May 13, 2022, 8:23 AM
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What is Brandons' #1 numero uno top goal ? The Green New Deal ...

What is a main target of the Green New Deal ? Cows

What do cows provide ? The main ingredient in baby formula ... Dehydrated Cow's Milk Whey


This is more climate change garbage ... just like staggering gas prices.

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May 13, 2022, 11:07 AM
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Re: It's sad that I don't think you're joking***


May 13, 2022, 11:13 AM
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Oh you’ve got your Defend Biden hat back on today huh? That’s at least 2 posts I’ve seen in a short time. I thought you were starting to come around too.

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No, I have my "I'm not an idiot" hat on today...


May 13, 2022, 11:18 AM
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if one thinks there is a baby formula shortage because Biden is laser focused on the Green New Deal and as a result cow regulation, then one would be an idiot.

You know why sometimes I blame stuff on the Biden/The President and sometimes I don't? Because I actually think about the issue and the underlying cause. While that does take more time than just knee-jerk blaming the POTUS for everything, I think it makes for a much more informed perspective.

I think you would find I did the same when Trump was POTUS.

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Re: No, I have my "I'm not an idiot" hat on today...


May 13, 2022, 11:27 AM
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Is it so crazy? Dems have admitted numerous times that the pandemic was an opportunity to advance their agenda. While gas prices are soaring, Biden is ramping up production of EV batteries for cars that not that many people have.

“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision,” Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) reportedly told his colleagues this week, echoing President Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel’s famous 2008 assertion that Democrats should never let a serious crisis go to waste.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/republicans-want-a-lifeline-democrats-want-to-remake-the-country/


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Well yes...it IS crazy...


May 13, 2022, 11:38 AM
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absent some level of proof.

To be clear, absent actual proof, then that line of reasoning is crazy.

Opportunistic promoting of agendas is a lot different than causing an issue to promote an agenda. You see the difference, right?

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Re: Well yes...it IS crazy...


May 13, 2022, 11:42 AM
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Yes but you don’t think it’s possible to at the same time do little to fix a situation if it will lead to your stated goals?

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Is it possible? Maybe...but is that the basis for forming...


May 13, 2022, 1:12 PM
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and stating opinion? What is possible?

It's "possible" Trump called Putin and told him to invade Ukraine. That doesn't mean it happened or that it's a reasonable opinion without proof, right?

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May 13, 2022, 8:35 AM
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"see, not our fault"-Lefties

*Joe cant even make baby formula lol



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Re: Lemme stop all you faux outragers on the baby formula

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May 13, 2022, 8:40 AM
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Your narrative has been destroyed and you are now flailing. Too funny. Please carry on so we can continue to laugh at your struggles.

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Why weren't you mad about this during Trump?

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May 13, 2022, 8:40 AM
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In fact, why were y'all so easily duped by Pub politicians who knew what was really happening and just wanted to stir y'all up? That gullible?

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Re: Why weren't you mad about this during Trump?


May 13, 2022, 8:44 AM
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i am not mad, just amused

there is not enough sand in the sand box for you to cover up this turd of an administration

embrace the suckage

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We all are embracing the suckage


May 13, 2022, 8:47 AM
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See, I know the Biden administration sucks. There is a laundry list of dog turds to criticize him. But you clowns are grasping at the stupid stuff that isn't there and getting duped by Pub politicians.

You and those like you are raging hypocrites because you don't want to admit that Trump did this exact same stuff. He was required to. Biden is required to.

If you want to be mad about the 1997 ruling and argue that, have at it. But you have no place to criticize any of the past four administrations over this.

In short, y'all were duped and couldn't even take time to research the topic. You are all driven by your emotions. Fear and anger get weak-minded people stirred up easily.

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Re: We all are embracing the suckage

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May 13, 2022, 8:48 AM
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amazing that one busted water pipe would end up starving babies

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Re: Why weren't you mad about this during Trump?


May 13, 2022, 8:59 AM
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You continue to struggle. Too ??.

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Re: Why weren't you mad about this during Trump?

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May 13, 2022, 9:08 AM
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Hmmmm, I don't think you understand why people are frustrated.

People are frustrated because illegal immigrants seem to have an endless supply of baby formula, while there is a shortage for US citizens. Was there a formula shortage under trump? People are not outraged by the simple fact that we feed illegal immigrants at the border.

I have been effected by this shortage. I'm supposed to go to a wedding next weekend. This will be the first time my wife and I have been away from the kids since we had kids. My wife doesn't have enough supply to pump all this extra milk for us to be able to go out of town and have my parents babysit. We can't find formula anywhere to supplement. We don't even know if our 7month old will take formula, but we were trying to test before we went out of town. Now it's looking unlikely that we will be able to go...

This is a frustrating, but minor inconvenience for us in the grand scheme of things. I certainly wouldn't want some innocent child at the border to starve so I could go to a wedding. I also have the right to be frustrated about the formula shortage.

The administration says that they have been working on this for months. Well they have failed in every way imaginable. And people are rightfully worried and pissed.

https://twitter.com/katiepavlich/status/1524847676558397440?s=21&t=ixlGaq4YFpqxXX0F6ePscQ

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Re: Why weren't you mad about this during Trump?


May 13, 2022, 9:14 AM
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And to be clear, for you bozos that get fixated on 1 sentence out of a long post and can't get past it.

I'm not saying this shortage is all on Biden. I would like to think his administration could do something about it. They seem to think that considering they say they have been working on it 24/I7 for months.

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I don't like the situation you and your wife are in,

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May 13, 2022, 9:19 AM
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but you're also showing your hand immediately in that post. You took a report about a shipment (or several, I haven't read the "accounts" of what people have seen) of baby formula to a migrant detention center somewhere, and turned that into "illegal immigrants seem to have an endless supply of baby formula".

I'm going to guess that the people in these facilities also don't have enough formula, and that the supply that does exist in this country has been spread relatively evenly and fairly. It sucks, and supply chain issues are cropping up in almost every sector. Global production and transport has had to reset as it comes out of a pandemic, and we're seeing the ripple effects that some seemingly unrelated hiccup way upstream can cause in products and supply on the other side of the planet.

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Re: I don't like the situation you and your wife are in,


May 13, 2022, 9:30 AM
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Quote from a migrant facility worker

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And what do we learn from that?

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May 13, 2022, 9:34 AM
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She hasn't given us an accurate number of the shipment. Just that "we won't believe" the shipment.

What actual data and statistics can we digest?

More importantly, why wouldn't you demand more facts and details instead of immediately rushing to outrage?

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Re: And what do we learn from that?


May 13, 2022, 9:41 AM
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I'm not outraged. I'm mildly frustrated by the formula shortage and how it effects me and my family.

You seem to be outraged that people are outraged about the formula shortage. Calm down, buddy.

Luckily for us, my wife nurses our baby, so we aren't in the pickle a lot of Americans are in.

I am more annoyed that the Biden administration has been working on this 24/7 for months and they have done nothing to fix this issue.

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May 13, 2022, 9:47 AM
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You seem to be outraged that people are outraged about the formula shortage. Calm down, buddy.


You know what actually has me worked up? That we have a segment of the population that is so easily ####### duped by politicians and fringe media who know they are too gullible to their emotions of fear and anger. It's dangerous for our society that so many people are so easily outraged and panicked. It bothers me that these Pub politicians know this and know they can play you clowns like fiddles.

All it takes is for y'all to have some semblance of a BS detector in your brain, do a little research, and not go "herpderp you can't believe the MSM!" the moment someone like WaPo breaks down the facts. It took me less than a minute to find an article that destroyed all the outrage.

Explain to me like I'm 6 why that is so hard for the rest of you to do.

Furthermore, please take this opportunity to convince me how this formula shortage is the administration's fault. Please show me data and facts. I welcome it. I don't like the Biden admin. I know it's an overall failure. But I want evidence they're actually to blame for this.

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Re: And what do we learn from that?


May 13, 2022, 10:16 AM
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Maybe if you would take the time to read my posts you would have a clue what you are responding to.

Here is a quote from my previous post on this thread since you are too lazy to read it yourself. BTW, You are the bozo thy at I'm talking about. Lol.

"And to be clear, for you bozos that get fixated on 1 sentence out of a long post and can't get past it.

I'm not saying this shortage is all on Biden. I would like to think his administration could do something about it. They seem to think that considering they say they have been working on it 24/I7 for months."

Why do you think the administration has been working on this 24/7 for months if they can't do anything about it?

And btw, you could use your own advice when dealing with the numerous fake stories regarding Trump you got duped into believing for 4 years.

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May 13, 2022, 10:25 AM
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Bruh, don't preach about being "too lazy to read" when you didn't bother to look this up AND you got completely snowed by the DeSantis/Disney lawsuit story, too, because you didn't read it.

What have they been working on? I dunno. But why does the government need to be working on it? What caused the shortage?

I didn't fall for any fake Trump stories. I supported everything being investigated and, as I said I would, accepted the results of the investigations.

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Re: And what do we learn from that?


May 13, 2022, 10:51 AM
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"Bruh", I did read the article. It was an article about a lawsuit against desantis that got dropped. You hate desantis and can't objectively speak about him. I figured you would be disappointed. You claim that you aren't, but everybody knows you wish the lawsuit didn't get dropped.

I don't know why you are coming up with bs simply because I responded that you must be disappointed. Strange.

Do you agree that if the government works on an issue "24/7 for months", and the issue isn't improved, that the government has failed to resolve the issue? This seems like common sense to me, but you can't understand. There are a ton of issues that they could be working on, but they are dedicating time and resources to help fix this issue, and they haven't. How is this a hard concept to grasp.

It's not my role to determine what the govt should and should not be working on. The fact of the matter is that they have, and have failed thus far.

And yes you did..... a couple that come to mind immediately are Trump ordering the teargassing of peaceful protesters for a photo op, and trump not visiting the graves of dead soldiers, because they failed at their job or whatever.

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May 13, 2022, 9:43 AM
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Also, why do you think Americans

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May 13, 2022, 9:44 AM
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Sorry, accidentally hit send prematurely.

Why do you think Americans are outraged by the simple fact that we feed migrants. That's not why people are outraged. You are very off base on this one.

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May 13, 2022, 9:48 AM
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If they want to be outraged at the court ruling, fine, let's discuss that. But that's a long time coming.

But I would hope that every ####### human being would be fine with finding some way to feed starving children who cannot help their parents' actions.

Surely you're not opposed to that just because the kid is a migrant?

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If American's are facing shortages, resources should be


May 13, 2022, 10:35 AM
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prioritized to reach them/their market place before they go to any migrants. There should be zero resources going to non citizens unless actual citizens have ample supplies. Do we not all agree with this?

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But we want the government to magically fix it?


May 13, 2022, 10:47 AM
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It's hard for us to argue against the administration sending it when they're required to do so by court order for over 20 years.

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We want them to not add to the supply strain by giving it


May 13, 2022, 10:53 AM
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out to non citizens. Given the way govt. has been picking and choosing what it wants to enforce regarding immigration for decades, I don't think 'having to follow the law' is an acceptable excuse here.

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Re: Lemme stop all you faux outragers on the baby formula

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May 13, 2022, 8:45 AM
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bbbbut tucker said the brown babies were getting fed first, and that is not right.

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Sorry Cata but my feeling don't care about your facts

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--Pubs ITT

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May 13, 2022, 8:48 AM
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"I'm so outraged Biden complied with this law but I wasn't outraged when Trump did it, too!"

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May 13, 2022, 8:50 AM
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there should be enough for everyone, unless democrats are in charge

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May 13, 2022, 8:50 AM
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I dont recall mom's driving two hours looking for formula during the Trump years but I could be wrong.

Why would moms be outraged at Trump if it wasn't happening during his four years?

And I agree, probably shouldn't be outraged at Biden but it comes with the territory.

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If people want to be mad at the 1997 ruling, have at it.


May 13, 2022, 8:53 AM
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But all presidential administrations are required to comply with this ruling.

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Re: If people want to be mad at the 1997 ruling, have at it.


May 13, 2022, 8:59 AM
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I agree.

I'm just saying the outrage comes with the territory much like inflation, gas prices, etc.

Right or wrong, the one in the white house usually gets the blame.

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May 13, 2022, 9:00 AM
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Biden is responsible for the recall? ??

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May 13, 2022, 9:01 AM
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Are you that much of a child? Did I say he is to blame?

Nope.

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May 13, 2022, 9:05 AM
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What's your point? YOU are the one who says he doesn't remember mother's driving for 2 hours looking for formula during tge Trump years. How would Trump have prevented the recall?

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May 13, 2022, 9:04 AM
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And recall? Nope..


But the optics of cases of formula at the border while legal Americans are driving hours looking for a can of formula, yes.

But, since you're stubborn, I'll explain it a little more although you still won't get it: is it Biden's fault? No. But, HE is the one in charge so naturally people will put some of the blame squarely on him. It's just how it goes.

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May 13, 2022, 9:08 AM
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Exactly how much formula is "stockpiled" at the border. All I've seen is 2 unverified photos.

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May 13, 2022, 8:53 AM
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Yeah, because it's only Republican moms driving hours looking for formula.

I'm sure you have fb and Twitter. The outrage is across political lines.

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May 13, 2022, 9:18 AM
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How would Trump have prevented the shortage?

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May 13, 2022, 9:24 AM
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Idk and idc but he would have gotten the blame had there been a shortage in the same way parents are putting the blame on Biden.

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May 13, 2022, 11:09 AM
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How would Trump have prevented the shortage?



I'm not quite sure. 1 thing that I know for certain is that if this happened under trump, you would be extremely outraged.

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broadbrush much?....


May 13, 2022, 1:54 PM
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I'm a pub ITT and don't think that.

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May 13, 2022, 9:20 AM
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he has to git up early and stay up late for sure

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It's a defense of facts


May 13, 2022, 9:29 AM
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Something that doesn't seem to happen much on this board.

The Biden administration sucks and there are tons of things to criticize it over. But y'all want to get duped into the ridiculous faux outrage stuff.

What would YOU do if Dems were having this same outrage a few years ago over Trump sending formula to the border?

You'd point out the 1997 court case, wouldn't ya? Yeah, you would.

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May 13, 2022, 9:31 AM
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Well then, gives us a pragmatic reason why Biden is to be blamed because of the formula shortage. The floor is yours.

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Is explaining the law really a "defense of mediocrity"....

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you're right...let's just repeat the latest outrage and not spend any time understand the issue.

I'm wondering if "Trump" (you know the President doesn't hand it out right?) gave immigrants toilet paper when I wasn't able to purchase any in 2020?

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May 13, 2022, 1:27 PM
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I'm wondering if "Trump" (you know the President doesn't hand it out right?) gave immigrants toilet paper when I wasn't able to purchase any in 2020?



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May 13, 2022, 3:06 PM
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I never had an issue with toilet paper. I do remember you all getting super triggered with how he handed out the paper towels and tp.

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It’s also funny this has been going on for months and none

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May 13, 2022, 1:05 PM
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of them cared until they got their talking points from Fox News over the last 48 hours. Literally within 24 hours it became all they cared about. Echo chamber

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Think it could be because nobody knew about it?


May 13, 2022, 1:44 PM
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Most people aren't on the border monitoring the situation as it unfolds.

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Was talking about the shortage itself. Two days ago


May 13, 2022, 9:26 PM
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all the Republican media got outraged all of a sudden about the shortage. This came out after that outrage, separately. Formula has been hard to find for a while, then all of a sudden within 24 hours the Republicans got outraged about it.

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May 13, 2022, 9:38 PM
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Is it Like a “maybe” ruling from the SC?

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Re: Was talking about the shortage itself. Two days ago


May 13, 2022, 10:55 PM
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There's still more context to consider; context takes time to understand, so this is a long post.

(1) Milk production in USA for 2022 vs. 2021 is forecasted to decline slightly.
(2) Babies of US citizens ... slight decline (2020 vs. 2019) by ~ 150,000
(3) Babies of illegal immigrants ... est. per year of ~ 300,000 (Note: Precise numbers are difficult to generate)
(4) We are also sending a lot of baby formula to the Ukraine. (This is fine, but other bad gov't policies (old and also very recent) have contributed to the baby formula shortage BEFORE the UKR war became a factor.)

(*) Mild production is down; number of babies in the USA are up. Tinkering with the economy via 'politically correct' policies has consequences, and has played an important role in current the baby formula shortage.

Center for Immigration Studies (March 29, 2022) "Estimating the Illegal Immigrant Population Using the Current Population Survey"
Summary: Data shows number fell from 2019 to 2021 but rebounded by more than one million by early 2022

Center for Immigration Studies (Oct 9, 2018) "Births to Legal and Illegal Immigrants in the U.S."
Key excerpt: In 2014, one in five births (791,000) in the United States was to an immigrant mother (legal or illegal). Our best estimate is that legal immigrants accounted for 12.4 percent (494,000) of all births, and illegal immigrants accounted for 7.5 percent (297,000).

(*) Declining milk production (with milk being the primary source of whey and casein as the majority ingredients in baby formula) is forecasted. Poorer quality and lower yields of key feed grains is forecasted; a big component of the poorer quality / lower yields in 2022 is the current shortage of nitrogen fertilizers due to capacity constraints of the railroads to transport N fertilizers from mfg'ing plants to the key grain growing regions of KS, IA, NE, and a few others.

(*) Greenies will hate this, but it's true: The USA's back-and-forth policies over the past decade have contributed to the current shortage of rail capacity. Railroads still carry far too much crude petroleum; if pipelines (including Keystone XL) had been built without the constant interruptions, then some (not all) of the crude carried by rail would now be transported by pipeline.

The broad economy is complicated. Gov't driven factors (increased illegal immigration for high birth rate people / premature 'green' initiatives which create transportation shortages) have contributed significantly to the current baby formula shortage.

Even when Abbott Labs fixes their bacterial infection problem, the USA will be facing other food shortages due in significant part to 'politically correct' policies instead of practical 'let America function without excessive gov't interference' policies.

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May 13, 2022, 3:03 PM
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This thread is wild

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