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It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 8:48 AM
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If anyone wants to help with input, I am drafting a letter to the Board of Trustees and the current President.
Within the next month, we need to begin a national search for a black president.
By the start of the 20-21 academic year, Clements needs to step down we need to install our beloved university’s first black president.
Do y’all think Jim Clements will support this, seeing as it is the right thing to do and long overdue?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 8:52 AM
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I am quite certain there is a succession plan already in place to fill that position with the most qualified person available.
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All-In [37062]
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But the Board of Trustees needs to be only people of color
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:25 PM
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or else you’ll just get the same perpetuation of systemic racism that is the defining characteristic of Clemson University.
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ONLY if IT is a POST...
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 3:16 AM
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Op Transexual? and a charter member of NAMBLA?Left coast progressives would be impressed w/ a NAMBLA member hire-
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Legend [16999]
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Please. It makes me want to puke, or go out and buy a pistol
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 12:25 PM
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all at the same time knowing that an "organization" like Nambla actually exists.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 8:57 AM
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What percent of the student body and faculty is black?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:06 AM
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Is it not racist to say4 that only one race or creed can be the next University President in stead of taking the most qualified one. Clemson University used to mean that one had to earn their way and grades. I do not care if the next president is pink with purple polka dots. Just make sure that this person can do the job. I am not interested if this one is PC, just able to get the job done. Also let the students enjoy their rights within normal parameters.
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All-In [37062]
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Yet somehow we got Max Lennon.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:45 PM
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Explain that one.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:09 AM
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After all it's all about the color of ones skin...not the nature of their character...does not matter what they've earned in life or what price advancement has cost...while we are on this one lets look at what comprises the makeup of fans in the football stadiums in college and professional sports...when bubba gets tired of this 'crap' he'll turn in his season tickets and the whole house of cards will come tumbling down...hope Watkins and Watson have 'agricultural' skills! Probably could grow great tomatoes in death valley...heck we already have 'water'! After all we've already had a black 'president' and he was a jewel!
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Scout Team [169]
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this is a great idea, we should not evaluate any white candidates and
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:08 AM
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And only evaluate minorities. Maybe we could put a grading system in place based on shade of skin as part of the evaluation? Whatever happened to affirmative action?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:10 AM
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I don't know about Clements, but I can tell you I'm not quiting my job and livelihood so that a person with a different skin shade can be hired to replace me. Would you? It sounds like that would be promoting racism, which is exactly what most of us are opposed to.
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Then you must be a racist
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
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Only 2 sides. Racist or blm
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All-In [27352]
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Choosing someone just because of their color
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:10 AM
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is just as bad, and even riskier than not choosing someone because of their color.
But racists don't understand that.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:18 AM
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This is a great plan. Has Clements ever put on black face? Maybe there is a video of him in 1989 using the N word!
Maybe his great great grandpa owned slaves or was friends with someone who did!
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:28 AM
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I can see why people are marching more and more. Lame comment.
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Job not available***
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:35 AM
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What has President Clements done to be replaced..
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:41 AM
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and why with a Black (man or woman). Seems like a knee jerk idea from “Left” field.
About as bad an idea as my saying we need more White football players & some of our very good Black players need to step down.
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Re: What has President Clements done to be replaced..
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:11 PM
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and why with a Black (man or woman). Seems like a knee jerk idea from “Left” field.
About as bad an idea as my saying we need more White football players & some of our very good Black players need to step down.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:40 AM
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I’ve seen and heard some dumb #### and this is right up there. We have by far the best President in my lifetime and your racist ### wants to run him off?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:40 AM
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I personally think Clements is doing a good job as the current President. If I change my mind in the future it will be because I disagree with his direction for the university, not because I think “its time” for a change.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:42 AM
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Good grief why should clement step down
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Re: Thank you all for your input.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 12:44 PM
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Yeah, it’s clear what you’re doing, and it’s stupid. They’re changing the name. It will have almost zero effect on anyone except pissing some people off and making some other people feel a little more part of the community. You choose to be angry and snarky. That’s your problem and no one else’s. Grow up.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Thoughtful questions to liberals
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 1:13 PM
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- like garlic to vampires.
No one should have been so offended by my post.
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Re: Thoughtful questions to liberals
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 1:29 PM
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Your post is the very definition of racism.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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It would help if you could explain that, please.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 2:13 PM
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Letterman [270]
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Re: It would help if you could explain that, please.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 6:05 PM
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Be glad to.
rac·ism
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noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group
Discriminating against a person based on their race is racism which is what you are advocating for in your original message.
I would also like to point out it is illegal to discriminate based on race.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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So any time an organization focuses in on hiring
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 7:09 PM
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a black candidate, that is racist and illegal???
Is that what you are telling me?
That just doesn’t seem right at all.
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Re: So any time an organization focuses in on hiring
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 6:38 AM
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If you are focusing on one group, to the exclusion of all others, then yes, you are being racist. In all actuality, you are just being plain stupid. By focusing on a quality, other than intelligence and / or capability to perform, you are begging for the worst solution.
Personally, I think you posted this, not because you actually believe what you are saying, but just trolling. Nobody could really be that stupid.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Interesting comments.***
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:43 AM
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I Guess There Will Never...
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:19 AM
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come a time when we'll say we hired the most qualified candidate not...well we hired person X because of the color of his skin .
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Trolling the 'Twilight Zone'...?***
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:54 AM
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:58 AM
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How about a female president?
I hope you’re not serious.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:04 AM
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The next President's selection should be based on his or her qualifications not their race. A person's race should never come into play.
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Orange Blooded [2731]
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You are correct but that is very naive today.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:09 AM
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Every heard of “quotas”
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Re: You are correct but that is very naive today.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:33 AM
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Any decent candidate would not want to be selected based on anything other than their qualifications. I do think when the job comes open they should have a slate of candidates reflective of the student body.
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We should not forget the non-binary people
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:32 AM
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They should be given a few extra credit points on the hiring scale
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 6:41 AM
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Michelle Obama. 2 birds/ 1 stone.
Besides, we all know how proud she us of this country. Now we could see up close and personal
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:11 AM
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Absolutely it is time. And also time for a black head football coach. What percentage of the unpaid football players are black? Yet the coach being paid millions is not black. The epitome of racial injustice. Time for Dabo to step down and make way for head coach CJ Spiller, Tahj Boyd, Tony Elliott?
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Thank you all for your input.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
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And for your thumbs down. It seems we’re not quite ready for this.
Many of the responses were hateful. In a world where love needs to conquer all. Disappointing.
I was most interested to find out if people thought Jim Clements should support something like this...or if he should draw the line where it could negatively affect his own position in life.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:37 AM
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So, end racism by using evaluations based on race? Perhaps, you are part of the problem?
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110%er [5667]
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What the OP is trying to do...
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:42 AM
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Not maliciously, though. I’m honestly very curious about this.***
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:52 AM
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110%er [7365]
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Stirring the pot of racism
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 1:26 PM
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is malicious, and more specifically and intentionally racist. We get it, you have a problem with Black Americans having the same rights as you. You don’t have any genuine curiosity here, you’re afraid whatever vestige of white power you’re clinging to is going get taken away in all this.
This is about equality, real equality, nothing will be taken from you. So quit being a whiny race baiter and help us all achieve equality in America.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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Very odd that I’m racist because I would advocate for a black president.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 4:23 PM
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The rules must be changing by the minute with some of you.
And I trust you will not be voting for Joe Biden in November. He said his VP would definitely be black (I think a black woman, specifically) but that particular person had not been chosen yet.
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110%er [7365]
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Nobody wants to hear your trolly
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 6:17 PM
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racist BS. You don’t have a point. You’re like the only kid at the party that’s still in diapers, which is embarrassing enough, but you insist on removing them and flinging poo to draw attention to yourself.
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Orange Blooded [3540]
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You don’t want a black president...and I’m the racist. Got it.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 6:28 PM
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And I don’t have a trolly.
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110%er [7365]
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Oh I’m fine with any President as long as it’s not
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 9:56 PM
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Max Lennon again, rest his s soul. Tried to turn Clemson into BJU.
I’m not fine with you jizzing white victimhood hysteria all over the board. You’re not funny, you have no point, and racist trolling is YOUR projection of YOUR fear and has nothing to do with Clemson. Burn your cross somewhere else, redneck
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Re: Oh I’m fine with any President as long as it’s not
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Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 6:45 AM
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HEYYYYYYYYYYY
im a redneck. Dont be putting him over with my group. I dont want him
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110%er [7365]
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LOL, my bad.***
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 12:21 PM
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Re: Not maliciously, though. I’m honestly very curious about this.***
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 1:54 PM
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B.S. You are fanning the flames. You need to listen and follow Dabo's comments. Why people like you can't understand why it might be hurtful for people to attend a school who honors a racist traitor or who honors a racist murderous thug. Dabo said he was thankful for the BOT actions. Why don't you join him?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:46 AM
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How about hire the best qualified person for that job or any job in fact. Skin tone or gender be darned .
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:47 AM
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Genius. Every job in America should take this same approach. Even if there aren’t enough black folks to fill all the jobs.
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110%er [7225]
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And why 'is it time" for a black president at Clemson.......
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:49 AM
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because where has Present Clements failed in his job?
This would be unfair to him.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 11:54 AM
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You must be a racist ......because it is definitely racist to appoint anybody to any position just based on their skin color......skin color should have nothing to do with it and it should purely be based on your qualifications......this is truly nuts......Go Tigers!!!!!!
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Worry about what the president can do. Everything else is irrelevant***
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 12:05 PM
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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I think you need to evolve beyond looking at everything through the lens of color.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 2:40 PM
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David Palmer was an awesome president in 24.
Maybe he is available?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:02 PM
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Why don't you ask him?
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Legend [17573]
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You Should Read Dabo's Speech of Yesterday
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:05 PM
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His commentary is the most insightful from any color of person. Stop defining things by color.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 3:28 PM
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No he would not and neither would the BOT. He is doing a great job.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 4:02 PM
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I couldn’t care less what color a qualified person is. But suggesting that you seek a black candidate while excluding other races is the very definition of racism.
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 4:26 PM
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I understand a candidate for president has announced his VP will be of color and female-is this necessarily the best qualified choice? Is it both sexist and race driven?
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Yes and Yes
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I’m shocked you didn’t suggest we get our first black football head coach.
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Dabo should retire now so that the black coach can take over. After all, it’s not about what’s necessarily best for the program, but that he’s black.
What better way to show our current and future players, most of whom are black, that Clemson “gets it.”
I’m sure you will be in agreement with this. Right?
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Athletic Dir [851]
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Chris Howard
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 7:33 PM
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But he is very good friends with Clements, so only if Clements moves to a bigger stage.
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Id rather they hire the best person for the job no matter...
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:18 PM
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there race, religion, or what rests between their legs. Making it a point to hire a black person is in and of itself racist. You cant ignore that fact just bc it helps the minority. I understand where your heart is, but you cant turn down a bunch of deserving whites bc theyre white.
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CU Guru [1110]
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 14, 2020, 10:24 PM
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Speaking of black, latest update on BLM’s platform and demands. From their own website. The truth is out there
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 1:18 AM
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Facts don’t matter.. if they did the biggest protests would be in the South Side of Chicago, why aren’t we getting the videos from every murder there.. nobody has the balls to stand there and video them, or live to share it. The site below is realtime facts.
https://heyjackass.com/
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 6:15 AM
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They don’t even try to hide it now. I think they believe a large part of our population will buy into their Marxist beliefs and another large part will follow blindly thinking the organization is actually about racial harmony. Sheep.
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I wanna help?Let me mail it...
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 3:37 AM
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Send you a vid of your letter being tINPUT into a paper schredder; nah just playin, I'll mail it, FR!
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
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Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 12:29 PM
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You don't replace just for the sake of replacing if the person is doing a good job.
Our President has done a good job and He has been very involved in recruiting
players, black or white. Our society overreacts with feelings instead of
using common sense and the brains that God gave us!
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 12:43 PM
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What I am finding out in general is there's a vocal minority of knee jerk reaction people in this world. Let's do something because it is the right reason and not just because the limelight or focus is cast on Clemson. This goes for any of the mainstream media topics. Once again, the fringe right or left is wagging the dog.
Never waste a good crisis to push forth an agenda!
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Orange Blooded [4559]
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Re: It’s time for a black President of Clemson University.
Posted: Jun 15, 2020, 1:58 PM
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I have two nominees:
Dr. Ben Carson
Dr. Thomas Sowell
Both are eminently qualified.
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