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With the big ten going to east/west divisons, the ACC should
Apr 28, 2013, 10:34 PM
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be next to go with geography. Which will be great for Clemson, check it out.
ACC North/South
South:
Miami
FSU
Ga Tech
Clemson
Wake
NC St
UNC
Throw in ND every couple of years and this is a great football divison, can't wait.
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Winston-Salem is more north than Durham though***
Apr 28, 2013, 10:39 PM
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Not when considering the student bodies ....
Apr 28, 2013, 10:51 PM
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... Duke = University of New Jersey @ Durham.
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I think you'll have to put...
Apr 28, 2013, 11:25 PM
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UNC and Duke in the same division. Otherwise, that works.
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I like the division names of "Us" and "Some Other Guys"
Apr 28, 2013, 11:36 PM
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better. Of course there's something to be said for the old classics, "Good" and "Evil."
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Re: With the big ten going to east/west divisons, the ACC should
Apr 29, 2013, 5:31 AM
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First off,Duke and North Carolina will be in the same division because that would be the way they would want ,and get,it.Don't forget who the Commionisher is!
Secondly,Notre Dame won't be in either division because techinally they are not a part of the ACC football landscape.
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That's my thinking, also, Leftie, and I could see two
Apr 29, 2013, 5:38 AM
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divisions, as follows:
NORTH
BC
Cuse
Pitt
VT
UVA
UNC
Duke
SOUTH
Clemson
FSU
GT
Miami
Louisville
NC State
Wake
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Miami and FSU need to be in seperate divisions.***
Apr 29, 2013, 7:54 AM
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Really? Why so?***
Apr 29, 2013, 8:01 AM
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Balance
Apr 29, 2013, 8:07 AM
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Having all three of you in one division makes your conference unbalanced.
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Oculus Spirit [96799]
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Maybe right now, but things can change. 10 years ago would
Apr 29, 2013, 8:19 AM
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you have expected Alabama (4-9 record in 2003) to be winning national championships and Tennessee (10-3 record) to be a bottom feeder in a decade?
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All-In [25381]
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LOL...No doubt said with tongue-in-cheek when
Apr 29, 2013, 8:28 AM
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one considers the SEC West division. No need to be fair about it, as I see it....
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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VT is in the north
Apr 29, 2013, 12:59 PM
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and Louisville would be geographically north too. It would all even out eventually.
In the 8 ACC Championship games played, 7 teams from the Northern half of the conference have appeared (8 if Wake is an ACC North team) and 3 teams have won (again, 4 if you count Wake).
People forget that schools like Boston College have been very successful in the past, and other schools like Syracuse or UVA certainly have the potential to make good runs.
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I never expect either of those schools to be too bad. They are
Apr 29, 2013, 8:25 AM
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both traditionally good. Anything can happen though and teams definitely go through cycles. Don't you guys want fsu and miami to be goodd though?
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We'd like to think that most of the ACC teams would be
Apr 29, 2013, 8:30 AM
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good...just not quite good enough to beat us. Naturally, that demonstrates a slight prejudice. lol
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UT - traditionally good ?
Apr 29, 2013, 8:31 AM
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Disagree. Except during the decade or so that Fulmer had them playing for and winning a national championship , they havent ever really been very good. Look at the overall win -loss record. Alabama is and always will be a traditional power ...but the Vols pulled a Sackerlina and had a nice , abbreviated little successful period. It can be argued that we ended it when we spanked them in the Peach-fil-a bowl in 2004.
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Oculus Spirit [96799]
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Who said UT was traditionally good? Fewer people
Apr 29, 2013, 8:36 AM
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actually reply to the correct post these days so not sure who this was directed to. Anyway, all I said was, in the year 2003, with Tennessee a national power, who would have expected them to fall flat on their faces within a few years.
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Yeah I forgot about UL. But UT is traditionally good. Every
Apr 29, 2013, 8:34 AM
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team goes through cycles. Notice I said good not great.
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directed to tigerdug23, but not trying to be rude or anything***
Apr 29, 2013, 8:38 AM
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agreed...really need that change for GT's sake
Apr 29, 2013, 8:42 AM
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they don't get to play FSU often at all and they need the ticket sales big time.
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Re: agreed...really need that change for GT's sake
Apr 29, 2013, 9:05 AM
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Gone are Legends and Leaders, the controversial division names the Big Ten adopted in 2011, as the league went with a clear geographical model and geographic names for its new alignment.
The Big Ten East will include: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers. The Big Ten West will include: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin.
Every East division team is located in the Eastern time zone, while every West division team except Purdue is located in the Central time zone.
Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told ESPN.com that geography was the first priority in aligning divisions, followed by preserving rivalries and then competitive balance. The Big Ten used competitive balance as its top priority in aligning the Legends and Leaders divisions in 2011.
"It's pure geography," Delany said. "Last time, we were a combination of competitive balance and geography being last. So those names weren't available to us last time. We didn't have a lot of discussion on it."
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110%er [7913]
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those names were awful***
Apr 29, 2013, 9:07 AM
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Re: With the big ten going to east/west divisons, the ACC should
Apr 29, 2013, 9:16 AM
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louisville south unc,duke north
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agree...
Apr 29, 2013, 9:19 AM
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About them being a good program traditionally , if good is the 4-5 loss a year kind of good. Alabama great decade after decade ..Tennessee has hit some highs but they are not a traditional powerhouse throughout their history.
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...***
Apr 29, 2013, 9:21 AM
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Actually man Bama was kind of bad from 97-07.
Apr 29, 2013, 9:22 AM
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So it is as I said earlier. Not that any of that matters on this board.
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Apr 29, 2013, 9:24 AM
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ACC should divide into North/South divisions. LOUISVILLE should find a home in the southern bracket ...put Miami in with the Northern schools.
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still trying to find a map that has Miami north of Kentucky***
Apr 29, 2013, 9:32 AM
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Oculus Spirit [96799]
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Maybe he meant Miami of Ohio.***
Apr 29, 2013, 9:34 AM
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It's time for Miami to be in our division
Apr 29, 2013, 11:38 AM
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The southern-most school in the conference (by a long shot) in the North? That's really taking advantage of them. I understand their fans don't necessarily travel any way, but that's a tremendous amount of travel.
Not to mention that a school with that much tradition will find a way back to relevancy. I know Louisville is the hot pick right now, but I'd rather play Miami every year.
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Re: It's time for Miami to be in our division
Apr 29, 2013, 12:52 PM
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I will take Miami, would help out bigtime in recruiting south florida playing them every year.
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The ACC wants to avoid a former Big East vs. Old ACC
Apr 29, 2013, 1:37 PM
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setup which is essentially what a North/South Alignment is. I also think the schools like being able to play throughout the east coast instead of being stuck up north or down south especially with the new scheduling.
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