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Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired
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Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 1:11 PM

acc records by season

Christie McKinney:

2005: 2-14
2006: 2-13
2007: 5-11
2008: 5-11
2009: 3-13
2010: 4-11

Itoro Coleman:

2011: 3-12
2012: 2-14
2013: 5-13

Audra Smith:
2014: 4-12
2015: 1-15
2016: 0-14


total: 36-153 winning % of 19%

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 1:14 PM

Audra Smith:
2014: 4-12
2015: 1-15
2016: 0-14

yikes

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 1:14 PM

AND WE CARE WHY.

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its a Clemson athletics program that is an absolute disgrace


Feb 22, 2016, 1:15 PM

Considering how good we are in certain other sports, it's unacceptable

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Re: its a Clemson athletics program that is an absolute disgrace


Feb 22, 2016, 1:30 PM

BUT THE FACT IS IF THEY GOT REALLY GOOD I WOULD FEEL OBLIGATED TO WATCH SOME OF IT. LOL

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 1:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired ]

I dont much other than Clemson screwed over Jim davis who was winning to go PC and it has bitten them in the backside. Those who did this should be fired.

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Some people actual enjoy women's sports.***


Feb 22, 2016, 4:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired ]



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Not many Clemson "fans"***


Feb 23, 2016, 3:18 PM



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Because this is a Clemson team. I, and most others, want


Feb 22, 2016, 10:06 PM [ in reply to Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired ]

all Clemson teams to be successful.

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This from the guy that likes to flame everyone that says


Feb 23, 2016, 10:29 AM [ in reply to Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired ]

anything negative about the football or baseball programs?

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The most games we have won in 11 years is 5, and that's only


Feb 22, 2016, 1:19 PM

twice? Wow.

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'I Cannot Sanction Your Buffoonery'


Re: The most games we have won in 11 years is 5, and that's only


Feb 22, 2016, 10:33 PM

I guess everyone has to suck at something. I am sure glad we don't suck at Football like USUC.

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That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 1:20 PM

Twelve years ago, Holly Warlick was prepared to come to Clemson to resurrect and lead this program but the University would not pay her the money she wanted and deserved and so here we are, twelve years and thirty six win later. Clearly, wimmins basketball is not a priority for the Clemson University Athletic Department.




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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


thats true


Feb 22, 2016, 1:26 PM

But considering our success in other sports you would think they would have an issue with being absolutely terrible. I would be happy with a decent women's team that makes the tournament once every 4-5 years or so.

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Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 1:26 PM [ in reply to That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires... ]

Loved me some jim davis. but what were his acc record his last couple years? the program slipped badly toward the end of his tenure. it was time for a change, but it was handled so very poorly.

and holly warwick has UT out of the top 25 for the first time in about 25 years NO doubt she would have been a better hire than any of the 3 we've hired. but no guarantee she's have had much more success.

think the problem is not just quality of coaching. to have even a modicum of success, we're gonna have to up our commitment.. HC salary, salary pool for assts, recruiting budget, etc.

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he was never that bad


Feb 22, 2016, 1:28 PM

his last season we made the Women's NIT and were about .500 in the ACC.

He had us as an NCAA tournament 2 seed in 1999!

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Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 2:07 PM [ in reply to Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires... ]

Holly Warwick has been a disaster at UT, particularly considering the fact that she inherited the second best program in the country. She may be gone after this year.

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Warlick has hardly been a disaster at UT....


Feb 22, 2016, 2:18 PM

While 2015/2016 has been a bit of a down year for them, her team was 30-6 last year, tied for first in the SEC and made it the Elite Eight. In 2014, the team finished 29 - 6, tied for 2nd in the $EC and made it to the Sweet Sixteen. In 2013, the team finished 27-8, won the $EC and made it to the Elite Eight.

No way in he!! UT fires her after this season.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 10:34 PM [ in reply to That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires... ]

Yes, clearly not a priority at all. Honestly can't say that it upsets me that it is not.

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Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 10:45 PM

Maybe some Tiger fans would actually like success for all Clemson sports including both basketball programs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the sentiment that believes we have the means to compete and become tournament worthy some seasons.

Go Tigers!

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Re: That's because those were three absolutely horrid hires...


Feb 22, 2016, 10:47 PM

I kind of wish we would quit playing women's b.ball and start playing fast pitch instead.

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Why?***


Feb 23, 2016, 2:58 PM



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like football after Danny Ford.***


Feb 22, 2016, 1:40 PM



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except much longer***


Feb 22, 2016, 3:03 PM



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Looks like Coleman should have


Feb 22, 2016, 3:13 PM

gotten like 5 more years. Program was heading in the right direction. It's just impossible to win at Clemson.

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 3:18 PM

Thought this was gonna be about the Garfield cartoon .
Very disappointed.

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DB23


Here's you


Feb 22, 2016, 3:21 PM



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Re: Here's you


Feb 22, 2016, 3:24 PM

Not sure if being mean .



+1 for accuracy.

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DB23


I has the sirius


Feb 22, 2016, 3:26 PM

Didn't put dos and dos together til your post. Well done.

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I don't know what it takes to be successful in women's basketball


Feb 22, 2016, 3:41 PM

But I'm guessing it involves the things it takes to be successful in any college sport:

-Commitment from the university
-A good coach who can recruit
-Nice facilities
-Fan interest/support

Hopefully the Littlejohn improvements will help with recruiting. I'm assuming that we do not have the talent that the other ACC teams have. If not, why? A fun, passionate black coach who has had success elsewhere should be able to get some good players. If she hasn't, why is that the case?

I get that we don't want to overspend for a women's basketball coach. It is not a money maker and there is minimal fan interest. But I do want to see us be competitive, and the last decade has been abhorrent.

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 4:23 PM

Clemson needs to change the way it looks at women's basketball. A successful women's program can generate a lot of revenue today. This isn't the 80s. There's actually a market for good women's teams.

And the sad thing is, the top women's teams are more fundamentally sound that the men's teams. Watch UConn play. There are very few men's teams that play that good of basketball. Most rely on pure athleticism instead of solid fundamentals.

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 4:53 PM

You are absolutely 100% correct in your post...well stated.

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Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired


Feb 22, 2016, 5:07 PM

For women's basketball, these numbers are pretty amazing and show the growth and popularity the game has received over the past few years.

2015 Women’s Basketball Home A? endance Team Leaders
DIVISION I
Rk School G A? tendance Average
1. South Carolina 16 196,684 12,293
2. Tennessee 18 186,754 10,375
3. Louisville 17 161,754 9,515
4. Iowa St. 17 157,916 9,289
5. Notre Dame 20 170,882 8,544
6. UConn 15 123,247 8,216
7. Kentucky 17 108,436 6,379
8. Baylor 19 120,484 6,341
9. Purdue 16 100,458 6,279
10. Michigan St. 16 97,906 6,119
11. Nebraska 16 93,707 5,857
12. Oklahoma 13 69,852 5,373
13. Gonzaga 14 75,127 5,366
14. Iowa 18 95,417 5,301
15. Maryland 17 89,016 5,236
16. New Mexico 17 87,849 5,168
17. Texas A&M 15 75,511 5,034

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What?!? Scar wimmenz generate more fans


Feb 22, 2016, 10:25 PM

in the seats than our men's team? That's cra cra

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Tell 'em leadcoot


Feb 23, 2016, 8:35 AM

.

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^^^its Tuesday and ol Clemson80 still has


Feb 23, 2016, 10:27 AM

nothin to say.....

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So Terrier, you're confirming what we already knew


Feb 22, 2016, 11:18 PM [ in reply to Re: Women's basketball since Jim Davis was fired ]

the "lady ####" basketball team not only out draws the men's team, but is the 2nd highest attended sport at Carolina South?

Its nice you have something to boast about

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For relaxing times, make it Suntory time


You can thank TDP and Prez Barker for that...


Feb 22, 2016, 5:44 PM

Running Jim Davis off for no reason, only to replace him with under qualified coaches

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Re: You can thank TDP and Prez Barker for that...


Feb 22, 2016, 11:13 PM

You're not suggesting it was an "affirmative" move are you TK?

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Dead on TIP


Feb 22, 2016, 11:10 PM

Sometimes numbers speak louder than words. Never understood letting Jim Davis go. Seemed to be a h£ll of a guy, and always had the wimminz in the top half of the league.

As I remember, we usually finished 3rd-5th in league play

Still a head scratcher to me

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and you can see it based on what happened after Clemson


Feb 23, 2016, 3:06 AM

Davis was hired to coach the WNBA's Minnesota Lynx. So obviously very highly regarded in women's basketball circles.

Since being fired McKinney has only been an assistant at Elon.

Since being forced Coleman has crawled back to Penn State to take up a position she held before her time at Clemson

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Dang, you could almost bet an empty chair could have


Feb 23, 2016, 11:45 AM

averaged 3 ACC wins a season. I did not realize we had been this dismal for this long. Get Dabo involved in the next coaching search!

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Ha! Yes - Dabo could definitely get


Feb 23, 2016, 12:29 PM

it done!

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nobody really realizes it because absolutely nobody goes


Feb 23, 2016, 1:03 PM [ in reply to Dang, you could almost bet an empty chair could have ]

to the games because o0f how bad they are

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5-11, 7-9, 2-12 and a bare cupboard


Feb 23, 2016, 2:19 PM

Is sufficient to get you fired. Obviously the hires have been bad but doesn't mean Davis should have been kept either. I don't follow the program so not sure how young we are or if we have a good class coming in. I thought I saw we had signed a really good player out of GA??

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its the hires after davis***


Feb 24, 2016, 4:12 PM



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Interesting...***


Feb 24, 2016, 6:14 PM



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