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Latest tweet from Greg Swaim
May 31, 2012, 10:09 AM
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Greg Swaim ?@GSwaim
Got the call I was waiting on. Despite predictable "we're fine at 10" sound bytes from #Big12, #FSU & #Clemson are "full steam ahead".
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They very well "could" be.
May 31, 2012, 10:12 AM
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It is my understanding that a conference can not talk about or extend an invitation to a school that is a member of another conference.
The school in question would have to formally withdraw from their conference.
So the next public move would have to be either CU or FSU withdrawing from the ACC.
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Re: They very well "could" be.- If that happens
May 31, 2012, 10:21 AM
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I will laugh my head off unless we dont get another conference invite of course
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I don't see how this could possibly move forward.
May 31, 2012, 10:21 AM
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According to Wilkins, we are committed to the ACC until someone else extends an offer.
They can't extend an offer until we withdraw. We aren't going anywhere until somebody extends an offer.
Sounds like somebody is confused as to how this works. 
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Re: I don't see how this could possibly move forward.
May 31, 2012, 10:26 AM
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That is not what Wilkins said.... he said that the BOT were fully committed to Clemson...... and Clemson being the best that it could be..... not trying to be smart, but I kept waiting for him to say they were fully committed to the ACC, but he never said that.
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Proposal doesn't have to mean an offer
May 31, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Clemson's leadership isn't going to even evaluate another conference to the point of taking it to the BOT without some knowledge of the financial package. The Big 12 could give a financial pro-forma without making it a public offer.
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We will not withdraw from the ACC if we don't have a
May 31, 2012, 10:40 AM
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done deal. Clemson would not risk being without a conference. An offer, public or official or not, will be extended, with all of the details hammered out, BEFORE we withdraw.
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Again, done deal doesn't not mean a formal offer
May 31, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Agreements are set all the time in private before a final offer is made. Wilkins did not say an offer he said a "viable proposal."
But I agree that we won't leave until all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed in some sort of conceptual framework.
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This is all word games and legal jibberish. Whether
May 31, 2012, 10:58 AM
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offer means proposal or proposal means offer; whether or not a "done deal" can take place without a "formal offer" is really beside the point.
Granted, it's expected to hear lawyers carry on like this, and I understand the legal necessities; but it's still funny to see grown men engage in this kind of public double-talk when we all know better and we all know that they know we all know better.
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Re: Here's the quote . . .
May 31, 2012, 11:05 AM
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"Until then". That's all you need to read in that statement to show that we're waiting on something to happen - until that point in time, we are committed to the ACC in order to cover our #### from any sort of litigation once we leave. The more I read/see, this is exactly how every school acted exactly before leaving their conference.
Heck, the SEC voted to not invite A&M and then accepted them like 3 or 4 weeks later. This is all posturing to make sure no one gets in trouble once it all goes down.
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Of course.
May 31, 2012, 11:21 AM
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We all know they can't be completely truthful about this; we know they are carefully wording everything to give a certain impression while the opposite may be true. Thus the in my original post.
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^^^ Anonymous SWOFFORD attorney ^^^***
May 31, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Re: I don't see how this could possibly move forward.
May 31, 2012, 11:27 AM
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this is SOP!!! don`t get up-set... we are fine!! 2011 August 15th, SEC post report that they do not intend to expand.. Sept7, 2011 Teas A. & M accepts invite to join SEC!!! thats how it is done.. RELAX
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Re: Lawyers!
May 31, 2012, 1:53 PM
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I am sure lawyers for the University/Athletic Dept. and conferences know the exact dance. Things obviously can move in the dark, and suddenly we see the results in the daylight. Look back to the sudden announcements from Pitt / Syracuse.
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"He's only a pawn in their game." The question is,
May 31, 2012, 3:14 PM
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Whose game is it?
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May 31, 2012, 11:22 AM
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