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Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 9:29 AM
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First of Tony Elliott is not gone, so this is all hypothetical, but if we are going to line up candidates in case TE leaves, maybe we should start with Chadwell instead of Korn.
Chadwell isn't getting any traction for the bigger jobs that have come open on the east coast in the last 2 seasons.
He's never had a major role as a coach in a big time program.
Maybe he would be smart to take on the OC position at a place like Clemson and spend a few years learning from Dabo to be more marketable to the big time programs in the future.
I believe he has reached his ceiling at Coastal and their magic ran out this season against the only decent teams they played.
All who are looking at Korn are thinking too small for what Clemson has become as a program.
For those of you with a soft spot for Korn, he can be hired as Coastal's head coach and improve his stock in the eyes of future jobs as well.
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I have no idea of what he's making as HC of CCU.........
Dec 7, 2021, 9:34 AM
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but I wouldn't think he would do that........however if he wanted to, bring chadwell on.
I agree with your Korn assessment...........we're a bigger program than him as an OC at this point in his career.
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Re: I have no idea of what he's making as HC of CCU.........
Dec 7, 2021, 9:44 AM
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The Google machine says Chadwell is making $850,000 at Coastal.
If he truly feels that being good at Coastal isn't getting him where he wants to go, then I'm not sure we would have to do much more than slightly above matching it to get him to take the position. Matching TE's salary would more than double what he is making.
If he is happy being a HC at Coastal and isn't concerned with getting hired at a bigger job, then he wouldn't likely take the offer regardless of the salary change.
It would only work if he is starting think that being the HC at Coastal isn't taking him where he wants to go for his career goals.
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It's baffling that he's not really being considered anywhere
Dec 7, 2021, 9:47 AM
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as a HC considering the carousel that's gone on this year.
he's an EXCELLENT offensive mind/playcaller...........I'd take him in a heartbeat at Clemson
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Re: It's baffling that he's not really being considered anywhere
Dec 7, 2021, 9:50 AM
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Dabo might could identify someone better than Chadwell, but he could certainly do a lot worse than Chadwell.
I wouldn't grumble about it one bit if that were to happen somehow.
I do wonder what his position specialty is in terms of who he would be best at coaching.
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everyone said the same about Dabo... turned out ok ;)***
Dec 7, 2021, 9:56 AM
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Re: everyone said the same about Dabo... turned out ok ;)***
Dec 7, 2021, 10:05 AM
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Clemson then is not Clemson now.
Also Clemson got the best possible option, but only hired Dabo after what he showed for 6 games in the interim position.
There is absolutely zero chance that Clemson would have hired a WR coach from another school that had no previous experience as a coordinator or head coach.
If Chadwell and Korn are running the Coastal offense together, and Chadwell is calling the plays, then why would Clemson take a chance on Korn instead of trying to get the guy who actually designed and calls the offense?
Promoting Streeter is a better option than bringing in Korn.
Streeter has multiple season as an offensive coordinator at Richmond and actually called the plays.
Plus Streeter has his time at Clemson to add to his resume.
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wasn't arguing for or against, just making a comparison
Dec 7, 2021, 10:38 AM
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you make good points though... but my hope is we go out and get a big name with bigger credentials than ANY of these options....
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Re: wasn't arguing for or against, just making a comparison
Dec 7, 2021, 10:48 AM
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I understand the big name desire, but going out and stealing the head coach from a school that has been ranked for the last two seasons to come fill a coordinator role in your program is a pretty strong move.
Especially when it's a coach with no previous ties to the school.
Florida and Florida State's last 2 hires at HEAD COACH have been from schools that are comparable to Coastal in level and results.
For Clemson to steal a similar guy to fill a coordinator role would be flexing it's muscles vs those and other recruiting rivals.
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I'd like to have Chadwell
Dec 7, 2021, 10:41 AM
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I think his ideas will work in the bigtime. Can he recruit? Seems he can and evaluate talent. His receivers don't drop passes like ours either.
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Re: I'd like to have Chadwell
Dec 7, 2021, 10:50 AM
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Is he a WRs coach?
If so, it would be an easy transition to have him coach TE's to completely fill Elliott's spot.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 10:48 AM
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Chadwell seems Ike a great choice until he's only here 2 maybe 3 years and we are doing this search all over again. I would rather see Dabo bring in a 5 or 6 year guy. Most players don't like having to learn a new playbook every couple of years.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 10:53 AM
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If he made our offense successful again next year, I don't see how he wouldn't be hired after 1 year. He'd have success and experience as a Head Coach, plus he'd have proven his offense works at the P5 Level.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 11:01 AM
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The way he wouldn't be hired after 1 season is if he didn't like the jobs that were available.
IF (big if) Chadwell were to make that jump then you can eliminate every mid major school as options for him leaving.
I think you could also eliminate the Vandys and Dukes of the football world because he could get one of those if he just stays put.
You would have a guy who is betting on himself to show what he has at the highest level and turn it into a head coaching job at the highest level.
If he were to get a job at a Power 5 school, then there would be a trend of Dabo get major HC jobs for his coordinators and the top guys in the country would be tearing down the doors to fill the positions when they come open.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 10:56 AM
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Dabo knew that if Chad Morris worked he would only be at Clemson for a few years.
That didn't seem to deter recruits when Morris' exit was inevitable.
In all honesty, if Clemson's program stays where it has been in the national standings then there is no such thing as a 5-6 year guarantee unless you are bringing in a guy with absolutely no experience who has to completely prove himself.
Even if Clemson were to promote Streeter there is no guarantee that, if he has success, that a school wouldn't come calling in a year or two to offer him a head coaching position.
Dabo needs to pick the OC who fits the program and will get the best results on the field.
Then if/when that guy leaves, he needs to do it again.
Worrying about how long the guy will stay is handcuffing the process of hiring the best guy.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 11:07 AM
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100%!!!! What I have been saying as well, you hire the best available regardless if they will only be here 2 years… we just go get the best available then . Alabama doesn’t seem to have a problem running through coordinators every 2 years
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 11:21 AM
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I would be shocked if Clemson gets to the Bama spot with coordinators, but if the success continues then Clemson will fall somewhere between what we have seen the last several years of nobody leaving and where Bama is with tons of turnover.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 11:03 AM
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Thinking Dabo has a no mullet policy for coaches so Chadwell would need to get a haircut prior to the interview.
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Re: Korn as OC?
Dec 7, 2021, 11:07 AM
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I'm thinking Dabo would let an OC grow hair down to his butt if he does things the right way and brings a 45/500 offense to Clemson.
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