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All-Pro [658]
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Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 10:16 AM
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He has taken Clemson to more CWS than Clemson went to all the years before he got there. He has only missed the post-season one time. If the yard birds hadn't won those couple of National Championships most of the bums on this board would still be on Jacks sack. Jack is Clemson baseball and should have the respect of you so called "fans." Hall of Famer in my book. #backjack
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110%er [9023]
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 10:17 AM
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I give him little respect. There you go! 
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Ummmm...no?
Apr 21, 2015, 10:17 AM
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it's been proven that our program has been on a gradual decline under his leadership
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Re: Ummmm...no?
Apr 21, 2015, 10:20 AM
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In all fairness, Jack has been great for Tnet and its parent company google. The amount traffic on this site raised brumps stock at least 12 points.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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That's an excellent point
Apr 21, 2015, 10:22 AM
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maybe the mods have more pull behind the scenes with DRad to keep Jack hired than we think?
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Heisman Winner [111220]
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Re: That's an excellent point
Apr 21, 2015, 10:22 AM
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we will have to go offline with this convo. I look over my shoulder enough as it is.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Ok
Apr 21, 2015, 10:24 AM
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I'll meet up with you in chat
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Oculus Spirit [96778]
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Be careful... deroberts is still spitting in there***
Apr 21, 2015, 10:25 AM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Uhhh....ok? Why should I be careful though?***
Apr 21, 2015, 10:28 AM
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Heisman Winner [111220]
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Re: Ok
Apr 21, 2015, 10:25 AM
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I have been serviced already, and the line is far too long.
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Re: That's an excellent point
Apr 21, 2015, 10:27 AM
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"Bums would still be on Jack's sack?" Please explain.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Gladly, would you prefer powerpoint or prezi?***
Apr 21, 2015, 10:28 AM
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Re: That's an excellent point
Apr 21, 2015, 12:35 PM
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Actually I believe both Jack and Bill Willhelm took the Tigers to the CWS 6 times. I may be off one.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 10:18 AM
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I am happy for what he has done but I still look at our championship count under him and believe he has under achieved.
He has been a good/great coach while at Clemson. I think we need an elite coach.
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Oculus Spirit [96778]
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If Jack helped you
Apr 21, 2015, 10:22 AM
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off a horse, would you help Jack off a horse?
$1 to deadsolidperfect
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Re: If Jack helped you
Apr 21, 2015, 10:23 AM
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most of us wood.
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davidhood sports a horse icon...
Apr 21, 2015, 10:31 AM
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coincidence?
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110%er [5513]
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Hes the Bobby Bowden of baseball
Apr 21, 2015, 10:24 AM
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He built an elite program, but didnt know when to give it up and hurt the program by doing so. Yes he was once great. Now hes a hindrance.
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Re: He wishes.***
Apr 21, 2015, 7:41 PM
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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if Jack's program,didn't fall
Apr 21, 2015, 10:24 AM
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The yard birds could n't have won those national championships
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110%er [6153]
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How do you figure?
Apr 21, 2015, 12:47 PM
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It's hard to rationally claim SCAR's ascendance in baseball occured because of our decline... in fact, a much stronger case can be made that SCAR's ascendance actually caused our decline.
The first time they won the title, we had already beaten them 2 out of 3 in the regular season and we were cruising along in the driver's seat at the CWS when they caught fire and came back and beat us twice to reach the final game and then won the championship from out of the loser's bracket.
Granted, the two programs certainly took different trajectories after that, but SCAR has accomplished what they have in baseball with little or no influence by the issues in Clemson's program.
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Re: if a frog had wings it would not bust its butt everytime
Apr 21, 2015, 7:43 PM
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it hopped and landed.
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Thanks for your input, leggett***
Apr 21, 2015, 10:36 AM
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nm
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect***
Apr 21, 2015, 10:37 AM
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JL by the Numbers
Apr 21, 2015, 10:43 AM
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And this doesn't even include the chit storm that this season has been. So a steady decline in our program deserves the utmost respect?
Wins per Year
1994-1998 49.2. wins per year
1999-2002 47.0 wins per year
2003-2006 44.5 wins per year
2007-2010 40.25 wins per year
2011-2014 38.5 wins per year
Win %
1994-1998 – 246 – 88 (73.6%)
1999-2002 – 188 – 84 (69.1%)
2003-2006 – 174 – 87 (66.7%)
2007-2010 – 161 – 97 (62.4%)
2011-2014 – 154 – 95 (61.8%)
Conference Win %:
1994-1998 – 84-34 (71.2%)
1999-2002 – 63-32 (66.3%)
2003-2006 – 74-34 (68.5%)
2007-2010 – 66-53-1 (55.5%) didn’t include tie
2011-2014 – 66-53 (55.5%)
Accomplishments:
1994-1998 - ACC coach of Year 2x, 2x conference tourney champ, 1 time conference regular season champ, 2 CWS appearances, 3 NCAA regional appearances
1999-2002 - 2 CWS appearances, 2 Super Regionals
2003-2006 - 1 time conference regualar season champ, 1 time conference tourney champ, 2 NCAA regionals, 1 Super Regional, 1 CWS appearance.
2007-2010 - 1 division champ., 2 super regionals, 1 CWS.
2011-2014 - 4 regionals.
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NO, NO, NO!! NOT FACTS!!
Apr 21, 2015, 1:14 PM
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Pumpers can't handle those.
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Re: JL by the Numbers
Apr 21, 2015, 8:47 PM
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If Jack was in the real world with a real job he would have already been fired....based on these numbers which have trended down each year (instead of up)since becoming head coach 20 years ago...He needs to retire or be fired....Go Tigers!!!!!
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 11:32 AM
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Respect for his career and past accomplishments, yes. Support for the team's current direction, no.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 12:04 PM
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I'll bet he and baseball fan are buds.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 2:52 PM
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Give it up, ORNG.
The tools on this board are only interested in circle-jerking each other with "Fire Jack" posts. In fact, unless you hijack threads with that lame mantra you aren't allowed into their cool-guy, circle-jerk club.
You are barking up the wrong tree here, bud.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 2:57 PM
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Oh baseball_fan
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How little respect can I give him
Apr 21, 2015, 3:06 PM
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and still be allowed to post on Tnet? It's important. TIA out loud.
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110%er [7555]
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 8:37 PM
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Time for Jack to retire or be fired.....Clemson baseball needs a fresh start and it needs to start with the head coach.....Go Tigers!!!!!
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 8:59 PM
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Jack doesn't give respect to others (coaches, especially) so why should he deserve respect?
It's time for him to go.
He has methodically run this program into the ground.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 21, 2015, 9:19 PM
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he will get it IF he announces he is retiring at the end of THIS season.....Go Tigers!!!!
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You're a right, I'd still be on Jack bc I don't care what
Apr 22, 2015, 8:06 AM
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SCU does, I care what Clemson does. The slow decline and poor fundamentals have been happening since 2002-03. The head man is responsible and if he can't fix it replace him.
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Saying Thank you for your Service to the University, but
Apr 22, 2015, 8:11 AM
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we need to move in a different direction, is not a lack of respect. It is a response to recent performance, and an ongoing downward trend. Those of us who truly love Clemson want to see us succeed in all areas, especially in one where our historical standard is much better than this. Definitely time to put Jack out to pasture if he won't go willingly.
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Re: Jack deserves a little respect
Apr 22, 2015, 8:15 AM
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This thread reminds me of the old days watching Frank Howard in his final years. Geez - that was painful.
Maybe Jack could "take one for the team" and ... well...
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