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Imagine if we had made as big a deal over the flu?
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Imagine if we had made as big a deal over the flu?

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:10 AM
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The flu is a killer. Every year, according to the CDC some 350k-400k unhealthy, elderly (and yes sometimes children) die of the flu. There would have never been a football game played, school attended, job completed over the last 100 years. I don’t get it.

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:14 AM
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Its more deadly than the flu and the unvaccinated are filling up the ICU units. That said, I agree that at one point we are just going to have to live with it and move on.

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:41 AM
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Exactly, learn to live and move on. We are putting quantity of life above quality

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:16 AM
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I pray that you do not have anyone close to you die from COVID. Ignoring it won't make it go away.

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nothing is going to make it go away, it's time to accept

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:33 AM
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that as fact.

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Sep 2, 2021, 9:10 AM
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I am not saying ignore it. I was in the hospital for over a week with it with a Covid pneumonia. I am vaccinated now, but we have to live our lives is all I am saying. Full speed ahead.

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You may want to talk to some doctors, nurses in hospitals


Sep 2, 2021, 8:37 AM
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before you talk about quality of life.

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Sep 2, 2021, 7:34 AM
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98.7 percent survive. How’s it more deadly ?

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99.8% to 99.9% Survive the Flu.***

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:25 AM
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Re: 99.8% to 99.9% Survive the Flu.***

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:29 AM
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as do the survival rate for covid. the reason this seems so much worse is it is crammed down our throats daily by the media. if you can not see that just mask up and head to the basement.

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What's the survival rate for your demographic?***


Sep 2, 2021, 9:04 AM
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you might want to recheck those numbers

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:15 AM
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obviously they are incorrect

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:21 AM
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Another armchair epidemiologist. Since all this started I’ve known several people who have died from Covid, i’ve never known anyone who died from flu.

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Have you ever known anyone to die from cancer? How about

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Sep 2, 2021, 7:40 AM
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a car wreck from a drunk driver? How about obesity driven heart disease/heart attack? Pick any one of those categories and I've known way more people to have died from those causes than COVID-19. Our society used to recognize the fact that a certain amount of death is acceptable, if not unavoidable, in order to allow individuals to live free and fulfilling lives. But somewhere in the past two years the ruling class has foisted upon us a "if it saves just one life" view to justify any level of intrusion into our lives and curtailment of our freedoms.

I fully recognize that COVID-19 is a bad virus - no doubt about it. But it is NOT an apocalyptic event that can't be survived by the vast majority of people. At some point we have to recognize that our ability to control a virus in the wild is limited and that this virus is not going to vanish anytime soon. We are going to have to live with it like we do many other diseases and return to some semblance of normal in how our government functions (i.e. legislative process vs. executive decrees) and how we live our lives.

And before you ask - yes, I've had COVID, been vaccinated and plan to take a booster when available.

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Wow. CDC should change their web page then.

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:27 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html


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Strong men create easy times.
Easy times create weak men.
Weak men create tough times.


Re: Wow. CDC should change their web page then.

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Sep 2, 2021, 5:35 AM
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If you click the link provided, go to “how we estimate” link and look at why these numbers do not include deaths that are listed on a death certificate as flu. It excludes any death that could be attributed to another underlying case, such as cancer etc. If we applied the same to Covid I wonder what the numbers would be?

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This is an interesting chart


Sep 2, 2021, 8:54 AM
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Also from the CDC. Excess deaths. Period, regardless of cause. Just weekly people who die, period.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm


Now that little blip on the chart for 2018, happens to represent the deadliest year for influenza in the past 2+ decades in the US. So forget covid. Forget flu. A lot more people are dying than normal for some crazy reason. Just so happens to follow the epi curve for covid cases, but that's probably just coincidence.

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Tough times create strong men.
Strong men create easy times.
Easy times create weak men.
Weak men create tough times.


And for some relativity


Sep 2, 2021, 9:02 AM
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We have actually had it less bad than many others

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores?country=PRY~COL~BOL~GBR~USA~RUS~MEX~ECU~ISR

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So you just made up numbers??***


Sep 2, 2021, 9:05 AM
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Sep 2, 2021, 5:30 AM
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You don't get it?
Well, its just my opinion, but the difference between the flu and COVID can be summed up in one word;
POLITICS!

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Well, the CDC numbers clearly show Covid is more deadly

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Sep 2, 2021, 6:35 AM
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than the flu. Just read all of those flu figures each year, the deaths from the flu are much lower than Covid 19

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Sep 2, 2021, 6:42 AM
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Well, the pimp of propaganda doesn't say so. Hacks.

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Sep 2, 2021, 7:23 AM
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The big deal is made from the amount of deaths that have been attributed to COVID 19. We could put our head in the sand and say oh they are inflating the Covid deaths to secure funding or whatever other benefit they may receive. Or we could just look at the death total year by year and decide for ourselves if there was an outlier and forget about what the media says from any side. So when we do that the numbers look like this for the last four years.

2017 - 2,813,503
2018 - 2,839,205
2019 - 2,854,838
2020 - 3,358,814

Now I’m no mathematician but 2020 seems to look a bit different. COVID sucks the way our lives have been affected sucks. I don’t think we should shut down and I don’t think we should limit the number of people who can attend a football game. Because we do have to have quality of life and locked in a house isn’t it. I was in the no mask camp for a long time especially after I got vaccinated because I hated wearing them. But if there is a small chance that wearing my mask will keep that number from going that high again is it too much for me to show a little compassion for my fellow man and wear a mask that I hate when I’m in public? And if you are wondering where I stand politically it would never be with a Democrat and rarely a republican. I’m a man that likes to think for myself. It’s rare but worth it.

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Sep 2, 2021, 7:26 AM
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One more thing… maybe I should have led with this. Can we stop this #### it’s game week!

GO TIGERS!!!

27-20 good guys all day

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Q Anon is really not a reliable source. Might want to


Sep 2, 2021, 7:33 AM
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Look somewhere else (after you perform a cranial rectal removal).

Not to mention you excreted this fecal matter on the rong bored.




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Sep 2, 2021, 7:47 AM
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If you don't get it by now, then quite simply the answer is that you're exercising willful ignorance. And you're part of the problem.

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A good friend of mine from high school passed away on Tues..

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:14 AM
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from COVID.

His spouse passed away the following day. It's unbelievably sad and tragic.

I'm not a medical professional and I certainly don't have all the answers. I also firmly believe that it's your body, so ultimately, it's your choice.

That said, I do know the facts support that nearly all (99%) of COVID-19 deaths in the US now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

Folks...do yourselves and your family a favor and get vaccinated. Your life may depend on it. The benefits far out-weight the risks.




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Sep 2, 2021, 8:21 AM
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when you consider what we know covid does versus what the vaccine does it seems obvious. We took the shot as soon as we could and we will go for booster at first chance.

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I don't think your 99% is correct


Sep 4, 2021, 7:36 AM
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Here is some data from King County in the last 30 days. The only reason I use King County is because they actually report the data in a format that makes sense even though they do not calculate "more likely" chances correctly. That piece of data has been manipulated to support their agenda, but their raw numbers don't have an agenda.

In the last 30 days

31% of positive cases were fully vaccinated people.
13% of hospitalized people were fully vaccinated.
28% of covid deaths were fully vaccinated.

Now King County has a vaccination rate of about 70% so that should be taken into consideration.


https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination-outcomes.aspx


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Sep 2, 2021, 8:14 AM
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You are incorrect. Each year, approximately 60,000 people die of the flu in the US. COVID killed 600,000 last year.

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:23 AM
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false
350k died in 2020
300k thus far this year

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tigerssp that's false


Sep 2, 2021, 8:28 AM
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That's just not true, so please stop posting misinformation.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html


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he was pointing out that covid numbers are reported


Sep 4, 2021, 5:30 AM
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cumulative whereas all others are reported by year

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Sep 3, 2021, 6:35 PM
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So, even if you are correct, that is 6 times more from COVID. So, what is your point?

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COVID-19 Is 10 Times More Deadly

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:24 AM
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COVID-19 is something like 10 times more likely to kill you than the flu. With the new Delta variant it's also much more transmissible.

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:26 AM
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the media tell you that or the government.

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:30 AM
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"the media tell you that or the government."

Did some Facebook repost tell you your misinformation?

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Sep 2, 2021, 10:08 AM
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YOU BOYS GO AHEAD AND MASK UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR PRESIDENT. THAT IS WHENER HE MAY BE AWAKE AND COHERANT.

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That's okay. I'll listen to my doctors and friends that

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Sep 2, 2021, 2:08 PM
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are working their ##### off daily treating people with COVID in the hospitals

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Sep 3, 2021, 6:36 PM
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With that spelling, I sure hope you did not go to Clemson.

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Sep 2, 2021, 8:37 AM
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DISAPPOINTED DE! WHY NOT ALL CAPS AS USUAL! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU"RE THIS WRONG?

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They must not have taught counting at Clemson


Sep 2, 2021, 8:44 AM
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when you went

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we? you were around when the flu came into existence?


Sep 2, 2021, 8:48 AM
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I'd certainly be interested to hear your first hand perspective of how it was handled.

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"It's Baltimore, Gentlemen; the Gods will not save you."


It's 35,000 - not 350,000 ***


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