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Jounge, I need help with a coworker
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Jounge, I need help with a coworker


Apr 21, 2021, 10:21 AM

I am trying to get a submittal to NCDEQ for a project, plan set is probably 200+ pages for the project. Coworker is going to get everything prepped for the submittal and I asked him to shoot me a link to all the documents so I can review before submitting (we are all working remotely).

Then the email exchange goes like this...

Me: After you get all the stuff together, plans, calcs, FRO, etc (check first submittal to make sure we have everything), send me a link to the folder so I can take a look at all the PDFs. Then you can get it printed. We need to submit today or tomorrow, assuming the check really is ready today which I believe it will be. Let me know if there is a problem getting it in by tomorrow afternoon. Thanks.

Coworker: We should be good, I’ll start printing out the plans now they’ll be saved here: (PROJECT FOLDER) . But has anything changed since the last IFB submittal on 4/16/2021?

Me: We need the latest plans, but I believe those are the latest. Are you going to print the entire set of plans or an abbreviated set? I think we should send them off for printing, not print them ourselves.

Coworker: I can if need be, but the last print set I picked the place was 10 mins from where I live it wouldn’t be out the way to grab them.




Now, at this time, can you interpret what he is saying? Seems to me that he doesn't understand me, but the problem is, EVERYTHING is like this. I cannot tell if he is stupid or I am just hard to understand. I do not have this problem with any other coworkers, etc. But we have so many problems due to him not completely understanding what I need.

Thanks for the advice and your precious time.

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Good luck with this,


Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 AM

Aero. And don't forget tax girl shark May this year.

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You're asking him to outsource the printing, and he's


Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 AM

saying that it's just easier to go print them himself 10 minutes away from his house.

My hourly rate is $500. Please tmale for invoice.

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Translation


Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 AM

CoWorker - I've been sitting around for days suckin' down these Kirkland WCs and don't have anything ready but if I confuse this guy enough he'll think it's his fault.

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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
Isaac Asimov


I'd like to give him credit if he could think up this plan


Apr 21, 2021, 10:25 AM

but I really feel this isn't possible.

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You need to make it clear that you would want to see the PDFs before he prints them.


Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 AM

Because you’re a micromanaging control freak. That ought to send the message clearly enough.

I think that’s what you’re asking about, right?

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Well, on another project, I did not micromanage him and I am


Apr 21, 2021, 10:27 AM

spending the rest of this week correcting plans that he made mistakes on (writing wrong elevations for ponds) while the contractor tries to determine what to build.

This guys is a shitshow but I think I am also a bad manager.

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Just a thought. Bare with me here, but have you considered


Apr 21, 2021, 10:28 AM

picking up the phone and calling the guy?

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Yes, but this doesn't work either because, bear with me here


Apr 21, 2021, 10:31 AM

IF IT ISN'T IN WRITING, HE WILL JUST FORGET ABOUT IT. With an email, there is a paper trail.

Phone calls with him are like pulling teeth, he just says "Yeah, I'll get that done real fast" and then does it real fast but incorrectly or partially.

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Paper Trail??? Okay Columbo, is there any real VALUE


Apr 21, 2021, 10:38 AM

to having a paper trail with this goon? I bet it makes you feel good, but unless that paper trail leads him in to an old witch's oven Hanson and Gretta style, then it's probably just better to pick up the old tele and call him..... We call that Adventure Talking.



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to have a real paper trail


Apr 21, 2021, 10:45 AM

the guy needs to print it out and there is already a problem with that

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Agreed 100%. What is the purpose of a paper trail?


Apr 21, 2021, 10:47 AM [ in reply to Paper Trail??? Okay Columbo, is there any real VALUE ]

It's only to GOTCHYA. And what does that solve? Apart from the GOTCHYA being evidence collected to support firing the guy, it solves nothing. Stuff doesn't turn out right, you reflect on your email and remind yourself you did everything right, then passive aggressively forward it to the other guy to let him know he screwed up. Now what?

Call him, Greenr. Then text me pigs of your wife's tiddies.

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Yea, me too.***


Apr 21, 2021, 10:50 AM



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OK, so we have solved the problem with the manager, this


Apr 21, 2021, 10:52 AM [ in reply to Agreed 100%. What is the purpose of a paper trail? ]

is like blaming the masseuses for Deshaun rubbing his wiener all over them.

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well if there were not masseuses that allowed that


Apr 21, 2021, 10:54 AM

DW would had to find somebody else to flop his peener on

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


txtf be like


Apr 21, 2021, 10:56 AM



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Re: Paper Trail??? Okay Columbo, is there any real VALUE


Apr 21, 2021, 3:15 PM [ in reply to Paper Trail??? Okay Columbo, is there any real VALUE ]



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Re: Yes, but this doesn't work either because, bear with me here


Apr 21, 2021, 12:35 PM [ in reply to Yes, but this doesn't work either because, bear with me here ]

Email him what you want. Follow up with a phone call. Give him a time frame to complete this task.

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Okay, boomer.***


Apr 21, 2021, 10:36 AM [ in reply to Just a thought. Bare with me here, but have you considered ]



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Then just say, I need to see them before you print because you ###### the last job up.


Apr 21, 2021, 10:38 AM [ in reply to Well, on another project, I did not micromanage him and I am ]

He will understand.

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Re: Well, on another project, I did not micromanage him and I am


Apr 21, 2021, 1:54 PM [ in reply to Well, on another project, I did not micromanage him and I am ]

Is it really a mistake for the ponds to be 50' higher in elevation than the buildings?

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Two of them were, no joke, and when I asked where he got


Apr 21, 2021, 1:58 PM

that elevation he just said he wasn't sure.


Pond bottoms are around 650 +/- a few feet. Two of them were listed as 683.50, very specific and very wrong. Even worse, he copied from one to the other so it was in there twice.

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If he did that cipherin on 4/20, there's a good chance


Apr 21, 2021, 3:03 PM

he was high, just like his elevations.

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dude, give me a break


Apr 21, 2021, 10:43 AM

I'm trying

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


You youngens don't call and take care of business


Apr 21, 2021, 10:57 AM

you go back and forth taking hours to figure out something simple. There is a communication problem call and address it. You don't have to place blame you need to solve the problem.

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You're the boss. Tell him what to do


Apr 21, 2021, 11:06 AM

Send me the PDF's.

Well I was going to..

No, send me the PDF's

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I like your funny words magic man


Why is this complicated?


Apr 21, 2021, 12:03 PM

Print the ####### things and send them in.

Foist of all...hoo TF prints things anymore. Lutz.


Second of all...hoo gives a shid hoo prints it...just get it done one of you.



JEeze

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I have experience with similar. Your solution is:


Apr 21, 2021, 1:59 PM

You may not give this idiot a list of tasks to do all at once. He does not understand how to manage his own time or the workflow.

Email one: Put the milk in the freezer.

Email B: Get all this #### together and email a link to the PDFs, by X o'clock this afternoon.

Receive email with link.

Email *: Ok, I got the links. Please go back and correct the tertiary status of the flugle binder and redraw the dickbutt on page 7. Send me the corrections when you're done.

Email Omega: Please print the PDFs in whatever way has the least chance of you ####### this part up.

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This guy gets it. Thanks. Baby steps here, but we have


Apr 21, 2021, 3:00 PM

been doing baby steps with him since he started over a year and a half ago. And he isn't directly out of college, he has had two jobs before this one, albeit neither longer than a year. I wasn't pumped about hiring him but it wasn't my final call.

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Of course you bang her


Apr 21, 2021, 2:54 PM

And take photos for job security


Now, I’ll go back and read OP to see how close my advice is to being accurate

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Easy one


Apr 21, 2021, 2:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=452XjnaHr1A

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