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Comparing Brownell to Lee is apples to oranges
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Comparing Brownell to Lee is apples to oranges


May 27, 2022, 12:21 PM

Coach Brownell is able to recruit players with full scholarships (15 players). This allows him to recruit from any state in the US and even outside the US.
Coach Lee has a total of 11.7 scholarships for the whole team (35-40 players). Out of state players must pay out of state tuition which is about $25,000/year. This limits the players Coach Lee can recruit to mostly in state products. Most parents cannot pay $100,000 for their son to play baseball at Clemson if they live out of state.

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It's the reality of playing a sport that loses money.


May 27, 2022, 1:03 PM

You don't get a full complement of scholarships.

Those scholarship limits are in place for every team, not just Clemson.

What I don't think is fair is schools circumventing the baseball scholarship limit by using their endowments to give players non-athletic scholarships. However, it is legal. And Clemson should've done a better job for the last 100+ years building our endowment so that we aren't limited by that.

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May 27, 2022, 2:04 PM



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May 28, 2022, 6:50 AM [ in reply to It's the reality of playing a sport that loses money. ]

Clemson should have done a better job building an endowment over the past 100 years so that we would be better prepared for the loophole in baseball scholarship limits that allow schools to give non-athletic scholarships to baseball players in 2022?

I would like to find out who dropped the ball on this in 1922.
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We should have done a better job building our endowment period.


May 28, 2022, 11:08 AM

I personally think it’s silly to spend university funds to give scholarships to baseball players to circumvent the scholarship limit.

My point was that some Clemson fans like to complain that we don’t have a big endowment or wealthy alumni like some other schools. That is largely because of decisions that were made dating back to the founding of our university.

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Re: It's the reality of playing a sport that loses money.


May 28, 2022, 12:09 PM [ in reply to It's the reality of playing a sport that loses money. ]

Full scholarships are coming in the near future.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/04/27/ncaa-new-transformation-committee-changes
The Transformation Committee is considering wholesale changes that would make the NCAA’s post–Mark Emmert era a completely different experience.
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Re: Comparing Brownell to Lee is apples to oranges


May 27, 2022, 10:16 PM

Totally flawed argument, out-of-state tuition for Clemson is about $40k/ year

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its about losing versus winning


May 27, 2022, 10:43 PM

not apples versus oranges.

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May 28, 2022, 9:40 AM

help, it would be baseball. An NIL deal for each player not on scholarship, to at least equal the cost of a scholarship, would go a long way towards leveling the recruiting field. We just need to be sure same are structured so as not to fall afoul of whatever rulz the weak NCAA has left.

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May 28, 2022, 11:04 AM

We got bad oranges, we got bad apples. Dump them into the pig feed

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Re: Comparing Brownell to Lee is apples to oranges


May 28, 2022, 3:11 PM

Baseball recruiting is an uneven playing field. Tough to judge Monte’s performance because of that. At least he is high energy and enthusiastic and seems to know the game. Not sure which of those if any CBB has.

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