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So Neff's goin' around saying
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So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 8, 2022, 9:21 PM

Brownell "really needs to have a good year."

Interesting. Maybe the buyouts entered the acceptable range.

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Since "Neff's goin' around saying"...


Dec 8, 2022, 9:28 PM

...implying he made recent comments, you got links? I think not.

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No genius. I have sources.


Dec 8, 2022, 9:50 PM

Some of us actually do have inside connections to the school and the athletics program.

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If you have to tell us, then you don't dolt


Dec 8, 2022, 9:53 PM

.

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It's not rocket science


Dec 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

Sometimes -- and try to keep up now -- people attend meetings with other people who say stuff. And then those people text other people about what was said.

And in this case, it was Neff saying Brownell needs to have a good year.

This isn't statecraft. It's college athletics.

HTH.

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LOL


Dec 8, 2022, 10:03 PM

.

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come_and_take_it = Thegloryyears811618


Dec 8, 2022, 10:08 PM [ in reply to It's not rocket science ]

It is not rocket science. You gave yourself away.

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Im just one dude. No time for clone handles.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:13 PM

You'll overheat your cylinder thinking too much.

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It's not rocket science come_and_take_it = Gloryyears811618


Dec 8, 2022, 10:34 PM

LOL


Message was edited by: clemson80tiger®


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Geez, what a clown.***


Dec 8, 2022, 9:55 PM [ in reply to No genius. I have sources. ]



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Re: No genius. I have sources.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:15 PM [ in reply to No genius. I have sources. ]



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Love that movie.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:03 PM



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Re: No genius. I have sources.


Dec 9, 2022, 1:05 PM [ in reply to Re: No genius. I have sources. ]

???

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Since you have inside sources, what are they saying about


Dec 8, 2022, 10:41 PM [ in reply to No genius. I have sources. ]

Dabo deciding to give up on winning the Usuc football game?

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Didnt speak to that


Dec 8, 2022, 10:51 PM

only said Cade's really lifted everyone's spirits, which kinda blows the "e'erbody just luuuuuved DJ" narrative to hades.

Also said Dabo plans to make use of the portal this off season.

And that theyre (ACC) a little worried at the projected $50M revenue gap between them and the SEC/Big 10.

Oh - and maybe I mentioned this already - that Brownell needs to have a really good year. This year.

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Re: Didnt speak to that but how about ACC TV contract?


Dec 9, 2022, 6:39 PM

Let's talk more about the difference in the TV contracts with ESPN.
1. ACC contract is worth $50-60M per year less than SEC or Big10
2. ACC contract lasts until 2030 something
3. Who was the idiot that allowed for this stupidity to occur? Was it the UNC athletic director turned conference commissioner?

How could the other people at the conference offices allow this?

This conference is so screwed?

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Re: So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 8, 2022, 9:56 PM

So far so good then.

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Yeah we'll see.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:01 PM



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Re: So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 8, 2022, 9:58 PM

Neff made it clear to BB in both conversation and a follow-up letter in April that making the tournament is the expectation. It doesn't sound like any "new" news to me.

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Yes, that is Neff’s expectation for the program in general.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:02 PM

But not specifically for this year, because he understands that we haven’t had the support in place to expect that.

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Yeah. No.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:24 PM

Your takes are wonderfully imprecise: "expectations in general" ... "but not specifically for this year"

And yet Neff was pretty dern specific on both the what (Win) and the when (this year).

Are you really plugged in or are you just a vendor?

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There is nothing imprecise about what I said.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:15 PM

Neff believes that we can and should be a yearly NCAA Tournament team. Brad does too, by the way.

But Neff has not said that we must make it this year for Brad to keep his job. He doesn’t view this year in such absolute terms.

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At this point, yes he does…***


Dec 8, 2022, 11:46 PM



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There is nothing precise about it, either.


Dec 9, 2022, 12:14 AM [ in reply to There is nothing imprecise about what I said. ]

Youre a clever wordsmith. Very slippery.

But the fact is Neff said Brownell really needs to have a good year.

Sounds pretty absolute to me.

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There are many ways to define “good year.”


Dec 9, 2022, 6:50 PM

Some fans have interpreted that to mean making the NCAA Tournament, but that isn’t the specific expectation.

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What **possible** other outcome would be


Dec 9, 2022, 10:53 PM

acceptable? Or rather, what is the *specific* expectation?

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Re: So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 8, 2022, 10:04 PM [ in reply to Re: So Neff's goin' around saying ]

Wonder if he'll mail Dabo a similar letter about the CFP.

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Neff isn’t planning on firing Brad after this year.


Dec 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

That’s not to say it isn’t possible, but he isn’t expecting to.

HTH.

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So you were in the meeting too?


Dec 8, 2022, 10:02 PM



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I’ve been in lots of meetings.***


Dec 8, 2022, 10:03 PM



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Has Neff said it before in one of your meetings?


Dec 8, 2022, 10:12 PM



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Re: I’ve been in lots of meetings.***


Dec 8, 2022, 10:33 PM [ in reply to I’ve been in lots of meetings.*** ]

You are diffidently the George Costanza out our little group. “We Have Watched You Take Our Beloved Yankees (Tigers) And Reduce Them To A Laughing Stock!”

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You sound like the weather channel


Dec 8, 2022, 10:54 PM [ in reply to Neff isn’t planning on firing Brad after this year. ]

"That cold front's gonna bring some
freezing rain. Unless it doesn't. Either way, we're not wrong."

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Re: Neff isn’t planning on firing Brad after this year.


Dec 9, 2022, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Neff isn’t planning on firing Brad after this year. ]

I’m fairly certain that no AD goes into a season expecting to fire someone, however, I am certain that previous year results and current results can expedite that decision.

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PLEASE, for the love of GOD, do NOT fire Brownlee


Dec 8, 2022, 10:02 PM

We will just have to take money from the football program to pay for a new, shiny coach that will destroy his reputation at Clemson Basketball. We’re doing fine with what we’ve got.

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Everyone runs out runway at some point.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:15 PM

And he's had plenty.

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Re: Everyone runs out runway at some point.


Dec 8, 2022, 10:19 PM

He is padding out of conference schedule with only one true road game and not much competition to tease his way into another year. Oh year he does that every year. Look who Michigan State has played or Gonzaga. Those are real out of conference schedules.

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Our non-conference schedule this year is much stronger than it could’ve been.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:18 PM

We have some good teams on this year’s slate.

We specifically tried to schedule teams who we think will finish with a NET in the top 100.

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"We" huh?


Dec 8, 2022, 11:23 PM

Either way, sounds like "y'all" are in a "Just win, baby" kind of situation.

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Have you followed Clemson basketball for 40 years?


Dec 8, 2022, 10:19 PM [ in reply to Everyone runs out runway at some point. ]

We cannot compete consistently. So just keep a nice guy that runs a clean program, wins occasionally and don’t pay him a ton. That is how you win at Clemson basketball.

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Dabo's a nice guy who runs a clean program


Dec 8, 2022, 10:27 PM

and who also beats Alabama from time to time.

Why cant the bball program climb a little higher too?

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Re: Dabo's a nice guy who runs a clean program


Dec 8, 2022, 10:57 PM

Dabo has not brought the program a little higher. He has catapulted our football team to national prominence. Six playoffs, four National Championship Games, two National titles, seven ACC Championships in eight years. Many players drafted into the NFL. He's a tremendous coach and inspiration to many. Hope he keeps on doing it for us another fifteen years.

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Yes, thanks for that.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:01 PM

Always good having Dabo's resume wallpapered to the thread. Again.

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Re: Yes, thanks for that.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:07 PM

All I see when I read come and take it’s posts: EGO. Mr. connected over here with his connections and no proof. I bet you smile to yourself after you post #### like this.

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Focus on the steak, son, not the peas.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:20 PM

Im dropping solid intel here. Just plain good thread fodder.

Maybe just smile. Then say "Thanks, Come and Take It. Im glad you're sharing your tasty takes."

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Based on what he’s posted here, he doesn’t have any connections.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:20 PM [ in reply to Re: Yes, thanks for that. ]

At least not as it relates to basketball.

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Right. I said Neff said something about Brownell.


Dec 8, 2022, 11:34 PM

Not that I had a connection to the basketball program.

I seem to have jostled your tiara. This was not my intention.

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Re: Dabo's a nice guy who runs a clean program


Dec 9, 2022, 6:56 PM [ in reply to Dabo's a nice guy who runs a clean program ]

Brad beats Alabama too! He is 3-1 vs Alabama since the 2008\9 season

2020-21
Neutral
Atlanta, Ga.
Alabama 56 - Clemson 64

12/18/2016 2016-17
Home
Birmingham, Ala.
Alabama 54 - Clemson 67

12/13/2015 2015-16
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Greenville, S.C.
Alabama 51 - Clemson 50

1/6/2009 2008-09
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Clemson, S.C.
Alabama 59 - Clemson 66

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Re: So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 9, 2022, 9:53 AM

https://giphy.com/gifs/laff-tv-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-laff-ggKjpRRNpquxc1DIDU


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Re: So Neff's goin' around saying


Dec 9, 2022, 11:30 AM

?????? ? fight

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It is pretty funny


Dec 9, 2022, 2:17 PM

Learning firsthand that Judge K doesnt like anyone other than himself leading any discussion about the litterbox that is the CU bball program.

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I love it when people initiate basketball discussion


Dec 9, 2022, 6:53 PM

but I’ll typically interject when I see something that is inaccurate.

Don’t confuse me having an opinion different than yours with me not liking the discussion.

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Where did I go wrong?


Dec 9, 2022, 10:59 PM

You mentioned I popped something inaccurate into the thread ... what was it?

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i really enjoyed this thread and


Dec 9, 2022, 6:59 PM

fully support clemson in this decision.


#tickticktick

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I for one am glad you are stopping. You are one of the most ignorant posters ever. You obviously think very highly of your own opinion, unlike the rest of us - RockHillTiger


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